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#1 Aug 21 2013 at 8:51 PM Rating: Good
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/us/2011-ruling-found-an-nsa-program-unconstitutional.html?_r=0

And now that Manning is in jail for decades, hdds at Guardian smashed to bits ( ha-ha ), can we finally focus on bringing some real criminals to justice? Law of the land and all that jazz?

Or am I, as almost nearly always, expecting a little too much?
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#2 Aug 22 2013 at 7:56 AM Rating: Good
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/us/2011-ruling-found-an-nsa-program-unconstitutional.html?_r=0

And now that Manning is in jail for decades, hdds at Guardian smashed to bits ( ha-ha ), can we finally focus on bringing some real criminals to justice? Law of the land and all that jazz?

Or am I, as almost nearly always, expecting a little too much?
Sounds like Manning may be getting the *** change operation he needs. Also, reports are he'll likely be out in 6 to 7 years. He'll be called Chelsea after the change. Maybe she'd agree on a date with you.
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#3 Aug 22 2013 at 8:18 AM Rating: Good
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Sounds like Manning may be getting the *** change operation he needs.
But that'll make the prison rape scenes less fun for the camera crew. Smiley: frown
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How about it, peanut gallery? Manning says Manning wants to start hormone therapy to begin Manning's life as a woman but Levensworth doesn't provide that.

Should Manning go to a woman's prison and be treated as a woman during Manning's incarceration?
Should Manning be moved to a prison that can provide Manning's desired treatment?
Should we pay for Manning's treatment while Manning is in prison?

Pronouns studiously avoided to prevent hurting Manning's feelings.
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#5 Aug 22 2013 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
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Should Manning go to a woman's prison and be treated as a woman during Manning's incarceration?
I'm pretty sure Manning is going to be treated as a woman regardless of which prison he goes to.
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You mean "which prison SHE goes to", Mr. Hate Crime.
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#7 Aug 22 2013 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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How about it, peanut gallery? Manning says Manning wants to start hormone therapy to begin Manning's life as a woman but Levensworth doesn't provide that.

Should Manning go to a woman's prison and be treated as a woman during Manning's incarceration?
Should Manning be moved to a prison that can provide Manning's desired treatment?
Should we pay for Manning's treatment while Manning is in prison?

Pronouns studiously avoided to prevent hurting Manning's feelings.


I'm fine with him going to a woman's prison. I'm fine for paying for hormone therapy. I'm fine paying for the therapy bills along the way. And if his therapist rules it's vital to his mental health to be able to surgically reassign his genitalia, then sure.

I don't particularly care. Next to the price of housing him in prison, it's pretty negligible.

Thing is, because of the way US law typically works, you can't reassign your gender until you've reassigned your genitalia. So there's nearly no chance of him going to a women's prison. And the chances of him surviving 35 years trying to transition in prison is next to nothing.

That, or he'd be the most popular one there. We'll see.
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#8 Aug 22 2013 at 9:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Should Manning go to a woman's prison and be treated as a woman during Manning's incarceration?
Should Manning be moved to a prison that can provide Manning's desired treatment?
Should we pay for Manning's treatment while Manning is in prison?
Sure, whatever. Bet we can crowdsource it pretty easy.

idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Thing is, because of the way US law typically works, you can't reassign your gender until you've reassigned your genitalia. So there's nearly no chance of him going to a women's prison. And the chances of him surviving 35 years trying to transition in prison is next to nothing.

That, or he'd be the most popular one there. We'll see.
Aren't they going to put him somewhere he can't mingle with the locals? He didn't seem like the type of person they'd let roam around the general prison population.
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#9 Aug 22 2013 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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Or am I, as almost nearly always, expecting a little too much?


Listen, if you're not satisfied wit the way our relationship is going, we can talk about it. There's no need to do this thinly veiled sniping **** you always pull.
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Jophiel wrote:
Should Manning go to a woman's prison and be treated as a woman during Manning's incarceration?
Should Manning be moved to a prison that can provide Manning's desired treatment?
Should we pay for Manning's treatment while Manning is in prison?
Sure, whatever. Bet we can crowdsource it pretty easy.

idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Thing is, because of the way US law typically works, you can't reassign your gender until you've reassigned your genitalia. So there's nearly no chance of him going to a women's prison. And the chances of him surviving 35 years trying to transition in prison is next to nothing.

That, or he'd be the most popular one there. We'll see.
Aren't they going to put him somewhere he can't mingle with the locals? He didn't seem like the type of person they'd let roam around the general prison population.


No clue; it's possible. I'd imagine it's just a normal federal prison?
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There's a Leavenworth federal medium security prison and there's a maximum security military prison in Leavenworth as well. I didn't see it clarified (nor did I look hard) but I assumed he's going to the latter.

Edit: I looked at the Wiki entry for Manning (didn't help) and someone was kind enough to change all the pronouns to female.

Edited, Aug 22nd 2013 10:54am by Jophiel
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I was told they were just going to dig a hole and leave him in it.
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Ah, the rarely discussed Leavenworth Federal Oubliette.
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Edit: I looked at the Wiki entry for Manning (didn't help) and someone was kind enough to change all the pronouns to female.
We should go in and change all the pronouns to something like badger.
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The only thing I know about Leavenworth is that's where your character is sent if you kill too many friendlies in America's Army.
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Or am I, as almost nearly always, expecting a little too much?


Listen, if you're not satisfied wit the way our relationship is going, we can talk about it. There's no need to do this thinly veiled sniping sh*t you always pull.

I thought this why u luv me.
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angrymnk wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/us/2011-ruling-found-an-nsa-program-unconstitutional.html?_r=0

And now that Manning is in jail for decades, hdds at Guardian smashed to bits ( ha-ha ), can we finally focus on bringing some real criminals to justice? Law of the land and all that jazz?

Or am I, as almost nearly always, expecting a little too much?
Sounds like Manning may be getting the *** change operation he needs. Also, reports are he'll likely be out in 6 to 7 years. He'll be called Chelsea after the change. Maybe she'd agree on a date with you.

Cute. Ms. 'hate crime' Elinda did not consider that I may not like women in that way, changed, or as some unnamed deity intended. Report to re-education center citizen.
The thing that baffles me is the focus on genitalia when his sexual identity, while potential contributing factor, should easily be eclipsed by gov raping us on, apparently, reg. basis. You would think pplz would want to protect ther sorry sore ******
Nop. Swy. They are talking about @someone's junk@ on the telly.
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#18 Aug 24 2013 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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You might have a point if you weren't too dumb to articulate it.
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#19 Aug 24 2013 at 10:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not sure what he wants either. Something about genitalia don't matter and buttsex? As if we need another thread on that topic... Smiley: oyvey

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 9:16am by someproteinguy
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Genitalia matters when it comes to buttsex.
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Well you can't stick a vag in a pooper.
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That's what toys are for.
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That's what toys are for.

Then it's not **** ***. It's **** stimulation.
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Strap-on is close enough.
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#26 Aug 24 2013 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
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BrownDuck wrote:
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It's like sticking two plungers together.
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Then it's not **** ***. It's **** stimulation.
Maybe if they're double headed.
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#28 Aug 26 2013 at 4:16 PM Rating: Default
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You might have a point if you weren't too dumb to articulate it.


Tsk. Tsk. Oh, deary deary me. Your words would have carried tad more weight, if you were able to use conditional clauses properly, See what I did there, Mr. Articulate?

In other news, NSA apparently our brave analysts watched True Lies and decided to abuse its power to spy on their exes to the extent that they created interagency category "loveint."

I forgot, me being old and all, which one of you was arguing again that there were no abuses?
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#29 Aug 26 2013 at 4:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can't figure out how someone working for a government agency, who knows the tools at their disposal, would somehow think they could get away with using some of those tools for their own personal use.

Or maybe they figured it was all worth it to know the truth, I guess. Smiley: rolleyes
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I can't figure out how someone working for a government agency, who knows the tools at their disposal, would somehow think they could get away with using some of those tools for their own personal use.

Or maybe they figured it was all worth it to know the truth, I guess. Smiley: rolleyes


On io9 or gizmodo this past week they ran an article where the NSA confirmed that, although it was rare, agents looking into peoples' romantic lives was the most common breech of protocol.

Whether or not that means they read couples' disgustingly sweet texts to each other and laugh, or turn on your webcam to watch you have *** touch yourself, I'll leave everyone's imaginations to decide for themselves.
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Listen, if you're not satisfied wit the way our relationship is going, we can talk about it. There's no need to do this thinly veiled sniping sh*t you always pull.

I thought this why u luv me.


It's the ***.
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Whether or not that means they read couples' disgustingly sweet texts to each other and laugh, or turn on your webcam to watch you have *** touch yourself,
Both.
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Try using a Twitch.
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Sorry.
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Sorry.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:

I'm fine with him going to a woman's prison. I'm fine for paying for hormone therapy. I'm fine paying for the therapy bills along the way. And if his therapist rules it's vital to his mental health to be able to surgically reassign his genitalia, then sure.

I don't particularly care. Next to the price of housing him in prison, it's pretty negligible.

I have to disagree here. If Manning can't afford the therapy and/or surgery too bad they don't get it. Unless, of course, everybody in the US gets this done for free who needs it.
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Sorry.
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TLW has two settings, Unpathalogically Perverse, or Arty. NSFW.

NSFW

But Arty. Classy, even.
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Unless, of course, everybody in the US gets this done for free who needs it.
I could use a set of tits.

Not implanted, just to play hackey sack with.
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Sorry.
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TLW has two settings, Unpathalogically Perverse, or Arty. NSFW.

NSFW

But Arty. Classy, even.
It's not even NSFW, well, kinda... sort of.
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Tsk. Tsk. Oh, deary deary me. Your words would have carried tad more weight, if you were able to use conditional clauses properly, See what I did there, Mr. Articulate?

In other news, NSA apparently our brave analysts watched True Lies and decided to abuse its power to spy on their exes to the extent that they created interagency category "loveint."

I forgot, me being old and all, which one of you was arguing again that there were no abuses?
Of course there are abuses.

But, how have the actions of the NSA negatively impacted you ...or more importantly me?

You've yet to make the reveal.
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I'd go to more public readings if all the authors had to sit on a Sybian machine.
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