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They'll still get paid, so there's a little money either way.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I'm just going to leave this here...
"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
Sorry I can't find another source, but this video is pretty interesting. Apparently the House changed the rules of the House on October 1st so that instead of anyone, ONLY Boehner or his designate can bring a bill to the floor of the house that will reopen the Government.
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"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Looks like the T Party lost, completely. Just as everyone but them predicted they would.
"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
A picture is worth 1,000 words, and that one has to be worth at least that many... 
Yay, let's end the crazy already!
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 3:15pm by someproteinguy
Yay, let's end the crazy already!
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 3:15pm by someproteinguy
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
If I understand it correctly, the senate reached a deal and has voted/will vote on is and house tea party has said they won't filibuster so it'll likely go through?
No filibusters planned, and the house says they'll vote on it as is. There's no roadblocks in the way at the moment, and it should have the vote to pass both chambers. Things look good unless something unexpected happens.
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
There are no filibusters in the House but, correct, the Tea Party folk agreed to no delaying tactics in either chamber.
This sort of bill is required to originate in the House so the Senate is taking an old House bill sent to them and rewriting it to reflect the Senate agreement. Then they'll send it back to the House for approval. The same tactic was used to avoid a filibuster during the rapid, last minute passage of the healthcare law coincidentally enough.
This sort of bill is required to originate in the House so the Senate is taking an old House bill sent to them and rewriting it to reflect the Senate agreement. Then they'll send it back to the House for approval. The same tactic was used to avoid a filibuster during the rapid, last minute passage of the healthcare law coincidentally enough.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Well isn't that a funny little twist. I really hope making Obama sign up for his own signature health care package and checking his I.D. income, whatever, when he does (more fodder for the birthers!?) is worth 2 weeks of government shutdown. 
And we kicked the can down the road until mid-January? Oh well, tune back in then everyone!
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 3:54pm by someproteinguy
And we kicked the can down the road until mid-January? Oh well, tune back in then everyone!
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 3:54pm by someproteinguy
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
Holy sh*t its been 2 weeks already! I wonder how much real news Ive missed amid the media frenzy of finger pointing pundits.
Oh right Canadian government is back too!
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 9:56pm by rdmcandie
Oh right Canadian government is back too!
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 9:56pm by rdmcandie
HEY GOOGLE. **** OFF YOU. **** YOUR ******** SEARCH ENGINE IN ITS ******* ****** BINARY ***. ALL DAY LONG.
rdmcandie wrote:
Holy sh*t its been 2 weeks already! I wonder how much real news Ive missed...
Oh right Canadian government is back today too!
Oh right Canadian government is back today too!
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
actually Ill have you know Stephen Harper has spent the extra summer vacation working on issues that really matter to Canadians. We can expect our Conservative government to push for more regulations on roaming fees for cell phones, and finally the ability to pick what channels we get on TV instead of selecting packages full of sh*t for 1 good channel. Ya you lost 3.1 Billion somewhere *wink* *wink*, ya your appointed senators are crooks, ya your party is being investigated for election fraud, and yes we know you aren't chasing 29B in delinquent corporate taxes....but soon I can pick my own TV channels and not worry as much about roaming. I mean **** the economy and our 42% decreased currency value! After all spending over 200 Million on the advertising campaign assures me that everything is working just fine!
Great day for Canadian Democracy, I can not wait.
On the topic of the American Government turning back on, did the republicans really just stamp their feet for 2 weeks about pushing a Clean Bill to solve these problems, only to push through a bipartisan house bill with amendments? Figuratively like a spoiled toddler who got told no to candy in the checkout line "Ill kick and scream and when I wake up I won't remember why I was upset!"
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 10:16pm by rdmcandie
Great day for Canadian Democracy, I can not wait.
On the topic of the American Government turning back on, did the republicans really just stamp their feet for 2 weeks about pushing a Clean Bill to solve these problems, only to push through a bipartisan house bill with amendments? Figuratively like a spoiled toddler who got told no to candy in the checkout line "Ill kick and scream and when I wake up I won't remember why I was upset!"
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 10:16pm by rdmcandie
HEY GOOGLE. **** OFF YOU. **** YOUR ******** SEARCH ENGINE IN ITS ******* ****** BINARY ***. ALL DAY LONG.
rdmcandie wrote:
We can expect our Conservative government to push for more regulations
Canadians...
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
someproteinguy wrote:
rdmcandie wrote:
We can expect our Conservative government to push for more regulations
Canadians...
Hey I got billed from Rogers for roaming fees on my cell phone...Apparently 3 months ago I spent 25 days in Ohio (honestly who wants to spend more than one) but thanks to Rogers inferior signal I was being picked up by US towers over the summer. The signal coming across Lake Erie was stronger than the one coming 15 minutes away in London. They dropped the obscene roaming charges when I said hey *********** I am not even allowed to go to the states, I don't even have a god damn passport. (which is true I can't enter USA anymore, Thanks Obama.)
Now I am on Koodo, and get Canada wide coverage at one rate, and never connect to Ohio, because **** Ohio...and Rogers. More so Rogers.
HEY GOOGLE. **** OFF YOU. **** YOUR ******** SEARCH ENGINE IN ITS ******* ****** BINARY ***. ALL DAY LONG.
Sorry, I just have to laugh at the idea of a "conservative government" pushing any kind of regulation.
Telus or GTFO.
rdmcandie wrote:
Now I am on Koodo, and get Canada wide coverage at one rate, and never connect to Ohio, because @#%^ Ohio...and Rogers. More so Rogers.
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
someproteinguy wrote:
Sorry, I just have to laugh at the idea of a "conservative government" pushing any kind of regulation.
Telus or GTFO.
rdmcandie wrote:
Now I am on Koodo, and get Canada wide coverage at one rate, and never connect to Ohio, because @#%^ Ohio...and Rogers. More so Rogers.
Technically Koodo piggy backs on TELUS network. Its cheaper with less commitment. Check it out!
McCain interview with Anderson Cooper was pretty good. I think he hit the nail on the head, it hurt all government but it hurt the GOP more than anything.
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 10:55pm by rdmcandie
HEY GOOGLE. **** OFF YOU. **** YOUR ******** SEARCH ENGINE IN ITS ******* ****** BINARY ***. ALL DAY LONG.
If I was an American.
I would vote on a Stewart/Colbert or Colbert/Stewart ticket. Order to be decided by rockem sockem boxing match or alphabet game.
when they win Conan Obrien can be tabbed as Secretary of State.
If pop culture told me to.
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 11:21pm by rdmcandie
I would vote on a Stewart/Colbert or Colbert/Stewart ticket. Order to be decided by rockem sockem boxing match or alphabet game.
when they win Conan Obrien can be tabbed as Secretary of State.
If pop culture told me to.
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 11:21pm by rdmcandie
HEY GOOGLE. **** OFF YOU. **** YOUR ******** SEARCH ENGINE IN ITS ******* ****** BINARY ***. ALL DAY LONG.
rdmcandie wrote:
On the topic of the American Government turning back on, did the republicans really just stamp their feet for 2 weeks about pushing a Clean Bill to solve these problems, only to push through a bipartisan house bill with amendments? Figuratively like a spoiled toddler who got told no to candy in the checkout line "Ill kick and scream and when I wake up I won't remember why I was upset!"
Hey now. The GOP didn't accomplish nothing with this. They did manage to waste billions of dollars and give federal workers an extra two weeks of paid vacation.
Oh, and lots of photo ops in front of the WWII memorial. Don't forget that. You can't put a price tag on photo ops but, if you could, it would easily be billions of dollars.
HuffPo wrote:
The government shutdown has taken at least $24 billion out of the United States economy, the financial ratings agency Standard & Poor's said Wednesday.
The firm said the shutdown caused it to cut its forecast of gross domestic product growth in the fourth quarter by at least 0.6 percentage point. The agency lowered its estimate for GDP growth to close to 2 percent from 3 percent.
The estimate represents a staggering cost to the economy of a completely self-inflicted political catastrophe. Unlike the 2008 economic crisis and other past recessions, the government shutdown had nothing to do with larger economic trends. The numbers show Washington's brinksmanship caused real damage beyond furloughed government workers and the Washington, D.C., region.
The firm said the shutdown caused it to cut its forecast of gross domestic product growth in the fourth quarter by at least 0.6 percentage point. The agency lowered its estimate for GDP growth to close to 2 percent from 3 percent.
The estimate represents a staggering cost to the economy of a completely self-inflicted political catastrophe. Unlike the 2008 economic crisis and other past recessions, the government shutdown had nothing to do with larger economic trends. The numbers show Washington's brinksmanship caused real damage beyond furloughed government workers and the Washington, D.C., region.
Oh! And it helped seal the deal for a Democratic governor in Virginia in a few weeks. So, that's something else. See? A regular cornucopia of benefits...
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 11:05pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
rdmcandie wrote:
If I was an American.
I would vote on a Stewart/Colbert or Colbert/Stewart ticket. Order to be decided by rockem sockem boxing match or alphabet game.
when they win Conan Obrien can be tabbed as Secretary of State.
If pop culture told me to.
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 11:21pm by rdmcandie
I would vote on a Stewart/Colbert or Colbert/Stewart ticket. Order to be decided by rockem sockem boxing match or alphabet game.
when they win Conan Obrien can be tabbed as Secretary of State.
If pop culture told me to.
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 11:21pm by rdmcandie
Technically, you are "American", North American.
Why you gotta hate on South America man? They are American too.
HEY GOOGLE. **** OFF YOU. **** YOUR ******** SEARCH ENGINE IN ITS ******* ****** BINARY ***. ALL DAY LONG.
rdmcandie wrote:
Why you gotta hate on South America man? They are American too.
Including Canada as part of the Americas also includes South America.
Jophiel wrote:
rdmcandie wrote:
On the topic of the American Government turning back on, did the republicans really just stamp their feet for 2 weeks about pushing a Clean Bill to solve these problems, only to push through a bipartisan house bill with amendments? Figuratively like a spoiled toddler who got told no to candy in the checkout line "Ill kick and scream and when I wake up I won't remember why I was upset!"
Hey now. The GOP didn't accomplish nothing with this. They did manage to waste billions of dollars and give federal workers an extra two weeks of paid vacation.
Oh, and lots of photo ops in front of the WWII memorial. Don't forget that. You can't put a price tag on photo ops but, if you could, it would easily be billions of dollars.
HuffPo wrote:
The government shutdown has taken at least $24 billion out of the United States economy, the financial ratings agency Standard & Poor's said Wednesday.
The firm said the shutdown caused it to cut its forecast of gross domestic product growth in the fourth quarter by at least 0.6 percentage point. The agency lowered its estimate for GDP growth to close to 2 percent from 3 percent.
The estimate represents a staggering cost to the economy of a completely self-inflicted political catastrophe. Unlike the 2008 economic crisis and other past recessions, the government shutdown had nothing to do with larger economic trends. The numbers show Washington's brinksmanship caused real damage beyond furloughed government workers and the Washington, D.C., region.
The firm said the shutdown caused it to cut its forecast of gross domestic product growth in the fourth quarter by at least 0.6 percentage point. The agency lowered its estimate for GDP growth to close to 2 percent from 3 percent.
The estimate represents a staggering cost to the economy of a completely self-inflicted political catastrophe. Unlike the 2008 economic crisis and other past recessions, the government shutdown had nothing to do with larger economic trends. The numbers show Washington's brinksmanship caused real damage beyond furloughed government workers and the Washington, D.C., region.
Oh! And it helped seal the deal for a Democratic governor in Virginia in a few weeks. So, that's something else. See? A regular cornucopia of benefits...
Edited, Oct 16th 2013 11:05pm by Jophiel
And now we've got an idea of price of this magical mystery tour.
Just as Planned.
My Gov will be so disappointed.
He had declared an emergency last week allowing him to by-pass union contracts and furlough or fire state workers at will. I was given a roster of our employees early this week with all the federally funded positions highlighted, and told to 'prepare' for lay-offs.
He had declared an emergency last week allowing him to by-pass union contracts and furlough or fire state workers at will. I was given a roster of our employees early this week with all the federally funded positions highlighted, and told to 'prepare' for lay-offs.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Because normal people may actually agree with the guy for once...
Quote:
National Review notes that anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist told reporters that the defunding brigade should “apologize.â€
“It’d be a good idea if they stopped referring to other Republicans as Hitler appeasers because they opposed the strategy they put forward which failed,†Norquist is quoted as saying. “I think if you make a mistake as big as what they did, you owe your fellow senators and congressmen a big apology — and your constituents, as well, because nothing they did advanced the cause of repealing or dismantling ObamaCare…They hurt the conservative movement, they hurt people’s health care, they hurt the country’s economic situation and they hurt the Republican Party.â€
“It’d be a good idea if they stopped referring to other Republicans as Hitler appeasers because they opposed the strategy they put forward which failed,†Norquist is quoted as saying. “I think if you make a mistake as big as what they did, you owe your fellow senators and congressmen a big apology — and your constituents, as well, because nothing they did advanced the cause of repealing or dismantling ObamaCare…They hurt the conservative movement, they hurt people’s health care, they hurt the country’s economic situation and they hurt the Republican Party.â€
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
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