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#202 Jul 12 2013 at 2:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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#203 Jul 12 2013 at 3:20 PM Rating: Good
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#204 Jul 12 2013 at 5:45 PM Rating: Default
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My Facebook is full of blacked-out pictures in reference to this case.

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You eat sausage?
#205 Jul 12 2013 at 8:01 PM Rating: Good
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Prosecution is essentially throwing spaghetti against a wall and hoping it sticks because neither side has an airtight case, and a tie is a win for Zimmerman.
Now that you brought it up, I bet this makes the inevitable civil lawsuit a lot more interesting since the burden of proof is lower. Smiley: rolleyes

Never ending dramas... Smiley: popcorn

Soon he'll be out on the golf course with O.J. looking for the *real* killer!
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#206 Jul 12 2013 at 8:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Debalic wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
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Prosecution is essentially throwing spaghetti against a wall and hoping it sticks because neither side has an airtight case, and a tie is a win for Zimmerman.
Now that you brought it up, I bet this makes the inevitable civil lawsuit a lot more interesting since the burden of proof is lower. Smiley: rolleyes

Never ending dramas... Smiley: popcorn

Soon he'll be out on the golf course with O.J. looking for the *real* killer!


Well, that will solve the OJ problem. Zimmerman will think that dark man is up to no good, walking around that high class golf course like he belongs there or something...
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#207 Jul 13 2013 at 8:01 PM Rating: Good
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Reports are coming in "Not Guilty"

Edited, Jul 13th 2013 7:02pm by stupidmonkey
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#208 Jul 13 2013 at 8:27 PM Rating: Default
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My facebook is an uproar! Sad day, but funny stuff to read.
#209 Jul 13 2013 at 8:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, let's hope he doesn't take this as a carte blanche.

Seriously, it was a hard case to prove. I don't know that I would have voted differently, had I access to all the evidence and testimony.
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#210 Jul 13 2013 at 9:09 PM Rating: Default
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Well, let's hope he doesn't take this as a carte blanche.

Seriously, it was a hard case to prove. I don't know that I would have voted differently, had I access to all the evidence and testimony.


The severity indeed is a hard thing to prove; however, knowing that Zimmerman actions created the scenario is not.
#211 Jul 13 2013 at 9:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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I would at least like to see something like this require his placement on the firearm ownership "NO" list. Even if acquitted, the actions were questionable enough that I don't think he should be trusted in a concealed carry situation. I know that the acquittal erases that possibility, but I don't think it should.

The question that remains, and that will likely spark the most vocal reaction to this verdict is: What if Martin had been a young white(ish) girl, and Zimmerman a black man. That's the duality of our justice system that this verdict will shine the spotlight on. It's not incredibly difficult to imagine the opposite verdict in such a scenario, and many will feel like justice ran afoul simply because Martin was a victim here of not only Zimmerman, but his own skin color.
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#212 Jul 13 2013 at 9:55 PM Rating: Default
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Well, I'm trying not to interject race into the matter, but anyone who believes that the "system" doesn't favor people based on irrelevant factors is deceived.

I have one concern.

Does Zimmerman even get a "slap on the wrist" for killing someone that he could have prevented killing?
#213 Jul 13 2013 at 10:08 PM Rating: Good
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Zimmerman gets confronted by a friend or family member of Trayvon. Confrontor deliberatly loses fight. Zimmerman gets shot and killed.


Justice.

ALSO: Totaly legal in Florida.
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#214 Jul 13 2013 at 10:29 PM Rating: Default
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Well that family member has to make sure that the shots kill zimmerman, because if they are just "warning shots", you'll get 20 years in prison..

Good 'ol Florida..
#215 Jul 14 2013 at 12:22 AM Rating: Good
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I really want to cry. I know I wasn't in the courtroom, and I didn't see the evidence presented there, but I really think that justice was not done in this case, and I feel sick about it. Strict logic is probably not on my side, but I'm angry and distressed by what I think I know happened in this case, and that Zimmerman is not going to jail for a long long long time.
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#216 Jul 14 2013 at 12:46 AM Rating: Default
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I really want to cry. I know I wasn't in the courtroom, and I didn't see the evidence presented there, but I really think that justice was not done in this case, and I feel sick about it. Strict logic is probably not on my side, but I'm angry and distressed by what I think I know happened in this case, and that Zimmerman is not going to jail for a long long long time.


I understand the frustration, but you can't let emotions overtake logic. I don't believe that logic was used in this case; however, showing emotion as a counter only fuels people like Gbaji.
#217 Jul 14 2013 at 1:04 AM Rating: Good
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I believe I'm neither letting emotions overtake logic, or that showing emotion is "only" going to fuel people like gbaji. I had a strong emotional reaction to Zimmerman's aquital. I acknowledged that emotion publicly in words. I acknowledged that my emotion was probably affecting my logic skills. I acknowledged that there's two very different types of "knowledge" that I can have about the Martic/Zimmerman case: that of a person who knows the circumstances only through the filter of the media and other people, and the knowledge equal to that of a juror seeing all the evidence presented in the courtroom. Knowledge being different in both cases from the Facts of what actually happened that night. In my opinion, from what I know personally, I suspect that if the world was just, and if my suspicions about what happened that night were factually correct, then Zimmerman should be convicted and punished for murder. Manslaughter at the very least for pursuing someone with a gun when directed not to by a police dispatcher, who knew that Zimmerman was carrying a gun.
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#218 Jul 14 2013 at 1:14 AM Rating: Default
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I think manslaughter is reasonable.
#219 Jul 14 2013 at 2:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think manslaughter is reasonable.


Quoted out of context for posterity Smiley: lol
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#221 Jul 14 2013 at 5:01 AM Rating: Good
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#222 Jul 14 2013 at 7:03 AM Rating: Good
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How sad we're devolving as a country and a species.

#gbajisright. In america a gun is the 'great equalizer'.

Any recommendations on good hand-gun? I might feel the need to exert my god-given rights.
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#223 Jul 14 2013 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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How sad we're devolving as a country and a species.


The verdict certainly seems to be giving gbaji an erectus.
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Of course, we all know republicans are in favour of national devolution.

See, it's a states' rights joke.
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How sad we're devolving as a country and a species.

#gbajisright. In america a gun is the 'great equalizer'.

Any recommendations on good hand-gun? I might feel the need to exert my god-given rights.


On Friday, Texas was confiscating tampons and pads from purses for people trying to enter the floor or gallery of the capitol, in case they threw them and caused a disturbance. GUNS were still allowed. In the capitol building. Where they were taking a controversial vote.

Americans are ******* stupid.

In the wake of this, what was really disturbing was to see the statistics on how disproportionately SYG laws clear white shooters as opposed to POC shooters (particularly black) in the US. According to this PBS article,

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In non-Stand Your Ground states, whites are 250 percent more likely to be found justified in killing a black person than a white person who kills another white person; in Stand Your Ground states, that number jumps to 354 percent.


Yet we don't need things like the Voters Rights Act. It's not like the act had been used to block racially-biased legislation in Texas the year before it was struck down for no longer being applicable. And it's not like Texas didn't enact those new changes immediately after it was repealed.
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#226 Jul 14 2013 at 9:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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