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#77 Nov 25 2013 at 11:34 PM Rating: Good
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Well, americanprogress.org is clearly an objective source, right? Lol!


Of counting? Yes, I'd imagine so. Seems it would be trivially easy to dispute the numerical values in question that make this, once again, the most obstructionist opposition in history. Which was the point in question, correct?

Not an explanation for why that hinges on Obama as a mustachioed villain plotting his long term political gain by nominating communist party members and NAMBLA founders with full knowledge they could never be confirmed. I'll ignore that part of your post.

Incidentally, this is just appointments, the numbers on actual legislation are far worse, and again, just math. The whole debt ceiling nonsense, etc. etc. It's provable and easily so that this opposition is the most obstructionist....ever. If you'd like to agree that the current opposition's entire strategy is not to govern at all and to oppose all attempts to, but then rationalize why that's a good idea, that's fine.

If you want to argue against something that's simple to prove and factually based, I'm afraid you're going to have to provide the same hallucinogenics you're currently using to the rest of us.
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#78 Nov 25 2013 at 11:34 PM Rating: Default
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Is that more or less logical than insisting that someone can't say something now unless they can prove they also said it at some point in the past?

I don't want to speak for Joph, here, but having the rare and magical gift of the clarity of not actually being you, I'm going to go ahead and posit that his point is that absolutely any person on the planet, and very likely most chimpanzees can determine your opinion on any subject with no input from you, and importantly, with complete ignorance of the subject matter, merely by asking the political context.


Then why is it that I have to continually explain to Joph that he's completely wrong about what my position is and why I hold it? I mean, this whole bit is about Joph insisting that I really believe X, and when I say "no. That's not correct at all", he spins off onto some tangent about how apparently I'm not allowed to express any political position other than the strawman ones that he wants to argue against.


I'll point out again that I have clearly defined exactly what my position is on this and how I derive that position. If you guys have a problem with it, then at least have the maturity to address my position. And if you can't actually find a good argument against the position I actually hold, then have the decency to admit that it's a valid position instead of lamely trying to change the subject.
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#79 Nov 25 2013 at 11:39 PM Rating: Good
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Then why is it that I have to continually explain to Joph that he's completely wrong about what my position is and why I hold it?

You don't.

He's not.

You play pretend after the fact. Transparently. I'm not sure why. No one, I mean ABSOLUTELY no one, believes anything but that you (poorly) attempt to adjust positions that appear hypocritical with logical fallacies children would laugh at.

There's no mystery. You're not confused or befuddled why anyone would think you're a hypocrite. No one is, it's because you're a hypocrite. I'm certain you know this. The pathology of the disorder that makes it impossible to acknowledge it is something else, entirely. I don't know enough about your particular mental illness to diagnose there.
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#80 Nov 25 2013 at 11:41 PM Rating: Default
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And on the subject of ignoring the subject. Here's the point I just made:

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Um... Smash? Ever consider that Obama's judicial nominees are being held up at an historic rate because he's attempting to appoint overtly partisan judges to key positions at an unprecedented rate? Most presidents realize that their appointments can potentially be blocked by the minority party so they engage in this amazing thing called negotiating with the minority party prior to nominating anyone so as to ensure that obstacles don't happen. And what that means is that a bit of horse trading goes on. He agrees to appoint X judges off the minority party list out of a set of X+Y judges, and in return they don't block any of them.

That's how every president that doesn't end out with a sub 50% confirmation rate does it. Obama, on the other hand, has deliberately chosen to say FU to the GOP, refuses to negotiate, and refuses to compromise on appointments, and then sits around acting shocked and surprised when his nominees get holds put on them.


And this is you completely ignoring it.

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Well, americanprogress.org is clearly an objective source, right? Lol!


Of counting? Yes, I'd imagine so. Seems it would be trivially easy to dispute the numerical values in question that make this, once again, the most obstructionist opposition in history. Which was the point in question, correct?

Not an explanation for why that hinges on Obama as a mustachioed villain plotting his long term political gain by nominating communist party members and NAMBLA founders with full knowledge they could never be confirmed. I'll ignore that part of your post.

Incidentally, this is just appointments, the numbers on actual legislation are far worse, and again, just math. The whole debt ceiling nonsense, etc. etc. It's provable and easily so that this opposition is the most obstructionist....ever. If you'd like to agree that the current opposition's entire strategy is not to govern at all and to oppose all attempts to, but then rationalize why that's a good idea, that's fine.

If you want to argue against something that's simple to prove and factually based, I'm afraid you're going to have to provide the same hallucinogenics you're currently using to the rest of us.



Yes. Wonderful. I'm sure the folks at the website in question can count. You'll note that unfortunately for your little strawman, my response had nothing to do with counting, and not even with counting the numbers of blocked appointments, but had everything to do with there being an explanation for why Obama has had so many of his appointments blocked other than "The GOP are just a bunch of poopyheads!".

But heaven forbid you actually address the key issue of *why* he has such an abysmal confirmation rate. That's just crazy talk. I mean, it's not like it's not the presidents job to work with congress to get his nominations passed or anything, so it's not like a low rate can reasonable be said to be the fault of said president and his staff or anything. Oh wait! Both of those things are true!
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#81 Nov 25 2013 at 11:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yes. Wonderful. I'm sure the folks at the website in question can count. You'll note that unfortunately for your little strawman, my response had nothing to do with counting, and not even with counting the numbers of blocked appointments, but had everything to do with there being an explanation for why Obama has had so many of his appointments blocked other than "The GOP are just a bunch of poopyheads!".

But heaven forbid you actually address the key issue of *why* he has such an abysmal confirmation rate. That's just crazy talk. I mean, it's not like it's not the presidents job to work with congress to get his nominations passed or anything, so it's not like a low rate can reasonable be said to be the fault of said president and his staff or anything. Oh wait! Both of those things are true!


Are they?

Can you please list the judicial nominees that have been blocked that were unreasonable and why? Maybe I missed it and they really shouldn't have been nominated. I mean these should be obvious flaws, right, that could easily have been found and then used to avoid these nominations, correct? It should be obvious that your argument isn't particularly compelling at the moment with it's complete and utter lack of any non abstract information. Please provide the names and reasons so that we can all come around to the point of view you've taken here. Given your certainty, I'm sure it won't take long. Just kidding. Let's just both pretend I didn't ask.
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#82 Nov 26 2013 at 8:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Look, they're obvious reasons but for some made up reason that's going to take asking seven questions and four dismissive snide remarks that will all be claimed as "important details" no one is at liberty to give the exact reason. Mainly because constitution and logic.

Posts get fluffed more than John Holmes ...

Edited, Nov 26th 2013 9:23am by lolgaxe
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#83 Nov 26 2013 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
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I know gbaji doesn't get his news from anywhere, so he's probably not aware that the GOP has instituted a policy since Obama's first election to flat out block anything he does.
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You can't prove that, Debalic and even if you provided a cite from the liberal indoctrination media it wouldn't prove anything because the media would just be portraying the noble efforts of the GOP inaccurately.

Also, if I never heard of it then it wasn't important and it's your fault for being such a pathological insane person for being aware of it.
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#85 Dec 02 2013 at 3:29 PM Rating: Good
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So just to sum up: the most obstructionist opposition in the history of congress by literally any objective measure is really just made up PR and the majority party intentionally is sabotaging it's own agenda because dragons.



I love this post, and it's pretty much all I hear in my head whenever reading a Gbaji post since I came to this forum.

Because dragons.

Really, once you break it down that way, it suddenly all becomes so clear.

#86 Dec 02 2013 at 8:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hey. I had nothing to do with that one. It was the damned komodo dragons. They like to stir **** up in political circles.
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#87 Dec 04 2013 at 2:27 PM Rating: Default
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Debalic wrote:
I know gbaji doesn't get his news from anywhere, so he's probably not aware that the GOP has instituted a policy since Obama's first election to flat out block anything he does.


Except for all the stuff that they didn't block though, right? So why some and not all? Clearly you're missing something here and things aren't as bumper sticker simple as you're making them out to be.
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#88 Dec 04 2013 at 4:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hey Gbaji, do you get a lot of sand up your nose?
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Hey Gbaji, do you get a lot of sand up your nose?


No. See, cause it's the guy claiming that the GOP has a "block everything Obama does" policy that has his head buried in the sand

If the GOP was simply blanketly filibustering every single Obama appointment, that number would be zero, right? It's not. Therefor, they aren't just blocking every appointment Obama attempts, are they? I mean, heaven forbid we actually use facts to support our claims. That would be crazy!
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gbaji wrote:
Debalic wrote:
I know gbaji doesn't get his news from anywhere, so he's probably not aware that the GOP has instituted a policy since Obama's first election to flat out block anything he does.


Except for all the stuff that they didn't block though, right? So why some and not all? Clearly you're missing something here and things aren't as bumper sticker simple as you're making them out to be.

That just means the GOP are a bunch of spineless cowards who talk a big talk but aren't willing to follow through. If that makes you feel better...
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#91 Dec 05 2013 at 3:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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All that stuff they didn't block, like anything defense related. I can't imagine why they didn't block that stuff...
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#92 Dec 05 2013 at 3:37 PM Rating: Default
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All that stuff they didn't block, like anything defense related. I can't imagine why they didn't block that stuff...


You didn't bother to read the link, did you? I'll give you a hint: It was about 200+ judicial appointments that have been confirmed since Obama has taken office. How on earth could that happen if the GOP is committed to blocking everything Obama does? Might just be a hint that maybe that's just not true.
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#93 Dec 05 2013 at 4:23 PM Rating: Good
Or maybe it's just a hint that it's just not true where just matters of justice are justly concerned, and the GOP would find it hard to justify just saying no again and again to a bunch of justice candidates that are just great.
#94 Dec 05 2013 at 4:52 PM Rating: Decent
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That's just not just right!
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#95 Dec 05 2013 at 7:51 PM Rating: Good
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You didn't bother to read the link, did you?
That link doesn't really contradict what I said, but if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy on the inside you go right ahead with your usual missing the point shtick.
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#96 Dec 06 2013 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
That's just not just right!
I just read an entire gbaji post! Smiley: yippee Smiley: yippee Smiley: yippee


Edited, Dec 6th 2013 8:35am by someproteinguy
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someproteinguy wrote:
gbaji wrote:
That's just not just right!
I just read an entire gbaji post! Smiley: yippee Smiley: yippee Smiley: yippee


Edited, Dec 6th 2013 8:35am by someproteinguy

I read it twice.
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someproteinguy wrote:
gbaji wrote:
That's just not just right!
I just read an entire gbaji post! Smiley: yippee Smiley: yippee Smiley: yippee


Edited, Dec 6th 2013 8:35am by someproteinguy

I read it twice.
You ********* you.
#99 Dec 06 2013 at 5:44 PM Rating: Default
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gbaji wrote:
You didn't bother to read the link, did you?
That link doesn't really contradict what I said, but if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy on the inside you go right ahead with your usual missing the point shtick.


Given that what you said was posted after (and presumably in response to) the link I posted, then it's not really about whether there's a contradiction, but whether your post addresses at all what was in the link. It doesn't. Cause the link was about a large number of successful judicial appointments, and you responded with some garbage about the GOP not blocking defense related stuff.

That may very well be true as well, but that's not really the issue, nor does it address at all what I posted.
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gbaji wrote:
Given that what you said was posted after (and presumably in response to) the link I posted, then it's not really about whether there's a contradiction, but whether your post addresses at all what was in the link. It doesn't.
My post was also after your post that said "all the stuff they didn't block," which any intelligent being would be able to draw parallels between. Like I said though about warm and fuzziness, since you're just using this to keep from answering Smash.

Edited, Dec 6th 2013 11:33pm by lolgaxe
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See, the real problem is that people think they know what other people mean when they say things, and they don't actually know what those people mean when they say those things.

At least, some people don't.

Know what I mean?
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