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#3552 Mar 07 2017 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Well, no. If they removed a toilet then they did. If they added a stall into the existing space then they didn't.


You took up a stall in the design of your restroom that would otherwise have had a toilet. I've yet to see an existing functional restroom in any business that had extra floor space available to put another non-toilet stall. Have you? That would be "wasted space", and that means "wasted money". No one does this. You cram as many stalls into the restrooms as can fit. So no, if you are retrofitting an existing restroom, the only way to do this is to decrease the total number of usable toilets in that restroom by one. Again, unless the original design was so inefficient with floor space that it actually had an entire extra stalls worth of space that was not being used.

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If they designated space in a new room then they didn't.


They designated a stall which could have contained a toilet and chose not to put one there. No matter how you slice it, in order to make room for this you will have one fewer functional toilets in the restroom. I'm not sure how you can think otherwise.


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Especially since adding in the plumbing for an additional toilet is much more extensive than putting up a partition and a chair.


Granted. But that's worse IMO. The extra expense of running the pipes for a toilet in that stall is much cheaper to do when doing the initial build, when the floor is already opened up and you're already running plumbing than it will be when the women working there demand that they have a clean environment to do this, and you end up allocating a small empty office for this anyway, only now your restroom is one toilet shy, and you'll have to rip up the floors to fix the initial dumb design choice you made.

I honestly can't imagine anyone wanting to operate a breast pump in a public restroom. Removing the toilet from the stall still leaves you sitting in a stall in a public restroom. It's kind of an insulting "concession" to the women IMO. You fight to get a private space for breast pumping and they give you a space inside the restroom? Um...

Edited, Mar 7th 2017 5:25pm by gbaji
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#3553 Mar 07 2017 at 6:45 PM Rating: Good
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How much would it suck if all bathrooms were BYOTP?
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#3554 Mar 07 2017 at 6:50 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
That would be "wasted space", and that means "wasted money".


Unless you are charging people to use the bathroom, there is no "Wasted Money", because you are saving money by not having to plumb the stall, you are saving money by not having to purchase the toilet, you won't have the water usage of a toilet to pay for, and the paper product usage will be less, so actually you are could actually be saving money.



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#3555 Mar 07 2017 at 8:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Demea wrote:
Now, on the other hand, I saw some pearl-clutchy post related to tomorrow's "Day Without a Woman" which listed amongst its grievances that most women's bathrooms didn't have tampons readily available in them. I can see why this might urgent if you don't have one, but I can't imagine why anybody would expect that somebody else would provide them.


I suppose that's up to the owner of the building. I could see that as a nice bonus in an office building (I mean, we have free sodas in the break rooms, so why not?). I would totally not expect such a thing in a publicly accessible restroom though. People would just come and take them all. Yes. Some people really do just ruin it for everyone.

I could see putting some kind of vending machine in there though.
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#3556 Mar 07 2017 at 8:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Demea wrote:
My building has a specific room for milking set aside. I suppose they could turn it into another small private call room, but honestly who gives a ****? More power to them; seems like a good use of space and incentive to offer employees.

Now, on the other hand, I saw some pearl-clutchy post related to tomorrow's "Day Without a Woman" which listed amongst its grievances that most women's bathrooms didn't have tampons readily available in them. I can see why this might urgent if you don't have one, but I can't imagine why anybody would expect that somebody else would provide them.


I don't think anyone's expecting a bowl of tampons free for the taking, but a vending machine makes all kinds of sense. Beats taking a half hour or more to get to a pharmacy.
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#3557 Mar 07 2017 at 8:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Aren't tampons sold at most convenience stores? Supermarkets have them at the very least. Pretty much any place with a health aisle will have them for sale. So it's not like it's that far to go. Not that I'm trying to diminish the issue of realizing you need a tampon right now, just curious about the whole "find a pharmacy" bit. But yeah. Put a vending machine in there for emergencies. Doesn't take up much space, and will presumably pay for itself.
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#3558 Mar 07 2017 at 8:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I'm not actually going to argue bathroom planning with Gbaji.
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#3559 Mar 07 2017 at 9:07 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I'm not actually going to argue bathroom planning with Gbaji.
Sorry, Jophiel. gbaji talked to a menstruating female once, so he has at least as much knowledge about the subject as one of those elitist "scientists"...or "women".


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#3560 Mar 08 2017 at 6:57 AM Rating: Good
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It seems rather socialist that most people expect free tissue and soap to be given to them in a bathroom. It's not terribly hard to carry your own.
#3561 Mar 08 2017 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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Milking in women's bathrooms sound like a bad idea considering how absolutely filthy their bathrooms tend to be.
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Well, that's why a separate, non-toilet, stall would be a logical thing if you're going to put your milking area in the bathroom to begin with.
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#3563 Mar 08 2017 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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Allegory wrote:
It seems rather socialist that most people expect free tissue and soap to be given to them in a bathroom. It's not terribly hard to carry your own.


After living in China for a few months, I have been cured of this expectation. And I agree, you lot are all dirty, stinking commies.
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#3565 Mar 08 2017 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
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YTMCND.

Is that even a reference I can make anymore? That website is solidly in the second internet fossil layer.
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#3566 Mar 08 2017 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
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Quint post.

Edited, Mar 8th 2017 2:44pm by Kavekkk
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#3567 Mar 08 2017 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
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Edited, Mar 8th 2017 2:43pm by Kavekkk
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#3568 Mar 08 2017 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
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Well.

Edited, Mar 8th 2017 2:43pm by Kavekkk
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#3569 Mar 08 2017 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
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Uh. I didn't even refresh or anything I just clicked the post button until it worked.

Edited, Mar 8th 2017 2:44pm by Kavekkk
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#3570 Mar 08 2017 at 2:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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YTMCND.

Is that even a reference I can make anymore? That website is solidly in the second internet fossil layer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6oUz1v17Uo
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#3572 Mar 08 2017 at 6:33 PM Rating: Good
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Christ on a cracker, Demea, learn to link.

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#3575 Mar 08 2017 at 7:43 PM Rating: Default
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Allegory wrote:
It seems rather socialist that most people expect free tissue and soap to be given to them in a bathroom. It's not terribly hard to carry your own.


Providing items directly related to the act of urinating or defecating (which is kinda what the toilets are there for in the first place), is pretty reasonable. Providing additional hygiene related items, while certainly nice, are not necessary for the functioning of a public restroom. We could also demand shaving kits, cream, ear hair trimmers, toenail clippers, hand lotion, and a host of other things as well. But we don't.
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Providing items directly related to the act of urinating or defecating (which is kinda what the toilets are there for in the first place), is pretty reasonable.

Of which tissue and soap are not. It's certainly more sanitary than walking around with gunk on your behind, but the same can be said for walking around with gunk in you front.

I'm not demanding every bathroom have tampons, I don't even got me one of them fancy vaginas, but I also don't demand that every bathroom have tissue and soap. If you did any sort of traveling you'd know that many don't. It's nice for bathrooms to have tampons for the exact same reason it's nice for them to have tissue and soap. All of them are convenient for bathroom related sanitary needs. I'm happy to pay the cost that is passed on to me for that convenience. I just don't think my bathroom needs belong to some higher tier than the other half of the population.
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