As much as I hate to say it the only way to remove gill sellers from that game is to get people to stop buying it. As long as there is a demand someone will find a way around whatever SE does and will find a way to make gill fast and turn it into real world dollars.

Funny note I saw a GS'er war in LoO all camping Lord. 3 - 4 LS's all GS'ing LS's all trying to steal claim, lag each other out, and MPK people. So remeber there is no honor amongst thieves and as long as someone wants to take the easy way out and buy currency there will be someone there to sell it to them.

Best solution to this problem is to acknolodge that some people do buy gill and will continue to do so. So here's what you do, SE opens a currency purchasing program, allot X Gill per server and a max monthly order per user. This way SE can control how much artifical gill is actually introduced and how much a user can purchase. If every user had the option to buy 1M gill a month from SE for a premium price of $15.00 they can go after the others and shut them down. I mean if they really wanted to eliminate RMT why havent they sent a cease order to IGE and the other Major Gill selling sites. I mean you cant kill the mom and pop shops they can move fast but who here doesnt know IGE sells gill. If SE really wanted to stop it they should go after the provider. If the gill sellers have no one to sell to, they cant make money. If there is no one to sell to there is no one to buy from either.

So for those who want to give me stupid *** comments like does IGE pay you per word etc you can **** off. I dont care about your stupid comments. I will however hold conversations with users who have something intelligent to add.

IGE doesn't pay by the comma apparently...

I'm sorry, since when did SE actually provide customer service?

I'd call it a customer disservice. Their cust reps are pathetic in every way. From GMs to technical assistance they're all totally clueless, useless and never beleive a word the user says.

So what you're saying is introduce a Final Fantasy 8 SEE-D type system?

In all honesty, that seems like it could work. Introduce a new "Salary" system for FFXI in which actions you do that benefit your home nation, such as Missions, Garrison, maybe even introduce NMs with bountys placed on them, would earn you an "Envoy Rank", and each rank would get X ammount of gil per Earth Week. Let's say Rank one gives you 10k a week, and rank 20 the max giving you 5m per week. Just an idea.

Having read these postings, I can't help but add my two cents. If anyone else disagrees with me, they are entitled to their opinion.

First I must say that SE shouldn't force people to have a windowed game or not. This should be a personal choice up to the user. Personally I find the fact that I cannot talk to anyone on instant messenger, look at any email, or do anything else at all while play FF11 to be a tab bit annoying; especially when waiting several hours for a party invite. However this can be avoided if a person owns a second computer like a laptop.

Secondly it's not only the fact that I cannot do anything else while sometimes endlessly waiting for hours on end for a pt invite. It's the fact the game crashes so freaking easily. For example I can crash the game "loose full screen mode" by simply hitting alt + tab or by hitting alt + escape. This has become especially annoying when using alt macros, and leveling my NPC. "Well I never do that!” you might say to yourself. Well image this, you summon your npc and you are a mage. You have finished about three battles, and you have about 30 to 45 minutes before your npc calls it a day. You then gear up for the next fight, and want to pull a mob by using your alt + 1 macro which is fire 2 or some kind of attack spell. You then with think oh I'm targeting the wrong mob, I want that one slightly to the right. So you hit tab. Poof your 30 to 45 minutes has just gone out the window because you accidentally held down alt and hit tab at the same time. You now have to wait another 20 hours before you can summon your npc again. Well maybe you decide to call a GM to see if you can have your timer reset if you just explain what happened. HA! I tried that one time. Basically I was told in a nutshell many things can make the game crash, and that I had to wait another 20 hours before I can use my NPC again. Now it could have been the way I worded my request to the GM, but mostly likely everyone has to wait the 20 hours regardless of what happened. Using a windower would prevent this because instead of making the program crash and pop up an error message about how you just lost full screen mode, it would just continue on to the next program if you had any other open besides for FF11. Having been a student in a programming class myself, I must add I would have received a failing grade if I had a program that crashed as easily as FF11 does when I hit alt + tab.

Third I must say that just about every other game/software out in the computer world, that I have seen lets you do other things besides for use only their specific product while using your computer. To name a few of them; World of Warcraft, Silk Road, Guild Wars, Microsoft Office, Text Pad, Mozilla Firefox, Altris, Novell's Console One, ect. The point is that the programmers of these programs realize that computers are typically used for multiple purposes and don’t land lock you into just using their specific product while you want/need to use it. A windowed version of FFXI would allow users who are waiting for a NM to pop, waiting for a pt, ect; to talk with their friends, look at email, look up quest information, or do some internet research to name a few possible things.

Finally having used the windower before I learning that it was actually against the rules of the game to play with; I must say the people who made it had several good ideas. For example the ability for a player to see the party's amount of tp was very useful. Apparently there was several plug-ins which included being able to see the amount of xp an hour got, and how many things of the types of enemies that you were fighting you had to kill before you gained your next leveled. I never used any of the additional plug ins, only read up on them.

So what is the point that I'm trying to get past in a nutshell? Basically I think if at all possibly, SquareEnix should make a windower and give users the option to use a windowed version of the game or use the default program they already have; instead of forcing some of the users to violate the rules and run the risk of running third party software. Thanks to everyone who has read my long winded remarks, and if you have anything you would like to comment on please feel free to leave a post. Also as a side not my grammar and spelling are not the best, so please bear with them. After all I’m not perfect only human :).

Listen to yourself, you don't even make the slightest bit of sense. You need to plan things out ahead of time. Take it from me, when I was doing the Teleport-Vahzl quest in Fei'Yin I knew I didn't have a map for any of the areas except W.Ronfaure to get there. I also didn't have the slightest bit of info about the quest. Know what I did? I looked it up before I actually got involved in the quest.

Got on here, went to Quests & Missions, looked up By Realm, N.San d'Oria look there it is! ^_^ Now, lets see what areas will be involved? Wow Three whole areas that I have to traverse through. Never got the maps in game, let me print these off. Tada! insta maps. Now let me see what drops the Chest Key...you get the idea. Learn to plan things ahead, that way you at least have some knowledge of what to do. Besides logging out and back in ain't a big deal.

I hate it when people whine about having something that gives them an "edge" so to speak when it comes to getting info that you can look up in a strategy guide, a website, or friends. Stop being such a baby about it. This will help lower the amount of corrupt players in the game, and I'm glad they are cracking down on windowers and people who used warp and speed hacks. I've played the game for 2 years, almost three now as it fastly approaches FFXI's 3rd Anniversery. Honestly you need to put others before yourself. If you use a windower then you are gonna be banned too eventually, and look you just wasted money after you paid. Besides if they crack down on windowers look you'll see more chances to camp the NM's that gil sellers sit on constantly.

Thanks SE for cracking down on those who cheat at MMO's and cause the rest of us to have a harder time and less enjoyable experience.