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#302 Feb 15 2012 at 5:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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His paragraphs are padded with more questions than my post count is with one liners.
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#303 Feb 15 2012 at 6:21 PM Rating: Good
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Except for your regular use of vague statements which imply something, but don't come out and say it plainly, followed by you dancing around any attempt to get you to clarify your position. Being so vague that no one can pin you down on a position doesn't actually mean you "win" the argument.
You do realize you just described your own and Alma's posting style, right?


I've been accused of a lot of things, but being vague isn't one of them. I write multiple paragraphs in order to clearly and completely describe what I'm talking about. Seems like you're stretching for the irony here.


False.

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Edited, Feb 16th 2012 12:21am by Kavekk
#304 Feb 15 2012 at 6:26 PM Rating: Default
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I think everyone on this board will agree with me that you have never clearly and completely described anything.


Never? Bit of a stretch. I'm far far more clear about what I'm saying than most posters on this forum.

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Yes, you write multiple paragraphs. But they are always doing exactly what Bijou is accusing you of. Long posts are more capable of obfuscating an issue than short ones.


Always? Long posts involve more information. If I write the same thing 3 different ways, the odds that someone will understand what I'm saying is increased, not decreased. That some people deliberately choose to ignore all three and take them in context on occasion in order to create a strawman to argue against doesn't mean that I wasn't abundantly clear. When you read the entirety of what I write it's not hard to find the common meaning.


That can't possibly be harder to figure out than the down right cryptic stuff that Lolgaxe does.
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#305 Feb 15 2012 at 6:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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In any event, surely the 'gbaji writes far more than is necessary' argument is, and has been for a long time, over?

You do write more than is necessary to convey your opinion. It seems that more time is used defending the length of post than is on the defence of the posts opinion.

(I was thinking, I may give these +1's a shot. Amidoinitrite?)
#306 Feb 15 2012 at 7:09 PM Rating: Good
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In any event, surely the 'gbaji writes far more than is necessary' argument is, and has been for a long time, over?

You do write more than is necessary to convey your opinion. It seems that more time is used defending the length of post than is on the defence of the posts opinion.

(I was thinking, I may give these +1's a shot. Amidoinitrite?)


Not bad, but a witty one-liner would be better.
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#307 Feb 15 2012 at 7:26 PM Rating: Good
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Ah, but I want to make Guru!

(Pretty sure Idoneitrite? :P)
#308 Feb 15 2012 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Kavekk wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Friar Bijou wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Except for your regular use of vague statements which imply something, but don't come out and say it plainly, followed by you dancing around any attempt to get you to clarify your position. Being so vague that no one can pin you down on a position doesn't actually mean you "win" the argument.
You do realize you just described your own and Alma's posting style, right?


I've been accused of a lot of things, but being vague isn't one of them. I write multiple paragraphs in order to clearly and completely describe what I'm talking about. Seems like you're stretching for the irony here.


False.


Consider the source. Smash attempting to reinterpret what I said by labeling it "oblique" doesn't actually make it so. In the same way posters in this thread saying the same thing doesn't either. The argument I was making was absolutely clear. What's funny is that the same link provides a perfect example of what I was talking about how some posters choose to deliberately ignore parts of my post that clarify my meaning in order to make a response to a contrived strawman.


That happens many times more often than someone claiming that I'm vague.
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#309 Feb 15 2012 at 8:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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I would wager that most people believe that what they write is clear. Just saying.
#310gbaji, Posted: Feb 15 2012 at 8:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) False. When someone makes a point about post length, it's usually because they don't want to address the context of the post itself. I happen to think that someone is a moron if they hold a position but are unwilling to even consider a counter position because it's "too long, didn't read". How good can your position be if you choose it apparently based on the shortness and simplicity of its explanation
#311 Feb 15 2012 at 8:25 PM Rating: Default
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I would wager that most people believe that what they write is clear. Just saying.


/shrug

But everything else being equal, the guy spending 5 paragraphs explaining his position is less likely to be misunderstood than the guy who writes one short sentence.
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#312 Feb 15 2012 at 8:41 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
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You do write more than is necessary to convey your opinion. It seems that more time is used defending the length of post than is on the defence of the posts opinion.


False. When someone makes a point about post length, it's usually because they don't want to address the context of the post itself. I happen to think that someone is a moron if they hold a position but are unwilling to even consider a counter position because it's "too long, didn't read". How good can your position be if you choose it apparently based on the shortness and simplicity of its explanation

That's kinda less a defense of my lengthy posts as an attack on those who claim to be educated and intelligent but who fail to show such qualities in practice.


So what does it mean when someone makes a post complaing about people who complain about post length? No, you never try to confuse issues at all.
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#313 Feb 15 2012 at 8:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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That's kinda less a defense of my lengthy posts as an attack on those who claim to be educated and intelligent but who fail to show such qualities in practice.
Being long winded doesn't indicate intelligence nor any level of education. Really, when it's done correctly all it shows is an inability to make their own thoughts concise. A good speaker can convey their thoughts in a concise manner. Though, that requires an accepting audience. I'll get back to that point in a moment. However, you fail at even that. A majority of the your paragraphs are just a series of questions that don't actually explain anything, but alleviates you from having to think for yourself and instead attempts to fool your audience into doing the thinking for you. Finally, seeing as how you're never interested in discussion of any sort, but to go at lengths to say "GBAJI RIGHT, YOU IS WRONG," it makes the length of your posts pretty irrelevant. They're all the same. You're right, everyone else is wrong. Even when you're so wrong that there is no possibly reasonable way an adult could argue out of it, you still try to argue out of it. The most innocuous error on your behalf must be, in actuality, someone else's error. So really, it's a waste of time for everyone else to post long winded, when you've already decided going in that you're right and that's final.

Now, I said that it also requires an accepting audience. You're not an accepting audience. That's been proven, time and time again. Basically, it's a waste of time for everyone else to write more than one or two sentences since you're already at your conclusion. It's where you start. There is no discussion. You're not interested. All you do is trumpet whatever pro-Republican or anti-Democrat view point you can find. You're a one trick pony, and just because you can draw it out doesn't make it impressive, nor does it really show intelligence.

Take this post for example. You started at the first letter and have already concluded that what I say after that first letter of the first word is wrong, and your view point is the correct one. I just wasted time. Yours and mine. It wasn't intelligent on my behalf, nor does it show a higher tier of education than just simply calling you a moron. Now, you're welcome to say that this last paragraph is false, but I've personally had months of witnessing this behavior, and others have had years. It's funny, but I'm willing to go out on a limb and bet that that story about the cousin that reminds you of me reminds them of you. Notice how time, and time again you come in and say something and no one agrees? Maybe that brilliant analysis isn't nearly as brilliant as you thought it was.

Edited, Feb 16th 2012 10:54am by lolgaxe
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#314 Feb 15 2012 at 9:01 PM Rating: Excellent
gbaji wrote:
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I would wager that most people believe that what they write is clear. Just saying.


/shrug

But everything else being equal, the guy spending 5 paragraphs explaining his position is less likely to be misunderstood than the guy who writes one short sentence.


Yep.
#315 Feb 15 2012 at 9:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Careful with being subtle. It makes his starfish pucker up something fierce.
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#316 Feb 15 2012 at 9:08 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
False. When someone makes a point about post length, it's usually because they don't want to address the context of the post itself. I happen to think that someone is a moron if they hold a position but are unwilling to even consider a counter position because it's "too long, didn't read".


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Edited, Feb 15th 2012 10:10pm by Skinwah
#317 Feb 15 2012 at 9:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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False. When someone makes a point about post length, it's usually because they don't want to address the context of the post itself. I happen to think that someone is a moron if they hold a position but are unwilling to even consider a counter position because it's "too long, didn't read".
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#318 Feb 15 2012 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
I don't read gbaji posts over a paragraph anymore.

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#319 Feb 15 2012 at 9:16 PM Rating: Good
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I don't read gbaji posts over a paragraph anymore.

Kick me in the balls twenty thousand times, shame on you. Kick me in the balls twenty thousand and one times...


Yeah, I don't either. I might skim quickly through the first sentences after quotes, but that's about it. Generally speaking, that's usually enough to poke a hole in his argument. :P
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#320 Feb 16 2012 at 1:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
When you read the entirety of what I write it's not hard to find the common meaning.
That you're an elitist, misogynistic, classist with a heart of stone? Yeah, that's pretty clear.


You probably kick puppies, too.
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#321 Feb 16 2012 at 4:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
I don't read gbaji posts over a paragraph anymore.

Kick me in the balls twenty thousand times, shame on you. Kick me in the balls twenty thousand and one times...


Yeah, I don't either. I might skim quickly through the first sentences after quotes, but that's about it.
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#322 Feb 16 2012 at 8:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Long posts involve more information.

No, long posts involve more words.
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#323 Feb 16 2012 at 9:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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#324 Feb 16 2012 at 10:12 AM Rating: Excellent
Gbaji- No one's accused me of being vague!
Kaveek- Here's a link to someone calling you vague!
Gbaji- Consider the source!

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#325 Feb 16 2012 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
I don't read gbaji posts over a paragraph anymore.

Kick me in the balls twenty thousand times, shame on you. Kick me in the balls twenty thousand and one times...


Yeah, I don't either. I might skim quickly through the first sentences after quotes, but that's about it.
Smiley: lol That's funny, because that's what I do with you.


Yeah, I can get long-winded at times... I really need to work on that. :P

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#326 Feb 16 2012 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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I look forward to when Gbaji cites himself as a source proving that lolgaxe is a master of obfuscation.
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