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Heh. Repeating yourself doesn't add anything to the discussion but you insist on repeating your opinion and forcing everyone else to repeat facts.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2016 2:40pm by lolgaxe

No, Gbaji already said that if Trump wins, he's going to support Clinton. I'm looking forward to it.

There's a difference between repeating an argument and repeating a claim or fact, without bothering to make an argument yourself.

It's the difference between saying "X is true because of <argument in support of X being true>", and "X is true". I may repeat the first because maybe someone didn't understand the argument the first time. Perhaps I'll reword the argument slightly to help them understand, or approach it from a different angle. All of which does add to the discussion. But if all someone does is repeat the same thing over and over without adding anything, or changing their language in an attempt to help the other person understand, then they aren't adding anything.

But great job not grasping the basics of conversation.

Try linking him to a book review next time. Or, better yet, a book report.

um, surely you can see from the way it ended out that that was a total burn

That's funny given how often you "just happened" to come across some article on a conservative website that you need to share with the class.

Are you asking if people can lie?

I hope the brain injury you sustained heals soon.

Just because you can't remember doesn't mean the rest of us don't.

As adorable as it is that you're trying to convince yourself you don't start at the conclusion and repeat your rationalizations for it, just changing the words but saying the exact same thing doesn't actually mean you added anything, nor made a new argument. It just means you know a bunch of words. It's debatable if you know what those words mean half the time, but by golly you know they exist. You do seem to be quite amazed at how people just don't accept your opinions as gospel truths, regardless of how often you repeat them. Quite strange no one just agrees with your erroneous opinions.

It's usually not that people have failed to grasp it the first time, it's that it is usually so asinine that we can easily dismiss it. Which is one of the reasons it is so annoying/amusing when you come in and reiterate the same asinine arguments.

You and I have very different ideas of what dismissing an argument actually entails. Hint: It doesn't mean saying "you're wrong" over and over. When I present an argument, and someone says "you''re wrong", and I ask them why they think that, and all they can do is spin in circles repeating their assumption, without once actually addressing my argument, it's not wrong for me to conclude that they either did not understand the argument itself or they don't understand the concept of an argument at all (which for some on this forum, I suspect may be true).




At least I present arguments. Most people here just repeat conclusions and think it's the same thing with the same weight. I'll repeat the argument until someone actually addresses and responds to it with an actual counter argument. Very very rarely does that happen around here though.

I don't pick sides first. I start with principles. Then I apply logical processes to those principles to derive a position on any given issue. I'm fully capable of providing a detailed step by step mental process by which I do this. Can you?

I'm serious here. Pick any issue you want and I'll do this for you. At no point will my reasoning include someone else telling me what my position should be, or me arguing that said position aligns with some group that I think is "good" or whatever. I'm reasonably certain that most people on this forum are incapable of doing the same (or will fall back on broad platitudes like "it's the right thing!", but when asked "why?" can't give an answer better than "because!", usually followed up with insults at anyone who doesn't agree with them).

So yeah. I'm going to repeat that. Because it's true. Again, I get that this is hard for people who have acquired all their positions based on picking a side that they like, and thus assume that everyone else does the same, but that's your own failing, not mine.

Edited, Mar 1st 2016 6:40pm by gbaji

Repeat that one a few more times. You have unique and thought-provoking views of issues. Sure, I can lie.