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I see this mentality every day at my work. It's enough to make you cry.

ALSO: Rate-up for the use of "wresting", an excellent yet highly underutilized word.

It's about HOW you use it. It's like using a dictionary....To hold up a sofa corner.

The license plate!"God keep me".

You? Yes. Your car? Not so much.


Is Trumps' love of fascist dick-bags philosophical or is it just a cynical vote grab?

Racists running over crowds is just the new normal. Hillary lost guys, get over it.

No, he really didn't. He said there was too much hatred on all sides, and it gives him a sad. He did not specifically condemn the white supremacists at the heart of this mess, as he has repeatedly failed to do.

Put it this way: white supremacists are extremely encouraged by his response. So maybe he's not a ****, but he is certainly #1 with *****, and apparently content to be.

Cynical vote grab. That *is* his philosophy. Anything to garner attention for that moment.

Yeah, no one was really impressed by that milquetoast response. Hell, the GOP wasn't even impressed by it, given the responses by people like Senators Rubio, Hatch, Grassley and Gardner. It was weak and pathetic and designed to not really upset the white nationalist base that loves Bannon & Trump. There's not "many sides, many sides..." when a right-wing terrorist kills people in a vehicular attack.

Edited, Aug 13th 2017 12:20pm by Jophiel

When "more than one side" is engaging in terrorism and running crowds of people over with cars, let me know. Until then, keep that weak sauce to yourself

It's interesting in this age of "Health and Safety" that a workplace would allow any noise not created by the machinery to add to the background noise. Harder to hear the forklifts moving about and near you and all...

But then again, you can buy earmuff-style hearing protection with built in music now. Somewhat defeats any sort of warning buzzers, fire alarms, PA speaker announcements, etc.



Anyways, depending on your jurisdiction TirithRR, there's a good chance your health and safety rep has more power over things like this than the manager may think they have.



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and to the comments about duplicate posts (a few were nuked): yep... it is still happening. Gidono (an admn over at the EQ 1 side of things) is looking into it.

Everyone on the factory floor must wear hearing protection at all times. They aren't allowed to wear any speaker devices. No ear buds or headphones. Though I think certain noise cancelling headphones are allowed, a couple people have headphones designed for shooting ranges, that attenuate certain frequencies or noise levels. But that's only like... less than 5 people out of the 600-700 people working there.

I personally hate that operators use radios at their work stations. Specially when I have to work at a machine for repairs or upgrades. They play it so loud that I can barely hear myself think at times. And then if it's a particularly frustrating machine or issue, it just adds to my frustration. I have unplugged people's equipment and thrown extension cords against a wall before. One time some operators had rolling chairs stacked by one of my electrical panels, and when I tried to worked at the machine they were in my way, so I picked them up and tossed them 10 or 15 feet out into the aisle (made sure no one was in the way first). About 30 minutes later another Plant Manger (not this one in question earlier) came up to me and started asking me what was going on, that he had been told that I was throwing things around...

You can't just comment on both sides being violent? He's bad for not picking out the evil side only?

It's not balanced to do so, no. One 'side' brought to bear lethal, premeditated violence, the other did not. On this occasion, the two aren't equivalent, and only someone with an enormous bias would treat them as though they were.

You can reasonably acknowledge violence on both sides, but you can't treat the two as being equally violent.

When I hit you and you shoot me, you're violent thug. When you hit me and I shoot you, we're both violent violent thugs. I choose to frame the fairness in the way that is most beneficial to me, with responsibility singular when it benefits me and responsibility equitable when it also benefits me.

Responsibility is proportional. Threatening violence is bad. Murder is worse. False equivalency is dishonesty.