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#1 Apr 26 2012 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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Some interesting trailers and behind the scenes looks have come out recently on this. Movie set in the Aliens universe before the Alien movie.

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I love the Happy Birthday David video. Ironically the internet is toting it as a "viral video" but everywhere that hosts it is being shut down by Comcast copyright requests? Isn't the point of a viral video to spread like a virus and bring interest in the movie? Wouldn't shutting down the video sharing sites be... anti-viral?



Michael Fassbender does a good job there. I've only seen him in this and X-men First Class, but I was impressed by both. I especially like when he talks about what makes him sad.

I'm looking forward to this movie. I think I'll actually go see it in the theaters.

There is a latest one I've seen, a behind the scenes one, but the only link I can find is on a celebrity gossip site that contains some racy celebrity stuff that is not appropriate here.

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#2 Apr 26 2012 at 11:16 PM Rating: Good
I rewatched my directors cut of Alien in anticipation over the weekend. Can't wait!
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#3 Apr 27 2012 at 12:26 AM Rating: Good
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TirithRR wrote:
Some interesting trailers and behind the scenes looks have come out recently on this. Movie set in the Aliens universe before the Alien movie.
I didn't realize this was the case. Sounded pretty cool before, but now I have decent hopes that it probably won't suck.
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#4 Apr 27 2012 at 4:22 AM Rating: Good
Not only that, but Ridley Scott is on record as saying this isn't a "true" prequel to Alien, in that the sequel to Prometheus wouldn't actually have to be Alien...

So there will be Easter Eggs for us Alien fans (Nefarious Space Jockies? ((Jockeys?) Androids Crazier than Ash?), but we also might even get another Ridley Scott movie set in this universe!

Edited, Apr 27th 2012 6:23am by Omegavegeta
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#5 Apr 27 2012 at 4:25 AM Rating: Good
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Omegavegeta wrote:
Not only that, but Ridley Scott is on record as saying this isn't a "true" prequel to Alien, in that the sequel to Prometheus wouldn't actually have to be Alien...

So there will be Easter Eggs for us Alien fans (Nefarious Space Jockies? ((Jockeys?)), but we also might even get another Ridley Scott movie set in this universe!


That's what he said, but the more and more I see of the movie from the new trailers, the more it looks like just an Alien movie. Looks to be full of chest poppers and face huggers right now, by the trailers.

Not that that is a bad thing, in my opinion. I don't mind it focusing on Aliens.
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#6 Apr 27 2012 at 6:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Woo, Alien Face Hugger Wingwong Facerape.
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TirithRR wrote:
Omegavegeta wrote:
Not only that, but Ridley Scott is on record as saying this isn't a "true" prequel to Alien, in that the sequel to Prometheus wouldn't actually have to be Alien...

So there will be Easter Eggs for us Alien fans (Nefarious Space Jockies? ((Jockeys?)), but we also might even get another Ridley Scott movie set in this universe!


That's what he said, but the more and more I see of the movie from the new trailers, the more it looks like just an Alien movie. Looks to be full of chest poppers and face huggers right now, by the trailers.

Not that that is a bad thing, in my opinion. I don't mind it focusing on Aliens.
Well, he probably said it so that there's at least a bit of suspense that someone might survive. If Alien was the true sequel to it, it'd be assumed that everyone will die.
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Well, he probably said it so that there's at least a bit of suspense that someone might survive. If Alien was the true sequel to it, it'd be assumed that everyone will die.

In the last scene, a facehugger escapes onto Earth, scampers across the street and is unknowingly run over by a young Ellen Ripley on her Big Wheel.
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I'm imagining her with a big cigar and an eye patch.
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Now I'm imagining her as Snake Plissken on a Big Wheel.

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#11 Apr 28 2012 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
I've know about this movie for a bit now. Can't wait to see it.
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#12 Apr 28 2012 at 10:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Now I'm imagining her as Snake Plissken on a Big Wheel.

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#13 Jun 08 2012 at 8:42 AM Rating: Good
I liked it. It's certainly not genre defining, like Alien, or as enjoyable an action flick as Aliens, but when it was a horror movie it was quite enjoyable. Unfortunately, the bad casting & makeup of Guy Pierce is a bit of a distraction & whatever it tries to do philosophically doesn't work at all, but when its a creepy horror movie it is quite enjoyable.

Fassbender is awesome as the Android, Naomi Rapace is actually more hardcore than Ripley (If Ripley had Rapace's advantage, we wouldn't have suffered through Alien Resurrection. @#%^ you Whedon, Avengers still didn't make up for that), & Idris Elba is Idris Elba & it works. No one else, besides the creatures, is memorable. Oh, & Charlize Theron is a **** but that never really matters.

Rapace & Fassbender, combined with the horror, & some ALien Easter eggs make for a good time - but it doesn't answer the question it asks at the beginning (Sequel maybe?), unfortunately. Don't expect to get laid after it though. Glad my Fiance is actually too scared to see a movie for once. (She jumped at the opening of the last James Bond movie when the theme song started playing. It was hilarious).

Also, it might just be nostalgia, but does anyone else find puppets covered in slime as opposed to CGI creepier? I know everyone wants CGI (especially since the 3D craze), but would it hurt to use more practical effects? If you haven't seen this, when you do, you might notice the creepiest scene? Practical effects.

Edited, Jun 8th 2012 10:47am by Omegavegeta
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#14 Jun 08 2012 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
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Omegavegeta wrote:
Also, it might just be nostalgia, but does anyone else find puppets covered in slime as opposed to CGI creepier?
Kind of. I can't think of any recent creature features that have had a creepier "monster" than the Jigsaw doll from Saw, but I'm not sure that actually fits with what you're talking about.
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Omegavegeta wrote:
Also, it might just be nostalgia, but does anyone else find puppets covered in slime as opposed to CGI creepier?
Kind of. I can't think of any recent creature features that have had a creepier "monster" than the Jigsaw doll from Saw, but I'm not sure that actually fits with what you're talking about.


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#16 Jun 08 2012 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
Cabin in the Woods had a nice blend, I thought.
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#17 Jun 08 2012 at 9:25 PM Rating: Good
I just got back from seeing it. I enjoyed it.

I guess so many did not know what the movie was "about", because the ending had a lady behind me trippen ballz and basically ruined the "feel" it had going on. And then there was the 1 nerd in a herd of them that said "see told you" at the end to his posse.

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I don't remember a question? Other than a "where did we come from" kind of vibe?
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
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I don't remember a question? Other than a "where did we come from" kind of vibe?


The question was: If you are in space, can anyone hear you scream?
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#19 Jun 08 2012 at 9:44 PM Rating: Good
Yes. If the mic is turned on.
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
Yes. If the mic is turned on.
Duh.


WRONG! It's like Hitchhiker's Guide, we already knew the answer and now we just needed the question.

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In space, no one can hear you scream... For Ice cream!
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In space, no one can hear you scream... For Ice cream!


That's because our Klown Overlords have banned it, since it's not as nutritious as a nice pie.

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#23 Jun 09 2012 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good
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I don't remember a question? Other than a "where did we come from" kind of vibe?


How about why they did i & why they wanted to undo it? It being creating humanity.

Edited, Jun 10th 2012 2:01am by Omegavegeta
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#24 Jun 11 2012 at 1:50 PM Rating: Good
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I liked it. It's certainly not genre defining, like Alien, or as enjoyable an action flick as Aliens, but when it was a horror movie it was quite enjoyable. Unfortunately, the bad casting & makeup of Guy Pierce is a bit of a distraction & whatever it tries to do philosophically doesn't work at all, but when its a creepy horror movie it is quite enjoyable.

Fassbender is awesome as the Android, Naomi Rapace is actually more hardcore than Ripley....but it doesn't answer the question it asks at the beginning (Sequel maybe?)


Pretty much agreed on all points, except I didn't really like it for the reasons you provided. I thought there was only one really potent horror scene in the entire thing the "birth" part. Yuck., and the rest never really exceeded the 'mediocre sci-fi horror' level.

Guy Pierce was a nonsensical casting. The makeup wasn't convincing, and his youthful eyes and voice come through too readily. Fassbender's android is creepy and cool, but I felt the movie raised questions about whether he could feel emotion, and whether he had his own motivation that it never got around to answering. Why does he infect Halloway? Is it just sadism? Petty revenge for the verbal jabs? Does that matter? It gets brought up, and then it's like Ridley Scott forgot what he was talking about.

The last bit was the worst. The movie raises the question of why the engineers created people, then wanted to destroy us, then didn't, Then it never answers it.

I've heard people positively compare it to other ambiguous endings, like Inception. I don't see them as comparable, though. Inceptions ambiguity was a reasoned, deliberate choice. The two options it leaves are both entirely spelled out: i.e. the movie can be fully understood either way.

Prometheus' unanswered questions are nebulous. There are myriad possible answers, and they're all self-created (the director/author didn't make them for you). It's not a choice between a few known possibilities; it's simply a massive gap in the narrative. It's a whole part of the story that we just don't get. Makes it seem like an accidental (or thoroughly misguided) omission, not a design decision.

You don't answer those big questions, and what's left? Just a run-of-the-mill creature flick with a couple scares, nothing more. Need to address 'em to make the film work, IMHO.

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Guy Pierce was a nonsensical casting. The makeup wasn't convincing, and his youthful eyes and voice come through too readily. Fassbender's android is creepy and cool, but I felt the movie raised questions about that it never got around to answering. Does that matter? It gets brought up, and then it's like Ridley Scott forgot what he was talking about.


On Guy Pierce: Apparently there were other scenes when he was younger, cut. When I first saw Prometheus, I thought they had only done it for the TED talk!



I'm fairly certain David infected Holloway because Weyland told him too. When Vickers confronts David in the hallway she asked him what the old man said, & he answered "Try harder." Like a lot of what David says, its still ambiguous though as it could also be that he was telling her to "try harder". I'm now of the opinion that the only answer to the Engineers creating humanity was the same one David got from Hollaway, "Because they could". Hopefully why they wanted to destroy us gets touched upon in the sequel, 'cause the only real answer I've found to that is in an interview that Scott gave & it's ridiculous (because 2K years ago, we crucified Jesus, who was an Engineer. Groan.)

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Guy Pierce was a nonsensical casting. The makeup wasn't convincing, and his youthful eyes and voice come through too readily. Fassbender's android is creepy and cool, but I felt the movie raised questions about that it never got around to answering. Does that matter? It gets brought up, and then it's like Ridley Scott forgot what he was talking about.


On Guy Pierce: Apparently there were other scenes when he was younger, cut. When I first saw Prometheus, I thought they had only done it for the TED talk!


Ah, that explains that. Thanks!

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Hopefully why they wanted to destroy us gets touched upon in the sequel, 'cause the only real answer I've found to that is in an interview that Scott gave & it's ridiculous (because 2K years ago, we crucified Jesus, who was an Engineer. Groan.)

Link to interview.


Oh gawd. Well, thanks for the info.
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#27 Jun 12 2012 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
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The last bit was the worst. The movie raises the question of why the engineers created people, then wanted to destroy us, then didn't, Then it never answers it.


Do we still need spoilers this deep in?

I took the "didn't part" because of the break out. When they awoke the one being, he was all **** bent on doing what his last memory was...

They were all set out to fly the ship to Earth and unleash the worms. The holograms in the movie were in reverse.
The last one, when David was in the flight deck showed the group (as i took it) deciding on what planet to hit up (I took it they created life on more than one planet, because they could). Earth was picked. Somewhere in the loading of the ship something got out, and the 1st hologram David activates showed us them running away from something.


I have nothing for the creating of the Human race. The movie ends with the possibility of another pre/squeal that could maybe answer more.

The only thing I left the movie wondering on is why on Earth did they find the "invite" to the planet. Was it more of a warning? Did a few engineers decide they didn't want to kill the human race and come and warn us?

If you through AvP info int0 the history mix, the history of this "Earth" gets weird. Must not ponder on it, have things to do..
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The only thing that you would likely see not so good with it is when you notice that things are a little too good to be true. And that goes with how she was not squashed by the ship thanks to a piece of rock that she would have never seen.


That moment is called Hollywood. You can not just go of and kill everyone...
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