ElneClare wrote:
gbaji wrote:
I'm merely pointing out the unfortunate social reality that it's far easier for each potential victim to take steps to avoid becoming a victim then to attempt to prevent any potential assailant from choosing to assault them.
Really, I should have to dress in baggy clothes that hide my figure and not drink in public, to avoid rape?
Holy hell is that an excluded middle. Um... How about not getting drunk, making out with some guy you just met on the dance floor, and then leaving with him, all while in a state in which you are incapable of making good judgements.
The idea of relying on a potential assailant to *not* take advantage of such a situation seems like a really really really dumb approach. Again, the counter point I made was that given her own actions, if that particular guy hadn't been there that night and assaulted her, there's a high probability that it would have been some other guy who assaulted her instead.
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What we need is, men to learn to not think they have a right to *** with women. I shouldn't have to worry that by telling someone, I'm not interested in them, they may get angry and assault me.
By that logic, the best way to prevent muggings is to just teach people to stop mugging other people. Heck. We could solve
all crime with this novel approach! Why didn't we think of this before? Oh wait. It's because it doesn't work. You're relying on trying to prevent a given crime by teaching the potential criminals not to commit the crime. Note, this does not mean I'm excusing the criminal behavior at all. I am, however, saying that in a world where people do commit all sorts of different crimes, it's a terrifically stupid idea to put yourself in a position where you're an easy victim for criminals.
It's equally dumb to leave your windows rolled down and an iPhone in plain view. Or walk around a bad part of town with hundred dollar bills hanging out of your pockets. None of those behaviors excuse the inevitable criminal behavior which will result. But doing so massively increases your odds of being victimized.
My issue with this line of thinking (and oddly only in this case of this one particular crime) is that it has the side effect of convincing women that since they should be safe to get as drunk as they want at a dance club because men should know better than the assault them, that they're more likely to actually engage in exactly the behavior which increases their odds of being assaulted. It's perverse. It's the kind of thing you'd tell people if you wanted them to become victims. Why do that? Certainly, go after men who assault women. But why not also teach women some common sense things to do in the cases where they run into a man who isn't going to follow the rules? I just don't get the knee jerk negative reaction to this.