Omegavegeta wrote:
you should probably be playing Dragon Age or Far Cry like the rest of us instead.
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I've played through 3 games in the last week. Nice try though.
Omegavegeta wrote:
Your devotion to this "cause" that most of us were bored with weeks ago is amusing.
Go back to the corner and keep quiet.
Donate. One day it could be your family.
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An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
Samira wrote:
Would I prefer full disclosure when reading a game review? Sure.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Samira wrote:
I guess I'm still not seeing where "journalism" enters into any of this.
Would I prefer full disclosure when reading a game review? Sure. If I don't see any statement of affiliation or lack thereof, I'm going to assume that the review is a puff piece. If I can't find another review of the same game, that just reinforces that impression.
The entire concept of "journalism" has changed drastically in the Internet age. When the New York Times can't keep its reporters on the leash, how much control does a web site really have? (Assuming the web site isn't the sponsor of the game being reviewed, of course.)
Would I prefer full disclosure when reading a game review? Sure. If I don't see any statement of affiliation or lack thereof, I'm going to assume that the review is a puff piece. If I can't find another review of the same game, that just reinforces that impression.
The entire concept of "journalism" has changed drastically in the Internet age. When the New York Times can't keep its reporters on the leash, how much control does a web site really have? (Assuming the web site isn't the sponsor of the game being reviewed, of course.)
I don't want people to be free to tell game reviewers to push an agenda of any kind. They have the power to control what games get made by controlling what people hear about games when that power should lie in the hands of consumers who exercise it by choosing to play games that interest them. Games journalists exist to serve those who play games, not the other way around. It's about damn time they remember that.
And maybe, if we're lucky, seeing what we can do in our hobby could have a ripple effect across other media empires. I'm not holding my breath, but it would be nice.
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Games journalists exist to serve those who play games, not the other way around. It's about **** time they remember that.
This is a fairly naive view of the world.
Game reviewers are employees, typically. Their loyalty is most likely with whoever pays them.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
I demand better from the media I consume.
Pay $50 per review, then. Welcome to capitalism. Honestly you should have figured this out quite a while ago...
Pay $50 per review, then. Welcome to capitalism. Honestly you should have figured this out quite a while ago...
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lolgaxe wrote:
Samira wrote:
Would I prefer full disclosure when reading a game review? Sure.
I don't think it would bother me at all if someone I never met proclaimed me extinct. Unfortunately people are not always respectful of others, and less so online where we have the (increasingly illusory) cloak of anonymity and the convenience of distance. At what point did you get so sensitive to the opinions of others expressed online?
I would also tend to dismiss death threats over an Internet message board; but maybe that's just me.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
At what point did you get so sensitive to the opinions of others expressed online?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Pay Per Review. This should be a service.
Someone needs to start a media review site that claims freedom from bias. Charge for membership...or charge per review. Books, news, movies, games, whatever.
Someone needs to start a media review site that claims freedom from bias. Charge for membership...or charge per review. Books, news, movies, games, whatever.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
lolgaxe wrote:
Samira wrote:
At what point did you get so sensitive to the opinions of others expressed online?
This doesn't ring true, but okay.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
lolgaxe wrote:
Samira wrote:
At what point did you get so sensitive to the opinions of others expressed online?
But it's not about anti-progressivism, or misogyny. Obviously.
"Stick to the script!" - Mariah Carey 2001
Timelordwho wrote:
I'm not quite sure that scheming is an emotion.
Elinda wrote:
Pay Per Review. This should be a service.
Someone needs to start a media review site that claims freedom from bias. Charge for membership...or charge per review. Books, news, movies, games, whatever.
Someone needs to start a media review site that claims freedom from bias. Charge for membership...or charge per review. Books, news, movies, games, whatever.
And then, to make it more exclusive, they could print it up, and sell it to people...Maybe call it a Magazine, or something like that
Dandruffshampoo wrote:
Curses, beaten by Professor stupidopo-opo.
Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Stupidmonkey is more organized than a bag of raccoons.
Great idea. Gaming websites could even use these 'magazines' as a sweetener is their own subscription models.
Timelordwho wrote:
I'm not quite sure that scheming is an emotion.
Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Pay Per Review. This should be a service.
Someone needs to start a media review site that claims freedom from bias. Charge for membership...or charge per review. Books, news, movies, games, whatever.
Someone needs to start a media review site that claims freedom from bias. Charge for membership...or charge per review. Books, news, movies, games, whatever.
And then, to make it more exclusive, they could print it up, and sell it to people...Maybe call it a Magazine, or something like that
It's interesting that there are so many more controls on print media than there are for online media. Search engines are starting to mark advertisements as such, but there is as far as I know no such requirement for web pages. So a game review, which (in my opinion) barely counts as journalism in the first place, may or may not be a paid advertisement.
Should anyone propose that content should be categorized like that, I imagine there would be some outcry from the "information wants to be freeeeeeeeeee!" crowd.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Samira wrote:
Would I prefer full disclosure when reading a game review? Sure.
I don't think it would bother me at all if someone I never met proclaimed me extinct. Unfortunately people are not always respectful of others, and less so online where we have the (increasingly illusory) cloak of anonymity and the convenience of distance. At what point did you get so sensitive to the opinions of others expressed online?
I would also tend to dismiss death threats over an Internet message board; but maybe that's just me.
I'm not buying this beef.
Besides the fact that you're taking something literal that you know isn't meant to be literal just because the messenger..yo. Gamers don't like the gamer stereotype and fight against it yet you feel threatened if someone claims the derogatory term and what it represents to be dead or dying? How much sense does that make?
We are not all basement dwelling, woman-hating, hot-pocket eating introverts. Let the stereotype die with the term.
(it won't die though cuz people play games and it would be silly to call the game-players skiers or plumbers... Just saying)
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Samira wrote:
This doesn't ring true, but okay.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
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We are not all basement dwelling, woman-hating, hot-pocket eating introverts
The problem is that they are the loudest group that plays games, so its kind of hard to let the stereotype die when they're frothing at the mouth over the opinions of a boring feminist. Just like its hard to ignore the stereotype that woman are bad drivers after watching something like this.
"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
lolgaxe wrote:
Samira wrote:
This doesn't ring true, but okay.
You should be grateful, whining like a sniveling kid every time you think a woman's taking something away from you isn't a traditional masculine virtue. Feminism's really blazed that trail for you.
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So a game review, which (in my opinion) barely counts as journalism in the first place, may or may not be a paid advertisement.
Reviews aren't journalism at all. It's criticism, which is perfectly valid even if it is ultimately just some random dude's opinion. Game previews from E3 etc are the stuff that's barely journalism, especially as it's usually a puff piece thinly veiling a press release. Of course, most 'news' is written in the same way so there you go, the human race is doomed.
Timelordwho wrote:
I'm not quite sure that scheming is an emotion.
Omegavegeta wrote:
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We are not all basement dwelling, woman-hating, hot-pocket eating introverts
The problem is that they are the loudest group that plays games, so its kind of hard to let the stereotype die when they're frothing at the mouth over the opinions of a boring feminist. Just like its hard to ignore the stereotype that woman are bad drivers after watching something like this.
Or you know..just look at driving data.
I think Gamergate should go after the Hot Pocket makers for full disclosure.
Does anyone really know what they're made of???
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Kavekkk wrote:
Feminism's really blazed that trail for you.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Kavekkk wrote:
the human race is doomed.
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
someproteinguy wrote:
Kavekkk wrote:
the human race is doomed.
One would have to have to actually sex with a 3-legged dog and enjoy it less than the game before ethically and factually writing such a review.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
lolgaxe wrote:
Kavekkk wrote:
Feminism's really blazed that trail for you.
Oh, you do this to all my posts, not just the military bashing ones. Nice to know.
Is there some reason why your cowardice has kicked in with me in particular?
Timelordwho wrote:
I'm not quite sure that scheming is an emotion.
Kavekkk wrote:
Is there some reason why your cowardice has kicked in with me in particular?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Kavekkk wrote:
Is there some reason why your cowardice has kicked in with me in particular?
The selective quoting is nice, it's always good to know exactly what part of my post it was that guaranteed I'd get a response.
I guess in this post it'd be this bit coming up where I call you a cunt.
Timelordwho wrote:
I'm not quite sure that scheming is an emotion.
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