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#1 Aug 13 2014 at 9:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I have to say this, it disturbs me that so many people are talking about how horrible they feel about what happened to Robin Williams while totally ignoring the atrocities that ISIS is committing in the Middle East. I certainly grieve with others over the loss of Mr. Williams, but this is just a perfect indicator of how upside down society is when we place a higher value on one man that we do entire cities or countries.
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#3 Aug 13 2014 at 9:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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ISIS, the Middle East, Israel, Palestine, Gaza, Ebol-Africa, etc... those are not part of our Society. And have little to no affect on my every day life.

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#4 Aug 13 2014 at 9:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm more upset over an unarmed 18-year-old getting shot by the police in Mississippi.
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#5 Aug 13 2014 at 9:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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In/out group loyalty is a factor in this. There is also the the sentiment that Robin Williams has done something for them personally, as many people have watched his films or comedy, whereas the nameless killed in some far off corner of the world haven't personally touched their life, therefore are more or less irrelevant to them. How much do you weep for the random victims of smoking or natural disasters or automobile accidents?
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I have to say this, it disturbs me that so many people are talking about how horrible they feel about what happened to Robin Williams while totally ignoring the atrocities that ISIS is committing in the Middle East.

People know who Robin Williams is, versus nameless random Middle Eastern people.

Obviously what Williams should have done was gone all Commando on ISIS and gotten killed and thus raised awareness of ISIS related stuff. Then everyone's a winner.
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#7 Aug 13 2014 at 11:11 PM Rating: Good
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I'm more upset over an unarmed 18-year-old getting shot by the police in Mississippi.

I think that was Missouri. Suburb of St. Louis and all.

Today I personally was sick enough of hearing about Robin Williams (though I was of course devastated) that I was more interested in hearing about ISIS latest moves as well as the ongoing "cease-fire" between Israel and Palestine.
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Glitterngld wrote:
I have to say this, it disturbs me that so many people are talking about how horrible they feel about what happened to Robin Williams while totally ignoring the atrocities that ISIS is committing in the Middle East. I certainly grieve with others over the loss of Mr. Williams, but this is just a perfect indicator of how upside down society is when we place a higher value on one man that we do entire cities or countries.

Even if we were talking about ISIS, if we put as much actual effort into it as we do with Robin Williams' death, it's not like it would affect anything. I'm not going to be writing a letter to my congressman about either, nor will I be sending humanitarian aid or troops, so what does it really matter?
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Huh. that was almost bad. Read a very similar spammer post earlier heh.
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#10 Aug 14 2014 at 12:54 AM Rating: Good
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How can you be upset by all of the petty things listed above when Cartoon Network is airing a new show about Jesus being black. I, for one, am outraged.
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I was more interested in hearing about ISIS latest moves as well as the ongoing "cease-fire" between Israel and Palestine.
They'll probably just put a little too much emphasis on the fire part of cease fire.
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#12Almalieque, Posted: Aug 14 2014 at 5:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I took his death as sad news until I found out 'twas suicide.
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Glitterngld wrote:
....a perfect indicator of how upside down society is when we place a higher value on one man that we do entire cities or countries.
"Expressing loss" is not in anyway the same thing as "placing value".





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#14 Aug 14 2014 at 6:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think complexity plays a part. What we call "ISIS" is actually a loose and fractious coalition of groups, and the overall agenda is unclear. Much of this is because the media, with few exceptions, fails to do in-depth analysis of what's happening, preferring rapid cycling news bites.

Suicide and depression, on the other hand, have touched many of us personally. We don't understand them perfectly but we have enough context to have a meaningful discussion.

Well, most of us can.
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#15 Aug 14 2014 at 6:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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ISIS's goal is pretty clear. The sub-factions may have competing designs on the structure and ideology of the new society built, but their overarching goal is clear: To establish a new state in the ashes of the corrupt West backed regimes.

Much like OWS, it's leadership isn't stable, so it is labeled as 'directionless'. But that is part of the modern propagandist strategy to discredit threats to western power. Do note that I'm not taking their side, I abhor religious fundamentalism in all it's earthly guises.
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I have to say this, it disturbs me that so many people are talking about how horrible they feel about what happened to Robin Williams while totally ignoring the atrocities that ISIS is committing in the Middle East.

Which "atrocities" are you talking about? The 'atrocity' of overthrowing in-arguably corrupt rule that came at the cost of hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths? The 'atrocity' of doing so with near overwhelming popular support? The 'atrocity' of threatening energy resources? That last one is without question the 'atrocity' the US is responding to.

Take your third grade current events self righteousness and go fuck yourself. Nothing DAASH (ISIS is such an idiotic label that makes no sense even as an acronym) has done remotely approaches the 'atrocities' the US carries out daily going about the normal business of enforcing our will on the rest of an unwilling world through force.

Life isn't a made for TV movie. This idea that the US only uses force to "defend" some arbitrary set of ideals is childish and repugnant. Stop being such a fucking sucker and perpetuating it.
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Catwho wrote:
I'm more upset over an unarmed 18-year-old getting shot by the police in Mississippi.

I think that was Missouri. Suburb of St. Louis and all.

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Debalic wrote:
Catwho wrote:
I'm more upset over an unarmed 18-year-old getting shot by the police in Mississippi.

I think that was Missouri. Suburb of St. Louis and all.

Afergustan!

Thanks for the correct! I blame it being late in the evening, and I blame the original settlers for picking too many state names that start with M. Also my 7th grade geography teacher, Mr Gorton.
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#19 Aug 14 2014 at 7:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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“If he was able to do that, what about a terrorist?” questions Corsicana resident Betty Ary.


Ah, Texas...
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#20 Aug 14 2014 at 7:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Wal-Mart doesn't intend to seek charges against the teen, Nick said.

Oh, a white kid. Was hard to tell without a picture, but now we know.
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“If he was able to do that, what about a terrorist?” questions Corsicana resident Betty Ary.
Ah, Texas...
Legitimate concern. There's a 90% chance the teenager was a part of a terrorist sleeper cell, after all.
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#23 Aug 14 2014 at 8:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Glitterngld wrote:
I have to say this, it disturbs me that so many people are talking about how horrible they feel about what happened to Robin Williams while totally ignoring the atrocities that ISIS is committing in the Middle East. I certainly grieve with others over the loss of Mr. Williams, but this is just a perfect indicator of how upside down society is when we place a higher value on one man that we do entire cities or countries.
People care more about people who look like them. It's a universal survival strategy. Studies have shown even the people you are friends with are more closely related to you than would be expected at random from a population.

Besides we just had a thread about this the other day, so I guess the big question is: if you cared so much why weren't you participating in it?

For shame.

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Take your third grade current events self righteousness and go fuck yourself. Nothing DAASH (ISIS is such an idiotic label that makes no sense even as an acronym) has done remotely approaches the 'atrocities' the US carries out daily going about the normal business of enforcing our will on the rest of an unwilling world through force.

Isn't DAASH and ISIS/ISIL just the same thing in different languages, hence different letters?
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#25 Aug 14 2014 at 9:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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How many of us know someone who suffers from mental illness or committed suicide, compare to members of minority groups fleeing from ISIS?.

While I'm following the news coming from Iraq, it didn't affect me as much as learning someone who's comedy touch my life, committing suicide. I've lost friends who could no longer face each day under depression's dark cloud and been almost there myself before I got help. I can help those around me who suffer from depression, I don't have the power or resources to help those fleeing ISIS.
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#26 Aug 14 2014 at 10:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Take your third grade current events self righteousness and go fuck yourself. Nothing DAASH (ISIS is such an idiotic label that makes no sense even as an acronym) has done remotely approaches the 'atrocities' the US carries out daily going about the normal business of enforcing our will on the rest of an unwilling world through force.

Isn't DAASH and ISIS/ISIL just the same thing in different languages, hence different letters?

I like ISIS because of Archer.
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