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#102 Dec 20 2013 at 5:34 PM Rating: Default
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I'm starting to think this topic is above your pay grade.


I am working my way up^^;
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#103 Dec 20 2013 at 5:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Imma hafta devote some thinking to this, as I'm confused as to how an all black night club is bad, but an all black college is cool. Selective discrimination already exists.


A white student cannot be denied entry into a black college on the basis of race. Not if the school is getting Federal money, at any rate.

I believe the ruling has usually been that a business IS public, in that its reason for being is to provide goods and services for money to anyone who can pay (obviously as long as that person is not disrupting the business, blah blah blah).

If you have an exclusive private club where you hand pick your clientele, that's different. Not really, but you could offer up all sorts of "she was wearing the wrong shoes for this time of year" type excuses to hide your essential craniorectivism.
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#104 Dec 20 2013 at 6:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you have an exclusive private club where you hand pick your clientele, that's different. Not really, but you could offer up all sorts of "she was wearing the wrong shoes for this time of year" type excuses to hide your essential craniorectivism.


Which is where the judge's point about the baker telling them "I don't make GAY wedding cakes" instead of waiting to hear what they wanted on it, then turning them down on religious grounds.

It may seem a little silly, or a loop hole, but there it is. If the men in question simply wanted a plain ol' 3 tiered wedding cake with nothing on it, he'd have to make it (unless he suddenly had a lot of back orders). But saying, "I don't do GAY" is unlawful discrimination.
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Samira wrote:
Coalheart wrote:
Imma hafta devote some thinking to this, as I'm confused as to how an all black night club is bad, but an all black college is cool. Selective discrimination already exists.


A white student cannot be denied entry into a black college on the basis of race. Not if the school is getting Federal money, at any rate.

I believe the ruling has usually been that a business IS public, in that its reason for being is to provide goods and services for money to anyone who can pay (obviously as long as that person is not disrupting the business, blah blah blah).

If you have an exclusive private club where you hand pick your clientele, that's different. Not really, but you could offer up all sorts of "she was wearing the wrong shoes for this time of year" type excuses to hide your essential craniorectivism.



That makes sense. I guess I just don't see why they fought so hard to give this guy their money. They forced him to do something he didn't want to and had to pay him for it. What was their actual victory? Not to mention that if I were them, there's no way I would've eaten that cake.
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#106 Dec 20 2013 at 6:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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That makes sense. I guess I just don't see why they fought so hard to give this guy their money. They forced him to do something he didn't want to and had to pay him for it. What was their actual victory? Not to mention that if I were them, there's no way I would've eaten that cake.


Well, that's what I'm unclear about. The ACLU sued the guy "on the couple's behalf." I don't know if that means they called the ACLU, they wanted it, or if the ACLU can just do this without their consent.

I do know that they got their rainbow cake elsewhere.
#107 Dec 20 2013 at 6:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think the ACLU could sue without their consent - they wouldn't have standing to bring the suit, or so I imagine. But that doesn't mean the guys were going cakeless until the suit settled.

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#108 Dec 20 2013 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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CoalHeart wrote:
I wouldn't go into a Jewish deli and DEMAND they serve me a ham sandwich.
I wouldn't go into a Jewish deli and demand they rotate my car's tires and an oil change, either.
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#109 Dec 20 2013 at 6:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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#110 Dec 20 2013 at 7:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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I dunno, but I have a serious urge to visit a Jewish deli now.
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#111 Dec 21 2013 at 4:23 PM Rating: Good
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And a side of whitefish salad, please

ETA: Jewish, just not Kosher Smiley: grin

Edited, Dec 21st 2013 2:24pm by stupidmonkey
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#112 Dec 23 2013 at 3:57 PM Rating: Good
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I saw this on Facebook between a few of my wife's retarded relatives and former coworkers. I never thought it would reach the Asylum.

I just think it's hilarious how all of these people are coming out of the woods to rage about a private network firing a guy for his choice of words-- as if "freedom of speech" somehow trumps the network's freedom to decide what they want to represent them. Why don't we all just put ourselves on Duck Dynasty and voice our opinions about things? Anything else is an obstruction of our freedom I tell you.
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#113angrymnk, Posted: Dec 23 2013 at 5:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It must be interesting feeling all smug surrounded by sea of retards.
#114 Dec 23 2013 at 8:26 PM Rating: Good
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angrymnk wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
I saw this on Facebook between a few of my wife's retarded relatives and former coworkers. I never thought it would reach the Asylum.

I just think it's hilarious how all of these people are coming out of the woods to rage about a private network firing a guy for his choice of words-- as if "freedom of speech" somehow trumps the network's freedom to decide what they want to represent them. Why don't we all just put ourselves on Duck Dynasty and voice our opinions about things? Anything else is an obstruction of our freedom I tell you.


It must be interesting feeling all smug surrounded by sea of retards.


Not surrounded. It sure seems that way sometimes as loud as you people are.
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#115angrymnk, Posted: Dec 23 2013 at 9:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) racist!!!1
#116 Dec 23 2013 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good
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I just think it's hilarious how all of these people are coming out of the woods to rage about a private network firing a guy for his choice of words-- as if "freedom of speech" somehow trumps the network's freedom to decide what they want to represent them


Ultimately, I think its even simpler than that: His ignorant remarks posed a good chance on A&E losing some ad revenue, so they canned him before that could happen.
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#117 Dec 23 2013 at 10:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why don't we all just put ourselves on Duck Dynasty and voice our opinions about things?
A modicum of self respect, that's why.
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#123 Jan 01 2014 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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someproteinguy wrote:
I dunno, but I have a serious urge to visit a Jewish deli now.

Thanks to reviving this thread; now I want a lox and cream cheese bagel.
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