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#52 Oct 08 2013 at 1:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is a great top of page post. Without context I have to assume Joph won Rilo Kiley tickets.
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I would insist on concessions if I were Jbone, too. I mean, it's worked EVERY OTHER TIME. Whey on earth would you assume Obama suddenly won't cave this time? He's trained the GOP that this is the correct response.
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This is a great top of page post. Without context I have to assume Joph won Rilo Kiley tickets.

Jenny Lewis. The one Rilo Kiley show I saw sucked. Although that was mainly because they (venue? band? who hires this guy?) had a deaf shitmonkey working the soundboard. All the Jenny Lewis shows I've seen though have been ace.
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This is a great top of page post. Without context I have to assume Joph won Rilo Kiley tickets.

Jenny Lewis. The one Rilo Kiley show I saw sucked. Although that was mainly because they (venue? band? who hires this guy?) had a deaf shitmonkey working the soundboard. All the Jenny Lewis shows I've seen though have been ace.
I had to read that three times before I realized that you weren't talking about Jerry Lewis.
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I declare reverse-sequester: If this supercommittee fails, we get to raise taxes 25% across the board and declare war on two nations of the GOP's choosing.


Looks like we'll be annexing Canada and Poland.
Pfft, like the GOP would annex Canada when the GOP is already running Canada.
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Jenny Lewis. The one Rilo Kiley show I saw sucked. Although that was mainly because they (venue? band? who hires this guy?) had a deaf **** working the soundboard. All the Jenny Lewis shows I've seen though have been ace.

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I declare reverse-sequester:
Threaten to not speak for however long it takes before you get your way?
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Jenny Lewis? The girl from that Nintendo movie with Fred Savage and his autistic brother?
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Jenny Lewis? The girl from that Nintendo movie with Fred Savage and his autistic brother?

I'm more worried about why you can identify the actors from that film. You need to get out more.
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Jenny Lewis? The girl from that Nintendo movie with Fred Savage and his autistic brother?

I'm more worried about why you can identify the actors from that film. You need to get out more.

I forgot about Beau Bridges and Christian Slater...
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It takes two sides to disagree.
One side being utterly @#%^ing ridiculous makes it easy to disagree though.


I agree. The side that says "we'll spend $1T more money than we're taking in every single year for four years and then refuse to meet with the other side to discuss that fact despite that our job requires us to do this" is being pretty ridiculous.


Which has absolutely nothing to do with the money already spent. Two separate issues. You can pass a clean CR and address the ACA spending afterwards.


No. We can't. That's the problem. It's somewhat amusing to constantly hear the Democrats bemoaning the evil Republicans using some required legislative deadline as a means to try to force them to negotiate on some budget thing or other, given that the Democrats have steadfastly refused to even sit down to discuss such things *unless* there's some looming deadline hanging over their heads.

When the only thing that will bring you to the table is a crisis like this, you're kinda setting up the situation, aren't you? As I've said before, the Democrats have failed to pass a budget for 4+ years (even when they controlled Congress). The CRs (and deadlines to extend them) exist *because* we have failed to reach any sort of budget agreements. They are not unrelated subjects.

Put another way: If your claim was true, then we wouldn't be here right now. The reality is that the Dems have been saying for four years "Let's just pass a CR and we'll discuss budget afterwards", and then they don't discuss the budget until the CR is set to expire. Then they repeat the same argument. So no. If the GOP lets a "clean CR" go through, we wont get any budget negotiations from Democrats. And in 6 months or whatever time frame the extension lasts, we'll be back here again. And you'll make the same argument, having completely forgotten that it wasn't true the time before, or the time before that, or the time before that.

How many times must the GOP give the Dems the benefit of the doubt before they hold them to their word?
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And yet, it was Senate Republicans that blocked the 21st attempt at forming a budget committee today. Filibustered!
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When the only thing that will bring you to the table is a crisis like this, you're kinda setting up the situation, aren't you?


Exactly. The very reasonable GOP is well known for it's a priori moderation of positions and pro active negotiating techniques. Their willingness to eschew obstructionism and govern fairly has given rise to them being referred to colloquially as "Clays" harkening back to days of the Great Compromiser himself. Noted GOP orator Shooter McGavin has frequently noted that the party as whole enjoys making things out of clay down by the bay because of the symbolic importance.
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And yet, it was Senate Republicans that blocked the 21st attempt at forming a budget committee today. Filibustered!


Um... Because it's the same thing I just explained to Alma that didn't work in the past and wont work today. Saying "we'll form a budget committee, but only if you agree to continue funding everything we want" isn't exactly a fair offer, is it? It's like saying "We'll discuss what we'll have for lunch after we eat lunch at my favorite restaurant". There's no guarantee that said budget committee will result in any sort of budget agreement, doubly so if the Democrats have already gotten what they wanted before anyone sits down at the table.

I'll repeat the same thing I said earlier about these conference committees (may have been in this thread, don't remember): The House rules require that the conference resolve whatever issue it's formed for within 20 days of members being assigned. Those who don't know this might take Reid's offer to "immediately seat members for a conference committee" as some kind of positive concession from him. But the reality is that by doing this, he's basically ensuring that nothing will come out of the conference. So he's not even offering something that might result in a budget agreement. He's essentially saying "give us what we want, and we'll give you nothing in return". But he's doing it in such a way that ignorant people will think he's making a fair offer.


That's reasonable politics, but that's all it is. Only the foolish and the ignorant would think it's a fair offer though. If he were serious about reaching a budget agreement, he would have gone through the process of negotiating such a conference, along with a full agenda, and all the pre-work required to make one work, and he would have done this months ago. Instead, he just tosses out a PR stunt designed to fool the masses, while doing nothing that will actually result in a budget deal.


At this point, the only thing that will work is some kind of actual funding reduction agreement as part of the CR. It probably doesn't even have to be that huge. But the Dems are trying to play this out in the media instead of actually trying to fix the problem. That'll work for awhile, but not forever.

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The House rules require that the conference resolve whatever issue it's formed for within 20 days of members being assigned.

Or else what?
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The House rules require that the conference resolve whatever issue it's formed for within 20 days of members being assigned.

Or else what?
They'll decide in a match of rock/paper/scissors.
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To save Gbaji any more frantic Googling, the answer is... "not much".

After 20 days without resolution, members of the House may offer to make a "motion to instruct" which is merely a non-binding vote to say "Keep at it" or "Don't include new taxes" or whatever. Here is a semi-recent example* in all its terrifying action:
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The House voted 386-34 on Wednesday to instruct conferees to the House-Senate negotiations on a highway bill to finish their work by Friday.

The vote is the latest attempt by House members to influence the ongoing talks, although the move is largely seen as symbolic and the vote is nonbinding.

Rep. Tim Walz (D-Minn.) introduced the motion to instruct this week, and urged support as a way to recognize that Congress as a whole needs to do its job better. The resolution was debated Tuesday.
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After the vote, House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) said they would bring up additional motions to instruct. Hoyer's would call on the House to accept the Senate bill, and Black's would call on the House to reject Senate language establish grants to fight distracted driving.

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD -- I can see why it would be worth refusing to work on a budget and drive the nation to the brink of economic collapse to prevent that! Did you READ that?! One guy offered a motion saying "Hurry up" and two other may want votes on things too!! And they let this happen in a supposed house of legislature?

Look, I'm sorry I ever doubted Gbaji. I, for one, do not want to live in a world where members of the US House of Representatives ask to have votes on non-binding instructions to conferees. But wait! What's this?

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Democrats announced Saturday that, in exchange for Republicans appointing conferees to hash out a long dormant budget resolution, they would forfeit their right to offer a “motion to instruct” the House conferees. That’s a tactic minority lawmakers are allowed to employ if a conference report hasn’t been filed within 20 days of appointing conferees. It’s also one of the few devices available to the minority party to break majority hegemony in the House.

Alas, the Speaker hasn't taken them up on it and even this thin, pathetic reed of an argument has been washed away from Gbaji's grasp Smiley: frown

*Really, the US House has done so little in the last couple years that very little has gone to conference and there isn't much to pick from. As I noted in the other thread, it sure would be terrible if a motion to instruct interrupted the House's busy schedule of voting to defund the ACA for the 50th time and demanding investigations into why government parks closed during a government shutdown.


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The House rules require that the conference resolve whatever issue it's formed for within 20 days of members being assigned.
Or else what?
They'll decide in a match of rock/paper/scissors.
I'd bet it was Monopoly.
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As I noted in the other thread, it sure would be terrible if a motion to instruct interrupted the House's busy schedule of voting to defund the ACA for the 50th time and demanding investigations into why government parks closed during a government shutdown.

No no, not "shutdown" : "slimdown" You must have missed the Frank Luntz messaging seminar.

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The House rules require that the conference resolve whatever issue it's formed for within 20 days of members being assigned.
Or else what?
They'll decide in a match of rock/paper/scissors.
I'd bet it was Monopoly.

And then there's the exploratory committee to decide on who will be the tophat...
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No. We can't.


Not only can you, but they will.

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When the only thing that will bring you to the table is a crisis like this, you're kinda setting up the situation, aren't you? As I've said before, the Democrats have failed to pass a budget for 4+ years (even when they controlled Congress). The CRs (and deadlines to extend them) exist *because* we have failed to reach any sort of budget agreements.


Exactly, so you think something will magically come up in 7 days? Obviously Democrats fail at managing money, so you think this 4+ year problem will be resolved in a week? Pay the bills, then address the issues that keep us in the crisis to crisis mentality.

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They are not unrelated subjects.


The Republicans asked to delay the individual mandates of ACA. That has absolutely nothing to do with the problem mentioned above, which is a failure to manage money. Delaying ACA mandates do not resolve any of those issues, so ironically, you're just "putting it off" in the same manner which you ridicule. So, if you're so bent on solving the entire problem in a week, delaying ACA for a year will not magically address the fundamental issues you have with ACA nor will it address spending if DEMS can cut spending else where.

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Furloughed? Drunk? Bored? Any combination of the above? Why not drunk dial congress and yell at them? Website calls the office of a random member of Congress for you so you can vent. It even offers things to yell about!
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Hey, Ryan finally says he'll appoint conferees to the budget that's been sitting around for the last however many months!
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#78 Oct 10 2013 at 1:30 PM Rating: Excellent
Travelling in the states is amusing right now. Most people seem vaguely embarrassed. They really like the system in Canada where if you don't pass the budget the government is dissolved and there are elections 6 weeks later.
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Obviously you're talking to the wrong people. Real Americans are filled with pride and exceptionalism over this.
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Travelling in the states is amusing right now. Most people seem vaguely embarrassed. They really like the system in Canada where if you don't pass the budget the government is dissolved and there are elections 6 weeks later.


HAHAHAHAHAHA

We're all like "ugh we have to vote again??!??" when this happens up here.
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Travelling in the states is amusing right now.
I do enjoy the hour and a half weekly travel. It's the two end points I'm not particularly fond of.
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I've been sitting in the Minneapolis airport all day today. I'm in a lounge so obviously among people who as awesome as I am, I don't associate with the lower plebs who have to stay in the airport, which has consisted of mainly democratic people but one person who was obviously of a somewhat apologetic republican bent. I'm entertained.
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Travelling in the states is amusing right now. Most people seem vaguely embarrassed. They really like the system in Canada where if you don't pass the budget the government is dissolved and there are elections 6 weeks later.


HAHAHAHAHAHA

We're all like "ugh we have to vote again??!??" when this happens up here.


For a while there it was kinda cool. Started to feel like a lottery in the mid 00's.
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It has it's downsides, but honestly I still prefer it to the immunity that politicians have in the US.
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I'd just prefer a larger party pool with proportionate representation. That way you could penalize a party without totally **** your representation.
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It has it's downsides, but honestly I still prefer it to the immunity that politicians have in the US.

It is a good vetting process we sit them in a minority so we can sleep around for a bit, gives us a better edge to chose the guys who will deep **** us as a majority better.
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The sale itself is over but classic games seller GOG.com had an entertaining promotion:
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Speaking from one organization that has had an unpopular shutdown to another: America. What are you doing? America? Stahp.

Shutdowns are never popular, and all of the polls show that this is not a big hit with most Americans either. Americans may be looking for something fun to do, since all their parks are closed for the moment. Thankfully your favorite purveyor of digital games is here to help. It occurs to us that one of the problems may be that there are people on Capitol Hill who don't know what a functioning government looks like, so we thought we'd help and point a few out with a special 24-hour 50% off Shutdown Promo.

The Guild: Gold Edition is a great place to see where the term "Machiavellian Politics" originated from. If you're looking to find a land where earning power was the key to success in the political arena, look no further. Meanwhile, in Capitalism Plus and Capitalism 2, you can get the best economic sims that money can buy half off and see for yourself how a demand economy functions. Tropico Reloaded is 50% off as a reminder of what can happen when governments go awry, and Alpha Centauri (with the Alien Crossfire expansion!) has more different styles of governments modeled than you can shake a stick at. So, really, these games are a quick lesson in civic government. Because we're concerned for you guys.

There has been a lot of furor over health care in America leading up to this shutdown, and we think it's a shame so many people are upset about medicine and how to treat each other. To help further our educational mission for this promo, we figured we'd put Theme Hospital in the sale as well, because that way you can judge for yourself just how tricky it can be to balance the needs of sick patients against limited budgets. Finally, for reasons entirely unrelated to who may or may not have been involved in shutting down the US Government, we also appear to have Redneck Rampage on sale 50% off.

Finally, we would like to express our condolences to everyone who's been furloughed by the shutdown. More than that, actually, we'd like to offer you the games pack of our special Shutdown Promo for free. Send an email to thanksobama@gog.com with your picture holding the official furlough letter you received, before Friday 11 October 2013 at 12:00 EDT and we'll give you The Guild: Gold Edition, Capitalism, Capitalism 2, Tropico: Gold Edition, Alpha Centauri + Alien Crossfire, Theme Hospital, and Redneck Rampage free.


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How many times must the GOP give the Dems the benefit of the doubt before they hold them to their word?

Like the GOP knows what that means.


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It's not the Republicans' fault! If only Obama would give up this crazy notion of taking care of the people, then the Republicans would be glad to work things out.
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It has it's downsides, but honestly I still prefer it to the immunity that politicians have in the US.
My office is over the armory that gets turned into election central. I'd really rather not deal with that many people every three weeks with how our politicritters operate. I mean, maybe they'll figure it out after a cycle or two, but those first few months will be enough for me to start laying at the top of the stairs and taking aim with a rifle.
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It has it's downsides, but honestly I still prefer it to the immunity that politicians have in the US.
My office is over the armory that gets turned into election central. I'd really rather not deal with that many people every three weeks with how our politicritters operate. I mean, maybe they'll figure it out after a cycle or two, but those first few months will be enough for me to start laying at the top of the stairs and taking aim with a rifle.
But imagine the fun you'll have those first few months, it'd be like prize shooting at a carnival but with so many targets you can't miss.
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White House is reportedly working with the GOP Senate to craft a bill that will open the government and raise the debt limit into Feb 2014. GOP House is furious. The Senate has a lot more to lose because, while the House may be safely gerrymandered, the Senate is not and the current situation is destroying the chances for a Republican majority in the Senate.

Of course, then when the House blocks it, it'll be "Compromise supported by White House, Senate Democrats, Senate Republicans and House Democrats blocked by Tea Party activists in GOP House."
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Or senate republicans betray house GOP, depending on your point of view.
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Or senate republicans betray house GOP, depending on your point of view.

Erik Erikson of Redstate is calling for John McCain's head on a mavericky platter.
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Reid & McConnell reportedly closing in on a deal. Reid's demanding concessions knowing that the GOP is taking the worst of this and needs this to end (from a political perspective) more than the Democrats do. For each "face saving" GOP measure, the Democrats want something concrete in return; no "Well, you get to open the government if..." nonsense.
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For all the good it's going to do when the House changed the rules so only Eric Cantor can bring any Senate-sent budget bills to the floor. Smiley: bah

Edit: The shutdown finally affected my office today. We're unable to import any new geographic data because (tada) it's the government that supplies it. It's provided freely, but the website we get it from is shut down.

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For all the good it's going to do when the House changed the rules so only Eric Cantor can bring any Senate-sent budget bills to the floor. Smiley: bah

While that was a shoddy (if legitimate) thing to do, it really won't have any bearing on this. Most House Republicans already are resigned to the fact that whatever the "bipartisan" Senate bill will be at this point, they're stuck with it and there's a strong sense among the rank & file to just get this done with already.

Edit: Looks like a deal is mostly hammered out.
Ezra Klein, Washington Post, wrote:
The outline of the emerging Senate deal is this: The government is funded until Jan. 15. The debt ceiling is lifted until Feb. 7. There are a handful of small Affordable Care Act changes: Stronger income verification, which Republicans want, and a one-year delay on the reinsurance tax, which Democrats want.

Oh, and there's a bicameral budget committee that needs to report back by Dec. 13.

The timing of all this is designed to create a fight about sequestration. The Jan. 15 deadline means funding for the federal government runs out at the exact moment sequestration's deeper cuts kick in. The Dec. 13 deadline means that the full House and Senate would have time to consider any package of recommendations the bicameral committee comes up with, if the committee actually manages to come up with anything.

The deal isn't official yet. It hasn't passed the Senate yet. And it certainly hasn't passed the House yet. But if it does clear those hurdles -- and, again, that's a big if -- it'll mean Republicans and Democrats have agreed to take what began as a fight over the Affordable Care Act and make it into a fight over sequestration.

That's what the Democrats want. It's also what some Republicans, including Rep. Paul Ryan and Grover Norquist want. But it's not been what the Ted Cruz wing of the Republican Party wants. The question now is how much pull they really have. This, from Robert Costa, suggests the answer might be "less than they did a few weeks ago"


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They have to get something done by Thursday, even if it's just a delay.
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They will; there's no money in crashing the government. You just have to be patient with them, this kind of world-wide attention for their political agenda isn't easy to give up. Smiley: rolleyes
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I think SatW summed up my view of it rather accurately.
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Well things are stupid... Smiley: bah
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