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#77 Jul 07 2014 at 10:20 PM Rating: Good
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Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
I would just like to point out, once again, that I pointed it out first Smiley: lol


He either has me on ignore, or my post doesn't fit his world view, so therefore doesn't exist.

Anyway, Here is a link to the last discussion about this, where Gbaji said that Smash brought it up within the last couple months:


http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4&mid=1377029244145411829#38

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"End out" is not correct.


Say's who? I've used the two phrases interchangeably my entire life and until a couple months ago when Smash suddenly started making a big deal out of it, no one has *ever* commented on it.



I commented on it in August of 2013: Linkie


Where I linked that I had brought it up almost a year ago

So, yeah, people had commented on it. Despite your claim to the opposite.
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#78 Jul 08 2014 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
So, yeah, people had commented on it.
His writing quality comes up regularly. His argument was that "people on other sites praise his writing" so he didn't know what us commoners meant.
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So, yeah, people had commented on it.
His writing quality comes up regularly. His argument was that "people on other sites praise his writing" so he didn't know what us commoners meant.
Classic quantity vs quality trade off, market forces are at work everywhere.
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#80 Jul 08 2014 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I wasted several minutes of my life doing various searches for "end out" on the interwebz. Other than "archaic at best" it doesn't show up.

Take from that what you will.


It means it's not a grammatical error. If it were, it would be listed on all those sites which list grammatical mistakes people make. As I pointed out the last time this subject came up, it's just two words acting as a phrase. There is an infinite number of combinations of words in the English language we can put together to make phrases. There is no magical list of "correct phrases". It's bizarre to think there should be.
No, tardslap; it only shows up as "wrong".


Huh? You just said that other than "archaic at best", it doesn't show up. Archaic doesn't mean "wrong".


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There's some serious irony going on here. Or projection. Or both.
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#81 Jul 08 2014 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
Where I linked that I had brought it up almost a year ago

So, yeah, people had commented on it. Despite your claim to the opposite.


Do you want a prize or something? What the hell difference does this make? None, right? So instead of just one person making a big deal out of nothing, we have two people doing it. Oh noes! Whatever could it mean? Um... Nothing.

You do understand that attacking someone's grammar in an online discussion is generally considered an admission that you've lost the argument, right? I normally ignore stuff like this (like I presumably ignored your initial comment) because unless that becomes the entirety of someone's argument (like when Smash does it) it doesn't really matter. I only respond when Smash does it because Smash has a long and consistent history of utterly ignoring anything remotely resembling an argument and zeroing in on personal attacks, attacks on grammar, spelling, etc. He's more or less mastered the post form of "I'm right because you misspelled that word over there".

Silly, but true. When you do it? I don't care because you normally make valid points to respond to, so I choose to respond to those points. You have to realize that I get so much BS tossed in my direction that I have to filter out about 90% of the responses people make in order to at least attempt to remain on topic and relevant to the discussion. And posts about grammar and spelling fall right at the bottom of that filter.
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#82 Jul 08 2014 at 5:16 PM Rating: Good
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It was your use of the phrase

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no one has *ever* commented on it.


That made me comment on it. If you use the words "no one has ever", and it is proven wrong, I just think you should know.

ETA superlative was not the word I was looking for, I don't think.

Edited, Jul 8th 2014 4:19pm by stupidmonkey
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#83 Jul 08 2014 at 7:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
It was your use of the phrase

Gbaji wrote:
no one has *ever* commented on it.


That made me comment on it. If you use the words "no one has ever", and it is proven wrong, I just think you should know.


Ok. So instead of me saying "I've used the two phrases interchangeably my entire life and until a couple months ago when Smash suddenly started making a big deal out of it, no one has *ever* commented on it", we'll replace "a couple months ago" with "less than a year ago", and Smash with stupidmonkey. The point I was making remains unchanged. I've used this particular verb phrase my entire life, and until relatively recently no one has suggested to me that it was incorrect to do so.

I think that's less "proven wrong" as "mistaken about a minor detail". In any case, it's a silly thing to argue about. Not that that ever stops us.Smiley: clown
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"I shot gbaji with a speargun right in the gernbogatorish, and he's had **** bleeding ever since."

No one else uses "gernbogatorish" as a word for "***" but (heh) we all know what I meant, right?

Thus it is with you and "end out".







Heh. I did it again
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#85 Jul 09 2014 at 7:32 AM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
I only respond when Smash does it because Smash has a long and consistent history of utterly ignoring anything remotely resembling an argument and zeroing in on personal attacks, attacks on grammar, spelling, etc..
You're implying what you present remotely resembles an argument.
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#86 Jul 09 2014 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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Have some more dead baby shenanigans.
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#87 Jul 09 2014 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
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Friar Bijou wrote:
"I shot gbaji with a speargun right in the gernbogatorish, and he's had **** bleeding ever since."

No one else uses "gernbogatorish" as a word for "***" but (heh) we all know what I meant, right?

Thus it is with you and "end out".

Heh. I did it again
Did what again?

I don't think your example is fitting. Don't get me wrong, I am defending gbajis use of a phrase here.

Generally speaking, 'end out' and 'end up' generally mean the same thing, and the general population will generally understand that.

That word you made up for '***' is not generally recognized by the general population as generally meaning what you say it means.

You guys are really making yourselves look like a bunch of gernbogatorish by continuing to harp on this.

There are plenty of choice gbaji tidbits lying around here to mock, I fail to understand this word-meaning witch hunt. Smiley: disappointed
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#88 Jul 09 2014 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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Have some more dead baby shenanigans.

I'm with DC Entertainment on this one. You let one kid's statue have the Superman logo on, you gotta let everyone.

Anyway, the kid wasn't a man, so it's not even technically correct.

I think the "J" for his name is more suitable.
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#89 Jul 09 2014 at 8:37 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
I fail to understand this word-meaning witch hunt.
Not much to understand. Witch tied himself to a stake, set up a circle of torches, and is basking in the attention he craves.
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I understand DC's position in a "that sucks to have to make that call but okay" sort of way. Trademark protection and all that. I wouldn't have wanted to be the one to make the call though.

Bleah on stories of bad things happening to little kids. I usually just avoid those stories. Project too much onto them with feelings for my own little guy (no doubt only because they're both white) and don't really think they better me in any way to hear them.
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I fail to understand this word-meaning witch hunt.
Not much to understand. Witch tied himself to a stake, set up a circle of torches, and is basking in the attention he craves.

Every time someone types 'end out', another torch gets lit and added to the circle.
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Generally speaking, 'end out' and 'end up' generally mean the same thing, and the general population will generally understand that.


General Population! /salute

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#93 Jul 09 2014 at 7:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I think that's less "proven wrong" as "mistaken about a minor detail". In any case, it's a silly thing to argue about.

It's silly that ever used the phrase. That you continue to use it after being proven wrong (quotes ABSOLUTELY not required) is less silly. It's a meaningful insight into how petty and weak you are at the core of your being.

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You guys are really making yourselves look like a bunch of gernbogatorish by continuing to harp on this.


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Friar Bijou wrote:
"I shot gbaji with a speargun right in the gernbogatorish, and he's had **** bleeding ever since."

No one else uses "gernbogatorish" as a word for "***" but (heh) we all know what I meant, right?

Thus it is with you and "end out".


Except that both "end" and "out" are actual words with meanings that are clear in the context in which the phrase is used. Just because you may have never heard or read the exact phrase "plaid pants wearing giraffes", doesn't make it grammatically incorrect. It is, at worst, unfamiliar. And if you can noodle out what the author means, then its unfamiliarity isn't a problem.

It's just strange to me that some of you feel like you have to make such a huge issue out of this. Whatever.
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#96 Jul 10 2014 at 7:29 AM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
It's just strange to me that some of you feel like you have to make such a huge issue out of this.
It's just bizarre that you incited this conversation in the first place. Wait, no not bizarre. Transparent. It's absolutely transparent that you incited this conversation in the first place.
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#97 Jul 10 2014 at 7:34 AM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:

It's just strange to me that some of you feel like you have to make such a huge issue out of this. Whatever.

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It's just strange to me that some of you feel like you have to make such a huge issue out of this.
It's just bizarre that you incited this conversation in the first place. Wait, no not bizarre. Transparent. It's absolutely transparent that you incited this conversation in the first place.
It's making me crazy...

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#98 Jul 10 2014 at 7:43 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the earworm. Smiley: bah
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#99 Jul 15 2014 at 7:40 AM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
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"I shot gbaji with a speargun right in the gernbogatorish, and he's had **** bleeding ever since."

No one else uses "gernbogatorish" as a word for "***" but (heh) we all know what I meant, right?

Thus it is with you and "end out".


Except that both "end" and "out" are actual words with meanings that are clear in the context in which the phrase is used. Just because you may have never heard or read the exact phrase "plaid pants wearing giraffes", doesn't make it grammatically incorrect. It is, at worst, unfamiliar. And if you can noodle out what the author means, then its unfamiliarity isn't a problem.

It's just strange to me that some of you feel like you have to make such a huge issue out of this. Whatever.


Using bizarre neologisms conveys very little useful information, except in cases where it is well constructed enough to convey a lot more information.

I don't think either example you presented does that. Something like "The bulimic elephant in the room" might though.
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So "throw out" and "throw up" mean the same thing, then. "Pass out" and "pass up"? Same thing. ''

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#101 Jul 15 2014 at 9:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yes. In the same way you'd put up and put out with your family.
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