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Yeah, looking forward to this. Several tenants have complained of things like mice and ants in the apartments, and getting the complex to do something that fixes the problem has been a bit of an issue.

Also, don't eat Nintendo switch cartridges.

Huh, would have never guessed. All the porn I've seen seemed to suggest the opposite.

Logan was awesome, in case anyone is interested.

Where there's a will there a way I guess. Seems like the kind of thing that whether or not it's legal, they'll probably find a way to make it illegal. A program that could detect and avoid likely law enforcement in that way seems like the kind of thing that wouldn't be liked much. If nothing else you probably can't discriminate against people just because they might be law enforcement. Blue is the new black?

Edited, Mar 6th 2017 9:31am by someproteinguy

Better than being seen on a Segway.

Well, with only a bit of , the concern is something many privacy advocates have been talking about for years now. The very nature of data collection leads to forms of discrimination. Even when a company is choosing what advertisements to send to which groups (or even individuals), that's still a form of discrimination. Now we might view choices in terms of who gets the ice cream ads and who gets the health food ads to be pretty benign, the same tools can be used for other, less acceptable forms. At the end of the day, the data collected is a form of profiling that goes well beyond what any law enforcement agency has ever even imagined, but can have significant socio-economic impact.

Even ignoring the more overt aspects (like just not responding to sets of people who've been profiled as "bad customers"), the basic advertising bit can be a concern. Advertising affects behaviors (otherwise no one would do it). When advertising is tailored to groups of people based on micro-profiling, you can easily steer people to different lifestyle behaviors based on those profiled characteristics. So white middle class folks are being exposed to an entirely different "world" than working class blacks, for example. Everything from what pop ups appear in our browsers, what email ads appear in our inbox, what random stuff shows up in our facebook feeds, what searches pop up first in our browsers, etc. Even setting aside any deliberate malicious efforts, it still can serve to divide people into groups based on profiled assumed responses, and thus actually enhance the very assumed differences. When groupA is always presented with one set of information, and groupB presented with a different one, based on the assumption that groupA and groupB innately prefer different things, it will tend to actually create and re-enforce that starting assumption. You can literally make stereotypes true with this sort of thing.

The really scary potential to this is when folks realize that instead of just waiting to see what people like or want and then tailoring to those things, they can start shaping peoples needs and wants proactively, and then tailoring each level of information interaction based on responses to the previous one all designed to nudge their audience to sets of results they want. Which can be anything from purchasing choices, lifestyle choices, social ideology, and politics, to entertainment, what sports they like to watch, how they receive news, how they communicate with others around them, etc, etc, etc.

A Brave New World indeed.

I milk myself once a day, whether I need it or not!

I'm going to guess that it's just more pleasant to not feed your child where someone else was shitting three minutes prior. I mean, I'd rather not eat my lunch while sitting on a toilet in a public bathroom stall even if, realistically, there's little harm in me doing so.

Related: I'm guessing the toilet-less stall where no one blows ass or tries to hover-pee stays cleaner than the standard stalls. Also, there's less reason to be resentful at someone taking up a stall for 15min if there's no toilet in there anyway.

Edited, Mar 7th 2017 8:41am by Jophiel

I gotcha. I'd still guess that it's cleaner, more pleasant that sitting on the pot and less burden to vacate quickly so someone else can use the toilet. Agreed that it seems less necessary than a nursing station but I can see the point of it.

I'm assuming they didn't actually remove a toilet to install this. So it's not as though it's hurting anything.

If it's in a restroom, then they kinda did. At the very least, if this is a new build rather than just refitting an existing restroom, that's a stall that would have had a toilet if the space were not being used up for this purpose. Which seems wasteful, at the very least.

Why not just do what we do, and designate "lactation rooms". You know, just a regular office set aside for this purpose. I've got to assume that floor space in a restroom, with the plumbing, tiles, etc, is more expensive to set aside (and you know, less convenient for everyone else). And I'd assume that if cleanliness is an issue of concern (hence the point of not just using a stall with a toilet), wouldn't not having this in a restroom at all make a lot more sense?

As a woman, I rather have a whole room set aside, then a stall in a restroom.

One of the things you must be careful about in storage of milk you extract, is hygiene of the room you are in, since you need a place to put down the breast pump and storage bag, after you are finish. Each time a toilet is flush, it send a fine spray of water into the air. .

Plus many women will need an outlet to plug in their breast pumps, as they are so much easier to use then the manual one I had to use back some 35 years ago.

If I was a woman, working in any factory that made car parts, I would suggest they kick some manager out of his office, before they make women use a stall in the restroom to express their milk.

Of course, one could say the same about toilet paper, so /shrug.