Goblins, Worgens New Playable Races?

Datamining of patch 3.2 has revealed that four new Halloween masks have been added to the game, and they are for male and female goblins and worgens. While this may simply mean Blizzard is trying to spice up the holiday, others users think it means something more. Handclaw over at Scrolls of Lore suggested it means they'll be the new playable races for the expansion, and Boubouille of MMO-Champion stated it with almost certainty. Check out the above images from MMO-Champion and see what you think.

Shojindo started a thread on the topic in our general forum and it's already full of opinions. Our very own fewyn chimed in on the discussion and said both races seemed highly plausible to him. So what do you think? Is Blizzard giving us a hint of things to come, or are they just some new masks?

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Why I Think Gobbies = Horde & Worgen = Alliance
# Jul 21 2009 at 4:31 AM Rating: Decent
If these 2 would be the 2 new playable races, here's why i'm thinking they would end up being Goblin for Horde and Worgen for Alliance:

1) The "Stumpy" Factor: As many in this post have already pointed out, the Alliance already has 2 "stumpy" races as is (The Dwarfs and the Gnomes), so it would make sense for Blizzard to make one for the Horde. The reverse could be said for the reason Worgen would be on Alliance side (the "Animalistic" race argument that others have posted here, of which the Horde already has Taurens, also applies), since in all likeliness this race might be taller then the average human due to their bestial nature.

2) The Goblin/Gnome Rivlary: Though they don't neccesarily hate each other, Gnomes and Goblins have a sort of rivalry going in which each believes their Engineering skills are superior to the others. Which leads to reason #3...

3) Engineering Modifier: The Alliance already currently has a race with a + mod to Engineering (Gnomes), so I don't see Blizz giving em another race with the same mod.

4) The Fantasy Lore Angle: Though Blizzard has given Goblins more of a mercenary aspect (working for the highest bidder), in most traditional fantasy literature and some other MMOs Goblins have typically been an "Evil" race. For example, in the Warhammer universe, they make up one half of the Greenskin race (along with the Orcs). While the same can be said for the Worgens, there is currently lore in the game that would explain the Worgen's presence in the Alliance. Any Alliance person who has done the whole series of quests involving the Scythe of Elune would know that it was a Night Elf who used the Scythe to bring the Worgen into Azeroth during a certain conflict. They fought alongside the Night Elves for awhile during this time. Though she describes them in her journal as being wild in nature, she mentions also that as long as each pack has a leader, they seem to be organized. Later in her journal she describes Worgen being tainted (an allusion to Arugal). So, the explanation Blizzard could use is this may be a tribe of Worgen who remained somewhat civil. As for why the Goblins would join the Horde, they could simply say a certain group of Goblins decided it was more "profitable" to work for the Horde. As others mentioned, Goblins are never seen in most Ally towns, but are commonplace in few Horde ones, which seems to suggest that while the Allies will have dealings with em, they may not completely trust them (most likely due to their mercernary nature).

5) The "Ugly" factor: Let's face it, Goblins are not a particulary attractive race, and most "ugly" races end up on the Horde side. Though Blizz attempted to remedy this with the Draenei, they still came out looking way prettier than any Horde race (save for the Blood Elves). And looking at the Worgen masks, while bestial in appearance, they're definitely more attractive looking then Goblins are. The one downside I see to this could be this could create even more unbalance between the sides, as while some of us wouldn't mind playing Goblins (myself, for one), I see Worgen being the more popular race choice of the two.

As for what this would mean for the existing Goblin towns, they would most likely remain neutral, otherwise the netutral AH's would be gone. These would be goblins who remained loyal to their main credo (whoever pays the most). On the other hand, they could also make both races neutral races. If they did, you would most likely have to pick a side either at the Character Creation screen or through a quest you got at the end of their newbie area.

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Why I Think Gobbies = Horde & Worgen = Alliance
# Jul 21 2009 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
Touché.
Personally..
# Jul 20 2009 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
There are a crapload of races in the world of warcraft that I know I would want to be able to play ingame. I would love to see the nagas and worgen being a playable race. I also like the idea of creating dryads too, but centaurs aren't exactly that male version of dryads. So maybe dryads could be like a class you can play only as a female gender for Night Elves. It would be so sick if they could make a pandaren race for the horde and maybe a neutral faction for murlocs and nagas (are they on the same terms?). Satyrs could be a cool race to create too; like an anti-nightelf race besides the bloodelves. No.. wait. I got it. Add a Nerubian race to the horde... yes.. hahaha i would love to play a crypt lord warrior. ARG TOO MANY AWESOME RACES!!!

Edited, Jul 20th 2009 4:21pm by MKDefiancx
Personally..
# Jul 20 2009 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
Oh and also... I dont see why races have to be limited to the classes that we already have i.e. warrior, hunter, mage, preist, paladin, hunter, rogue, etc... Lets think outside the fricken box or whereever you're in. :D
why Worgen=Alliance?
# Jul 20 2009 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
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I don't necessarily see why the Alliance might automatically get the Worgen as an "animalistic" race, and the Horde get the Goblins as their "first short race".

If you think about it, the Horde have NO short races, while the Alliance have two. If they (Alliance) got the Gnomes, then that would continue an Alliance trend to mixed-height races (short and tall), while the Horde would continue their (seemingly natural) trend to non-human-looking races with the Worgen.

why Worgen=Alliance?
# Jul 20 2009 at 12:14 PM Rating: Default
lol dont you think the humans and night elves are gonna get kinda tired having to look down all the time (or if they're REALLY nice and trying to talk to them at eye level, kneeling all the time XD). I say lets add both of them to the horde faction, and then add two completely new races to the human side.. like.. hell i dunno. Lol alliance sux.
why Worgen=Alliance?
# Jul 20 2009 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, I was just going on the assumption that the Alliance needed more races to "look down on"!
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Worgen as Alliance
# Jul 19 2009 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
Having the worgen as alliance would make sense because they were human before Argul (not sure if that's spelled right) cast some kind of spell that mutated them.
Goblins? Blech!
# Jul 19 2009 at 9:35 AM Rating: Default
Goblins should not be a playable race. People hate gnomes enough as it is...why make a midget race that's even uglier? LOL

But on a more serious note: The worgens do look pretty cool...But I say they make dryads a playable race. Or perhaps centaurs. Or both...Maybe dryads would be the female version of the new race and centaurs would be the male version. I dunno. There's no four legged race out there, I think that'd be interesting. And for roleplayers, it would open up some neat venues.
In WOW
# Jul 19 2009 at 7:46 AM Rating: Decent
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In WOW Goblins have always been neutral, but back in Warcraft 2 Goblins were on the Orcs side there were Goblin Sappers and Goblin Zepplins, the humans had Dwarven Demolition Squad and the Gnomish Flying Machines in thier place. Also, since in WOW the Goblins run the Hordes Zepplins I would think the Goblins would lean towards being on the Horde side. As for the Worgen, I don't know where they would fit in to the Alliance other then maybe hating the Undead because they live in Shadowfang keep (Just a guess at the present world of Warcraft). Tho they would be pretty cool to play as.
Blizzard has said that they plan to put out an expansion a year and that year is up in November. WotLK was Announced at last years Blizzcon so I would think if they are coming out with a new one it would be said at Blizzcon. I've hear rumors that the next expansion will be the Maelstrom (the big swurly thing in the middle of the world map) and the Broken Isles.
If Goblins are a new race I wonder if that will effect the Goblin towns like Gadgetzan and Booty bay, if they will then become owned by what ever faction they go to or remain neutral. Honestly I'd rather have a new race be Nagas or something new. Nagas would fit with the lore more then Worgens if they are doing Maelstrom and the Broken Isles I think. Personally I want the new race to be able to be druids, I play as Horde and want a druid but, I can't really stand the Taurans, thier just not my thing...
Hmm.
# Jul 18 2009 at 8:47 PM Rating: Decent
Could you imagine a Goblin with a wee Gnomish World Enlarger?

Saying that. There already is a midget race for the Alliance.
Personally doubt that these are the races Blizz' plan on introducing just yet, and that the masks are just a herring of some sort, but fingers crossed and who knows.
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# Jul 18 2009 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent
If they do make these two playable races. My guess would be goblins for the horde would be their first short race, and same for alliance worgen would be the first animalistic type of toon. so it will deffentatly be interesting to see what way they go with it.:)
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# Jul 18 2009 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
I guess this too that Goblin is Hordes first small / short race and Worgen is Alliance first beast / animal like race since Horde already have beast / animal like Orcs, Trolls and Taurens.
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# Jul 19 2009 at 10:14 AM Rating: Good
I agree, though I don't believe they're thinking in as general terms as "animal/beast" (which by your definition, pretty much every Horde race save Blood Elves would fall under, though the way you're describing it I think you're thinking more of "monsters" than "beasts")...

I think it's fairly obvious that they'd be going for an even trade: the shortness of Goblins for Horde in direct relation to the Alliance's existing Gnomes, and the distinctly anthro Worgen in direct relation to the only current truly anthro race, the Horde's Tauren.

That's IF these are actually new races, of course, which I am hesitant to guess at either way.

Kinda sucks that if these are the new races, the Alliance will almost certainly get the Worgen (due to reasons stated)... I'd love to try a Worgen, but I'm Horde for life. At least I'll always have the Tauren, because I still love those big cuddly cows to death!
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# Jul 21 2009 at 2:18 AM Rating: Good
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At least I'll always have the Tauren, because I still love those big cuddly cows to death!



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# Jul 18 2009 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
well the new expansion will be coming out soon, WotLK has almost been out for a year and Blizz. said a new expansion every year. If they were to add new races, well I rather see something else than goblins and worgen, just doesn't seem to fit in right, I rather see something more new and original. If they were to make a new hero class I think they should maybe at least make the player have to be a higher level to make one cause so many people got to 55 quit their character and just started something new and didn't know anything that was going on.
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# Jul 18 2009 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Something I think would be neat if they just made a 3rd faction. This faction would hate horde and alliance and of course alliance and horde would hate them just like they hate each other. Only problem would be trying to fit them into BG's though. Guess they could make them so that they do a home city quest and eventually you have to align yourself with either horde or alliance. Make it so that you HAVE to at a certain point pick one or you can't leave the newbie area they start in.
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# Jul 18 2009 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Goblins seem closer to horde then alliance IMO. I mean you don't see too many Goblins running around alliance cities do you? Far as Worgens go though I don't see how they really should be alliance either.

Goblin would be kinda neat to play.
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# Jul 18 2009 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
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In warcraft 2 Goblins made a couple of horde units (like sappers). They have always worked for whoever pays them but I think they're more associated with horde. Worgen always seemed kinda evil so I agree that I can't really see them as alliance either. I had heard speculation quite some time ago that the next expansion could include the goblin homeland which is a large island somewhere between kalimdor and eastern kingdoms.
Pandarans
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I want pandarans!
On Female Worgens
# Jul 18 2009 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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Female Worgens are hot. That's right, I said it. If they turn out to be Alliance, I may just re-roll.

Still, I'm not counting on these races to actually be playable, really, unless you could choose what faction you could be on, since both races seem very neutral.
On Female Worgens
# Jul 18 2009 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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Female Worgens are hot. That's right, I said it. If they turn out to be Alliance, I may just re-roll.

Still, I'm not counting on these races to actually be playable, really, unless you could choose what faction you could be on, since both races seem very neutral.


imo, this is the only way to do it. Goblins are neutral by default to both nations iirc, and always have been. They will work with who ever pays the most.

Worgens are from an entire different world (again, iirc) so they could be "good" or "bad".

Would be fun for a new race. But if they are adding a new race, wouldn't that also mean new content? (starting zones, "main"-ish town. . .)Seems like a lot for an update, unless WotLK is already at it's end and a new x-pack is already being made.
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On Female Worgens
# Jul 19 2009 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Gilneas for the Worgen (since it makes a lot of sense, I think, and it's right near a convieniant 10 - 20 level zone), and probably part of Kezan for the Goblins. Once you reach level 10, you choose a faction, and presto.
On Female Worgens
# Jul 19 2009 at 8:14 AM Rating: Decent
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that sounds pretty right for the start zones I would think. I just looked up Kezan on WOWwiki it's crazy all the stuff they have on it, they have maps of it and everything I didn't even know there was so much on it. I've been wanting them to open up Gilneas for so long haha ever since the game came out and I was just a little Undead. Always loved the lore behind it Humans went in there to escape from the scourge and closed the gate behind them never to be seen or heard from again.... Ive been behind the gate and right now it's just a big empty area. When they do open it I would assume its probably gonna be Worgens and Undead Scourge inside, maybe a few new type of monsters to keep it interesting @; )
Goblins
# Jul 18 2009 at 7:40 AM Rating: Decent
Goblins would be nice to play and a new hero class perhaps on the next expansion.
Goblins
# Jul 20 2009 at 8:45 AM Rating: Decent
I very much like the possibility of these races as being playable. I do hope they go with neutral faction and have you choose (like with aldor/scryer in outland) which faction you wish to join after leaving the starting area. It'd be a cool option that the maps of the goblin area support (ports to a neutral location, one near horde, and one definitely alliance.)
If they add the new races, of course, they'll need at least one extra slot in the character builder finally.
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