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#27 Sep 08 2016 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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]A rare occasion where I agree with gbaji.
Too bad he mucked it up with his follow up post. It's actually pretty common for merchandising sales to increase after quote unquote controversies. In fact a lot of idiots buy things they normally wouldn't just to publicly destroy them.


People also rush out to buy guns and bullets when they think new gun control legislation is about to pass. That's not necessarily an indication of good news for the gun industry as a whole over time through. The point about buying them just to destroy them is amusing though. Never did quite understand that. Then again, someone had to buy that flag they burned too, so maybe it's just how things are done. Protesters are dumb.

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This was always my favorite kind of protester. Same kind that shows up to an anti-globalization rally wearing clothes made in Singapore, talking on a cell phone assembled in China, while nursing a Starbucks Peppermint Mocha.


Do people really seriously protest globalization? So do they think that the globe doesn't exist, or they don't like that it does? Maybe they want a flat earth or something. Cube perhaps? What do they have against globes? Smiley: confused
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Oak. Smiley: rolleyes

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gbaji wrote:
People also rush out to buy guns and bullets when they think new gun control legislation is about to pass.

That has nothing to do with this unless you're implying that people are afraid that his jerseys are going to be outlawed. It's pretty much the opposite, really -- a bunch of people who likely would never buy NFL gear are buying his stuff in support as opposed to some nutjobs hoarding it before scary Obama takes it away.

Plus, as Twiz pointed out, this guy wasn't ever some amazing player that he was moving a bunch of merchandise on his record alone. Saying that less people would buy it (false that that may be) is kind of an empty threat.
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#31 Sep 12 2016 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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#32 Sep 12 2016 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
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When I celebrate the American flag (or country in general) it is my idealized version of it... what it stands for. Whether or not that is actually what it is is another matter.
Some pretty standard ideas (maybe).. something about rights.
When I see people protesting against rape.. I think to myself.. "did they make rape legal?".
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No witnesses and no marks and you're good to go! Smiley: thumbsup
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#34 Sep 12 2016 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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Or just being a college athlete.
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Or Donald Trump/rich.
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Or just being a college athlete.

Watching SJWs struggle to untangle the intersectionality of Brock Turner, sentencing reform, and open carry laws is kind of hilarious.
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Didn't we have someone around here who used to brag about his souped up Honda Civic?
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I remember it as an Accord.
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#39 Sep 13 2016 at 7:17 AM Rating: Good
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After a quick search, apparently it was a Ford Focus.

Smash's parents bought a 2008 Civic. Dunno that I'm getting those confused.
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Watching SJWs struggle to untangle the intersectionality of Brock Turner, sentencing reform, and open carry laws is kind of hilarious.
You had me at struggle. Outrage is always fun.
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Or just being a college athlete.

Watching SJWs struggle to untangle the intersectionality of Brock Turner, sentencing reform, and open carry laws is kind of hilarious.


It's the problem of a "one size fits all" approach to both the outrage and empathy sides of the equation. The reality is that sometimes firearm ownership is a good thing, and sometimes it's not (like say someone defending their home from an intruder versus someone brandishing it around in front of someone's house as part of a protest). Sometimes a stiff sentence for a crime is appropriate, sometimes it's not (circumstances make a huge difference in the treatment of two otherwise identical charges). And sometimes, treating offenders with empathy for the effect of the punishment on their lives is appropriate, and sometimes it's not (such as in the effect of the *** offender registry in some really ridiculous cases, like the guy mentioned in one of the associated articles in the link who did something dumb when he was 12 and is now on the registry for life).

While I know this will just stir up the ant hill (hah, but why not, right?), in the case of Turner, while I think he should have gotten a much longer sentence for his actions, I'm actually kinda on the side of his family with regard to the concept of trying to teach people about the dangers of irresponsible drinking. I read the letter the victim wrote, and it's emotional, but there's one bit that did bother me. She talks about how if she hadn't been there that night, it would have been someone else victimized by Turner. And that may be true. But the flip side is kinda true as well. Given that she chose to drink to a state of near unconsciousness, it's quite probable that had Turner not been there that night, it would have been someone else who victimized her.

And no, before anyone goes there, I'm not blaming the victim, nor excusing her assailant. I'm merely pointing out the unfortunate social reality that it's far easier for each potential victim to take steps to avoid becoming a victim then to attempt to prevent any potential assailant from choosing to assault them. The former merely requires that *you* make good choices. The latter depends on everyone else in the world choosing not to do something you don't want them to. And frankly, if we lived in that world, we wouldn't have any crime at all. That's not going to happen anytime soon, so trying to "educate" potential assailants isn't a terribly effective method to use.

Better to educate potential victims IMO. It's not the perfect solution. And it's maybe not the politically correct solution. But it's the one that would make a much greater impact on the rate of such assaults.
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gbaji wrote:
the unfortunate social reality .
Is that the rich get away with rape.
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And no, before anyone goes there, I'm not blaming the victim, nor excusing her assailant.

No, you really are. Saying you're not doesn't make it less so.

Don't worry. Absolutely no one will be surprised by this.
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#44 Sep 13 2016 at 7:09 PM Rating: Good
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So when gbaji's sister is roofied and raped behind a bar, he'll post here about how she should have known better and that she shouldn't have lured that trust fund guy by her behavioUr.


SWEET.

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Can someone set me up on a giant trust fund?
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I'm merely pointing out the unfortunate social reality that it's far easier for each potential victim to take steps to avoid becoming a victim then to attempt to prevent any potential assailant from choosing to assault them.


Really, I should have to dress in baggy clothes that hide my figure and not drink in public, to avoid rape?

Sorry, I will dress in clothes that look good on me and that means my breast will be one of the first things men will see. In fact I've often had to deal with men who don't see past the fact that I have large breast and not much else. I spend far too much time having to deal with the "Come On's" that strangers make when I'm out by myself.

What we need is, men to learn to not think they have a right to *** with women. I shouldn't have to worry that by telling someone, I'm not interested in them, they may get angry and assault me.
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Relax, ElneClare. From the aftermath of gbaji's sister's future rape he'll totaly be on the victim's side.













Unless he hates his sister, of course.
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The victim being the poor soul who has to endure a few months in prison for assaulting unconscious women.
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gbaji wrote:
I'm merely pointing out the unfortunate social reality that it's far easier for each potential victim to take steps to avoid becoming a victim then to attempt to prevent any potential assailant from choosing to assault them.


Really, I should have to dress in baggy clothes that hide my figure and not drink in public, to avoid rape?

Sorry, I will dress in clothes that look good on me and that means my breast will be one of the first things men will see. In fact I've often had to deal with men who don't see past the fact that I have large breast and not much else. I spend far too much time having to deal with the "Come On's" that strangers make when I'm out by myself.

What we need is, men to learn to not think they have a right to *** with women. I shouldn't have to worry that by telling someone, I'm not interested in them, they may get angry and assault me.


I think we're ignoring the huge grey area here where a drunk man and a drunk woman have ***. A big part of the "1 in 4" statistics people like to throw about. Media is constantly plastered with stories about the "He said She said", and if the law doesn't support "She said" it's just more evidence of rape culture. But maybe those stories themselves are just planted there to promote the rape culture...

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Call me what ever you want, MRA, Alt-Right, what ever. But I'm glad I'm not going to college in this current day, for reasons beyond the cost. I graduated before this social media presence that seems to have completely removed the personal responsibility aspect of your choices as long as you are what they determined to be the "Victim". It diminishes the the real victim. Be it rape, or things like BLM. Real issues being diluted by people latching onto them to hide their poor choices, because social media has convinced them they are the victim.

(I'm still not voting "R". I think all this **** will eventually mellow out... eventually. Probably not soon enough, but eventually.)

Edited, Sep 13th 2016 11:40pm by TirithRR
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I think we're ignoring the huge grey area here where a drunk man and a drunk woman have ***.

Assuming you mean consensual sex (setting aside the question of consent under the influence), that's not what happened in this case so it can be safely ignored.
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Jophiel wrote:
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I think we're ignoring the huge grey area here where a drunk man and a drunk woman have ***.

Assuming you mean consensual sex (setting aside the question of consent under the influence), that's not what happened in this case so it can be safely ignored.

Which case is that? The fictional scenario where Elne responds to Gbaji's suggestion for victim training, about how that means she has to wear baggy clothing or risk being raped by anyone she says no to? The backlash against any suggestions for things like that seem to be swift and full of extremes. Suggest that we do things like make people be aware of their actions while drunk and suddenly you want there to be a free for all where if women aren't wearing hijabs they are always saying "Yes." Which does little to solve the problem.

And I would not refer to a person not consenting to have sex as "having sex". Since you know, that would suggest they are consenting and participating. But for every Brock Turner, there are dozens of Haley Linds. The 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 statistic is not coming from cases like Brock Turner.

Edited, Sep 14th 2016 6:45am by TirithRR
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I'm merely pointing out the unfortunate social reality that it's far easier for each potential victim to take steps to avoid becoming a victim then to attempt to prevent any potential assailant from choosing to assault them. The former merely requires that *you* make good choices. The latter depends on everyone else in the world choosing not to do something you don't want them to. And frankly, if we lived in that world, we wouldn't have any crime at all. That's not going to happen anytime soon, so trying to "educate" potential assailants isn't a terribly effective method to use.

Better to educate potential victims IMO. It's not the perfect solution. And it's maybe not the politically correct solution. But it's the one that would make a much greater impact on the rate of such assaults.


You first argue that an individual should protect themselves because it is easier than persuading all would be rapists not to rape them; you then argue that it is thus better as a society to educate every potential victim rather than every potential perpetrator.

But there is no connection between the two.

Scenario one is changing one person's behaviour vs changing many to keep one person safe, scenario two is changing many people's behaviour vs changing many people's behaviour to keep many people safe. Your reasoning in the first doesn't apply to the second at all.


In any case, the only scientifically proven anti-rape method is to limit social connections with men as much as possible, as the vast majority of rapes are done by men known to the victim. Wearing short skirts etc doesn't actually correlate with victimhood.
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