Forum Settings
       
Reply To Thread

Omnibus Politics Thread: Campaign 2016 EditionFollow

#1177 Jul 29 2016 at 10:07 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
****
6,445 posts
You'd think by now we'd be voting for government officials the same way we vote for our favorite singers on American Idol or whatever it is people are watching these days.
____________________________
Galkaman wrote:
Kuwoobie will die crushed under the burden of his mediocrity.

#1178 Jul 30 2016 at 12:44 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
We'd probably want to wait for a week without another Russian hacking report before making the push for online voting.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#1179 Jul 30 2016 at 3:50 AM Rating: Good
Soulless Internet Tiger
******
35,381 posts
Republicans would never allow it. Too many angry old white dudes can't use the internet.
____________________________
Donate. One day it could be your family.


An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo

#1180 Aug 01 2016 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
******
49,900 posts
I'm not old. Get off my lawn. Smiley: mad
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#1181 Aug 01 2016 at 9:37 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Trump sure knows how to take a terrible story and stretch it for a week...
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#1182 Aug 01 2016 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
******
49,900 posts
Which story?
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#1183 Aug 01 2016 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
******
29,394 posts
#1184 Aug 01 2016 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
Encyclopedia
******
35,010 posts
Friar Bijou wrote:
Joke or not, "deliberately ridiculous extremes" is usually not a behavioUr/style one wants in a candidate for President of these United States, amirite?


When the other side is being deliberately ridiculous in their accusations, then yeah, I think that mocking them by taking it to an even more ridiculous extreme is not only funny, but appropriate. It was funny watching all those media types taking what was obviously a joke and reporting on it as though it was serious. And I'm sure that in their own echo chamber they thought that was a great way to go to diffuse things, but out in the real world, it just made them (and all the Democrats who jumped on it), look like a big old band of idiots.

Say what you will of Trump, but he's actually doing a good job turning the usual media narrative on its head. Usually, it's the Dems who manage to find ways to mock conservatives for taking things too seriously and looking like they "just don't get it". This time, it's the other way around. I did love the spin on this this weekend though. The prevailing theme seemed to be that this somehow made the Dems look like they were stronger on national defense or something. Which, again, may work inside their own echo chamber, but I don't think is survives much past that point.
____________________________
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
#1185 Aug 01 2016 at 4:48 PM Rating: Good
Official Shrubbery Waterer
*****
14,580 posts
The 538pocolypse has passed, and the Way Too Early But Whatever Here's A Predicted Outcome now has Clinton back in the "lead". To whomever was holding them, please release Nate Silver's loved ones.
____________________________
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.

#1186 Aug 01 2016 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
Encyclopedia
******
35,010 posts
Jophiel wrote:
By pretty much any measure, DNC was a better built event. Better speakers, better production, speeches praised by both ends of the spectrum, better message. No idea yet if it'll matter but it was four nights worth watching.


Was anyone doubting that the Dems would make up for their lack of resonating message with a really really nice facade? Kinda what I've been talking about for the last week. Dazzle people with pretty pictures, emotion laden rhetoric, and big name celebrities, and hope no one notices that your "change candidate" looks an awful lot like the status quo and still has no answers for the current crop of problems both domestic and abroad.

Biggest job creation project since WW2? Really? That's her big selling point? So we're back to great depression era methods now? Way to sell the whole "things are going great!" claim there guys!
____________________________
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
#1187 Aug 01 2016 at 5:11 PM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
No, no one was doubting the Dems would put on a good convention. The surprise was on how shabby the GOP convention looked in comparison after Trump's million claims of how great it would be and its star power. I mean, the guy should at least know how to run a television show, right?
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#1188 Aug 01 2016 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
***
3,462 posts
It was YUGE
____________________________
Dandruffshampoo wrote:
Curses, beaten by Professor stupidopo-opo.
Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Stupidmonkey is more organized than a bag of raccoons.
#1189 Aug 01 2016 at 5:55 PM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Demea wrote:
The 538pocolypse has passed, and the Way Too Early But Whatever Here's A Predicted Outcome now has Clinton back in the "lead". To whomever was holding them, please release Nate Silver's loved ones.
Not sure what the 538 angle is here; multiple polls taken Friday-Sun (post convention) are giving Clinton a sizable bump. Silver just crunches them.

Probably worth waiting a week or so and seeing where they are then, of course.


Edited, Aug 1st 2016 6:56pm by Jophiel
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#1190 Aug 01 2016 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
***
1,264 posts
Trump signs a pledge to crack down on internet ****. If there was ever a reason not to vote him, this is it.
____________________________
Your soul was made of fists.

Jar the Sam
#1191 Aug 01 2016 at 7:10 PM Rating: Decent
Encyclopedia
******
35,010 posts
Jophiel wrote:
No, no one was doubting the Dems would put on a good convention. The surprise was on how shabby the GOP convention looked in comparison after Trump's million claims of how great it would be and its star power. I mean, the guy should at least know how to run a television show, right?


I'm not sure how you're defining "shabby" here. I get that this may be the perception that gets pushed around in liberal circles, and perhaps even in the political-media, but for the average person at home? They see a stage, with a podium, and a screen, and maybe some decorations on it, and a person giving a speech. Not much else goes on during prime time coverage, so unless you're literally arguing that the stage was shabby or something, I'm not seeing it.

The behind the scenes stuff only matters to those who are physically there, or those actively following the news coverage on 24 hour news channels. So "shabby" doesn't really have any impact on the people who matter (mostly voters who only tune in for the major TV covered events). The biggest difference IMO was the clear effort by the DNC to put as much "star power" as possible on the stage. Which looked great, and certainly wowed people. But it also does kinda step right into the narrative that Clinton is all about perception, but not reality. Why put on such a show unless you are worried that people might not think so well of you if the spotlight is just on you.

That was another interesting takeaway IMO. The RNC was pretty much about Trump and just Trump. And while the liberals made a big deal about the whole "no prominent folks in the GOP want to be there" bit, it also meant that the audience at home saw Trump. The DNC was about everyone *except* Hillary Clinton. In an odd way, it also may have hurt her (although it looks like she got a modest bounce, so maybe not), in that she basically had to follow a whole list of *really* good speakers. She looked kinda ho-hum after the previous two nights where the main attraction was Bill Clinton and Obama, both incredibly good speakers. She did "ok", but not great, and again, following those two, it made her look kinda like the third string choice.

Which, I suppose, is why they're going with a "make Trump look bad", rather than a "make Clinton look good" approach. Probably not a bad choice either. I'm just not sure that it will hold up for 100 days.
____________________________
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
#1192 Aug 01 2016 at 7:28 PM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Wow, so that's what desperate spinning looks like Smiley: laugh

Rousing success. In fact, it's the first convention Gallup has ever polled where more people said they were less likely to vote for the candidate as a result.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#1193 Aug 01 2016 at 7:30 PM Rating: Default
The All Knowing
Avatar
*****
10,152 posts
Obvious trolling. No one can be that devoted. Lifelong GOP candidates are publicly shunning Trump.
#1194 Aug 01 2016 at 7:56 PM Rating: Good
Official Shrubbery Waterer
*****
14,580 posts
Jophiel wrote:
Demea wrote:
The 538pocolypse has passed, and the Way Too Early But Whatever Here's A Predicted Outcome now has Clinton back in the "lead". To whomever was holding them, please release Nate Silver's loved ones.
Not sure what the 538 angle is here; multiple polls taken Friday-Sun (post convention) are giving Clinton a sizable bump. Silver just crunches them.

The 538 election predictor had Trump as the favorite right after the RNC concluded, and liberal sites were modestly alarmed.
____________________________
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.

#1195 Aug 01 2016 at 8:06 PM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Well, they wouldn't be Salon if they weren't in a liberal clickbait panic about something. I think most brilliantly intelligent people understood that dithering about polls between conventions was pretty dumb.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#1196 Aug 01 2016 at 8:31 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
*****
13,230 posts
Yep, we'll see where it sits in a few weeks.
____________________________
Just as Planned.
#1197 Aug 02 2016 at 7:04 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Almalieque wrote:
Obvious trolling. No one can be that devoted. Lifelong GOP candidates are publicly shunning Trump.

All part of the plan. See, Trump bragging about how amazing his convention would be and then presenting Newt Gingrich, Chachi and a soap opera actress turned avocado farmer was all a cunning plan to show how much America loves Trump by putting him and every member of his extended family on stage to fill time. Clinton fell right into his trap by having actual presidents and celebrities and people you've heard of speaking.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#1198 Aug 02 2016 at 7:37 AM Rating: Good
******
49,900 posts
gbaji wrote:
Which, I suppose, is why they're going with a "make Trump look bad", rather than a "make Clinton look good" approach.
Yes, it's the liberals making Trump look bad. Not, you know, Trump himself.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#1199 Aug 02 2016 at 8:01 AM Rating: Default
The All Knowing
Avatar
*****
10,152 posts
Gbaji wrote:
putting him and every member of his extended family on stage to fill time.
Did you see the meme with Trump and his family asking what if that were Sen. Obama on stage with his children from three different wives? The double standard is real.

There's a video out there with one of President Obama's daughters dancing in a two piece. Normal red meat, but kind of hard to say anything when you have nude/l3sbian pictures of the potential first wife hitting front covers.
#1200 Aug 02 2016 at 8:27 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Teenage Girl Dances at Lollapalooza: Film at Eleven
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#1201 Aug 02 2016 at 10:52 AM Rating: Good
******
49,900 posts
Children dancing? Well, no wonder Trump insists the world is ending.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 61 All times are in CST
someproteinguy, Anonymous Guests (60)