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#902 Mar 12 2012 at 6:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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While Texas complicates things, the GOP did change their primary system this cycle. Traditionally, each state was winner-takes-all. The GOP decided that any state having its primary before April 1st would be proportionally divided in delegates. Those after April 1 could go winner-takes-all. This was done because some people felt that McCain won too quickly last cycle and they would have done better with a more conservative candidate. Ironically, now we have two conservatives (according to the voters anyway) splitting the vote and letting the "not-conservative" take the nomination. Best laid plans...

As the for the delegate division thing, some states are getting around it in various ways. Some have had "non-binding" caucuses where, realistically, the delegates will be given to whoever won the caucus. Florida just said "fuck you" and moved its primary to when it felt like and declared it winner-takes-all.
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the GOP deliberately changed their primary schedule and methodology so as to avoid an early win scenario.

So a major delegate state like Texas having its primary schedule pushed back because the GOP failed to prove their original redistricting map didn't discriminate against minorities was a deliberate change? Those cunning bastards.


Texas is just one state. Last time around, California (also a big delegate state) held its primary on Feb 5th. This time around? We're scheduled for June 5th. So 4 months later. The whole schedule was shifted to spread out the state races so that it would take longer for a final winner to be declared. My point is that it's absurd to ignore the relative states and/or delegates won to this point and instead focus on how many weeks we are into the process.


That's literally the only rationale behind the "Romney can't seal the deal" position. It has nothing to do with percentage of states won or delegates assigned relative to his opponents. By that measurement, he's wiping the floor with the competition. It's entirely about the fact that in 2008, McCain had the nomination sewn up by mid Feb. Of course, that ignores the fact that by that point in 2008, they'd already had 29 state races. Interestingly enough, McCain was only one race ahead of Romney back then (he had won 12, Romney 11, and Huckabee 6). But it's the delegates that mattered. After super Tuesday that year (Feb 5h), McCain had won 694 delegates, Romney had 280, and Huckabee had 187.


Interestingly enough, McCain's delegate ratio was nearly identical to Romney's (right around 60%). His state win percentage was lower than Romney's is right now (significantly lower). The ratio between his delegates and the second place guy at that time was also lower than Romney's is today compared to Santorum. Why was he at that point considered an unbeatable candidate? For only one reason. The total number of states and the total number of delegates awarded was higher at that point in time. He was closer to the finish line. But not because he performed better than Romney is this time around, but entirely because more states with a higher percentage of the total delegates held their primaries in the first month of the season.


That's it. Romney is not, by any objective calculation, doing poorly. He's doing astoundingly well, in fact. It is only when you ignore the relative performance and look only at the date on the calendar that you can make even the weakest argument that he's failing to get it done somehow. And not surprisingly, that's *exactly* the claim being made loudly and repeatedly by pretty much every media source in the country. But if you ignore what the idiot on your TV says and look at the actual facts, he's way ahead. Monstrously ahead.
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While Texas complicates things, the GOP did change their primary system this cycle. Traditionally, each state was winner-takes-all. The GOP decided that any state having its primary before April 1st would be proportionally divided in delegates. Those after April 1 could go winner-takes-all. This was done because some people felt that McCain won too quickly last cycle and they would have done better with a more conservative candidate.


So.... Given that Romney has a nearly identical delegate percentage relative to the rest of the field compared to McCain, shouldn't that suggest that he's an even stronger candidate? Fewer winner takes all states early in the race, right? Given his much better state-win record, we should assume he would be doing much much better in terms of delegates at this point. Still confirms my point IMO.


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Ironically, now we have two conservatives (according to the voters anyway) splitting the vote and letting the "not-conservative" take the nomination. Best laid plans...


Ironic only if you accept your stated reasoning and play some games with the definition of "more conservative". I'm quite sure if someone else were leading, you'd be parroting the folks on your TV who told you that he was the "non-conservative" in the race. Makes the irony kinda meaningless when you can twist the definitions and labels after the fact to make it seem ironic no matter what's actually happening.


They wanted to produce the strongest candidate possible. They wanted to avoid short term opinion swings from having large effects on delegate count and thus the nominated candidate. And they wanted more media attention to their candidates and their process. And frankly, the changes have worked pretty much as advertised. There have been a few swings over the course of the process, but they have not had the same impact as they might have had in a more impacted season. Gingrich got a massive bump in popularity after the CNN debate question about his ex wife, but it only equated to one win because there was only one primary within a week of that happening. In a more compressed season, instead of just winning SC, he might have picked up 4 or 5 states from just that bump. Similarly, Santorum got a decent bump right when he swept three otherwise minor states. But that bump didn't last even to the next round of primaries.


It changes the strategy quite a bit. The traditional strategy is to time a bump right before a big primary day, use that bump to win several states, and then ride the fact that you just won a bunch of states on to win even more. It's all about timing that swing and the whole nomination often hinges on a single event. With the more protracted primary season it's about consistent performance. The voters are given more time between events and state contests to consider the whole picture and not just the emotions of the moment. This produces a better result IMO. Slow and steady wins the race, not a well timed bump.

Romney is winning because when conservatives take the time to think things through, he's the obvious candidate to go against Obama.

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As the for the delegate division thing, some states are getting around it in various ways. Some have had "non-binding" caucuses where, realistically, the delegates will be given to whoever won the caucus. Florida just said "fuck you" and moved its primary to when it felt like and declared it winner-takes-all.


To be fair, several states have done this (to some degree). Or they have proportional delegate assignment that is so heavily swung towards the winner that it's pretty much a winner takes all anyway. But also, there were a number like that last time around as well. Winner takes all doesn't always mean winner takes all. It just means "most" a lot of the time.
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Fair to who? Florida? The GOP?

Florida intentionally broke the rules, that's all. I mentioned that other states had worked around the delegate rules but I doubt Allegory was looking for a full state by state treatment.
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Fair to who? Florida? The GOP?


Fair to anyone who might disagree with my own statements. I made an argument that the changes in delegate rules (specifically the winner-takes-all rules) has acted as a disadvantage to Romney and that given the number of states he'd won he would have an even larger delegate lead if the same rules were in effect as last time around. This means that he's arguably a much stronger candidate than he appears by delegate count (and he's pretty strong by that measure already).

But ... to be fair, several states have found ways around the rule changes *and* not all the states used a winner-takes-all system last time around. When I did the delegate tallies earlier, there were a lot of (semi) proportional states in that first 29 state contests. I don't feel like sitting here and calculating ratios and whatnot, but I figured I'd be "fair" and point out that it's not as much of a night and day change as one might think.


Re-reading it, I acknowledge that it wasn't completely clear what I was talking about. Hopefully, that clarifies things.

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It's always possible that Florida didn't understand the rules.

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#908 Mar 13 2012 at 2:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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Fair to anyone who might disagree with my own statements.
Well, that narrows the field down.
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#909 Mar 13 2012 at 7:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Romney is not, by any objective calculation, doing poorly. He's doing astoundingly well, in fact.
While he's not doing poorly, there's no way anyone bound to reality could possibly be deluded into believing he's doing "astoundingly well" either.
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Nonsense. If you take Gingrich's wins and give them to Romney, he's doing better than Reagan!
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Romney is not, by any objective calculation, doing poorly. He's doing astoundingly well, in fact.
While he's not doing poorly, there's no way anyone bound to reality could possibly be deluded into believing he's doing "astoundingly well" either.


Aside from your statement being completely backwards, you're right. Lol!

Anyone who looks at the actual state win ratio or the delegate ratio will conclude he's doing astoundingly well. As I just showed, he's got a better relative win ratio than McCain had, and he was considered such a lock so early that it was a "boring" primary. Romney is only slightly behind Reagan relatively speaking.

I'm honestly curious what would qualify as 'astoundingly well' if having 3 times more delegates than the next closest contender doesn't.
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Aside from your statement being completely backwards, you're right. Lol!
Blah blah blah hive mind blah blah blah. If you're not going to think for yourself, I'm not going to waste time either.
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gbaji wrote:
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Romney is not, by any objective calculation, doing poorly. He's doing astoundingly well, in fact.
While he's not doing poorly, there's no way anyone bound to reality could possibly be deluded into believing he's doing "astoundingly well" either.


Aside from your statement being completely backwards, you're right. Lol!

Anyone who looks at the actual state win ratio or the delegate ratio will conclude he's doing astoundingly well. As I just showed, he's got a better relative win ratio than McCain had, and he was considered such a lock so early that it was a "boring" primary. Romney is only slightly behind Reagan relatively speaking.

I'm honestly curious what would qualify as 'astoundingly well' if having 3 times more delegates than the next closest contender doesn't.


It's the fact that people, including the GOP itself, won't stop yapping about the other candidates. It's not just the "media" it's all the people they're interviewing, as well. The party faithful are silently voting for Romney, as their robot overlord has commanded, but the last vestiges of think-for-yourselfers are rebelling against him.
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It's the fact that people, including the GOP itself, won't stop yapping about the other candidates.


How much and what you hear depends on the media coverage though, doesn't it? Of course some member of the GOP are going to talk about this candidate, or that candidate. That's part of any primary season. The issue is how the media covers that, and what focus it puts on different angles. The media story has been "Romney can't get it done" for at least 6 months now (longer really). So any talk by anyone about other candidates is presented to the audience within that context.

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It's not just the "media" it's all the people they're interviewing, as well.


*cough*. They choose who to interview. Think about it.

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The party faithful are silently voting for Romney, as their robot overlord has commanded, but the last vestiges of think-for-yourselfers are rebelling against him.


Lol. Those who believe Romney is the best candidate to represent the GOP in the presidential race (which is a large majority of conservatives), are ignoring what the media is saying and voting for Romney, and frankly standing around wondering why the hell every media story about Romney is about how poorly he's doing even though he's winning resoundingly in the actual primaries. The point isn't about whether fringe folks oppose Romney (as your "last vestiges of think-for-yourselfers") would suggest. It's that the media is painting this as though the majority doesn't support Romney, and that Romney isn't doing well, or that he should be doing better, or a dozen different takes on this that all seem to bear no resemblance at all to the reality of the contest.



Look at the numbers. Forget the media coverage. Ignore the names. If I were to show you just the numbers, absent names, would you honestly think anything other than "hey. That guys kicking everyone else's butt!"? I seriously doubt it. And if you honestly looked at the numbers, you'd have to conclude the same. Why? Because he is kicking everyone's butt.
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Look at the numbers. Forget the media coverage. Ignore the names. If I were to show you just the numbers, absent names, would you honestly think anything other than "hey. That guys kicking everyone else's butt!"? I seriously doubt it. And if you honestly looked at the numbers, you'd have to conclude the same. Why? Because he is kicking everyone's butt.

Does this assume I'm completely ignorant of the primary schedule and delegation selection?
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I will say that if Romney does exceptionally well tonight and in Illinois, he'll be in better shape to wrap things up. The issue isn't, as Gbaji keeps wanting to frame it, that he's terribly bad. It's that he's running a course where it's entirely possible to hit the convention without enough delegates to have "won" before reaching it. There's a zero percent chance that anyone else would get it instead but it would be really bad to get to Tampa without having sewn it up.

Strong performances tonight and next week would give him enough inevitability to demoralize the Santorum & Gingrich crowds that Romney will increase his shares going forward. Not that beating a couple jamokes who weren't even seriously running prior to 6-8 weeks ago is anything to put on your gravestone but you take what you can get.
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Offered without comment: RMoney came in third in Alabama and Mississippi tonight.
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Yeah, that wasn't my definition of "exceptional finish". Good night for Santorum though. Beat Gingrich in both states.

Quasi-related, I read that Romney & his super PAC have spent a combined $3.5 million on ad time in Illinois. I thought "I haven't seen a single ad yet" and then immediately saw on when I walked into the family room with the TV on.
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Yeah, that wasn't my definition of "exceptional finish".
Hey, coming in third out of four places is astoundingly well.
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If you just took Santorum's wins and gave them to Romney, it'd be the strongest performance of 40 years.
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Santorum, who has also failed to reach the ballot in Washington, D.C., Virginia, and parts of Ohio, fell short of the required signatures in 10 of the state's 18 congressional districts —and didn't submit any in four of them — Romney's campaign confirmed.

But Illinois Treasurer and Romney state chairman Dan Rutherford withdrew challenges in those districts, allowing Santorum the opportunity to win 30 delegates he would have missed out on.
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Oh give it up already. You know if you just ignore the media coverage, the press conferences, the numbers, the campaigning techniques, and reality in general you'd clearly so how obvious it was that Romney is doing astoundingly well.
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Mitt Romney could have assured himself victory months in advance in the now-crucial primary state of Illinois, but instead his Illinois campaign operation chose to allow Rick Santorum's delegates to remain on the ballot despite a failure to meet signature requirements.

Santorum, who has also failed to reach the ballot in Washington, D.C., Virginia, and parts of Ohio, fell short of the required signatures in 10 of the state's 18 congressional districts —and didn't submit any in four of them — Romney's campaign confirmed.

But Illinois Treasurer and Romney state chairman Dan Rutherford withdrew challenges in those districts, allowing Santorum the opportunity to win 30 delegates he would have missed out on.


Smiley: dubious Am I missing something? Why would they do this?
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Realistically because if they had then the Santorum people would use it to say Romney is purposely trying to keep people off the ballot because they're afraid of the competition.
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There's grumbling that Rutherford wants to run for IL governor in a couple years and doesn't want to upset any GOP voting blocs.
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Just watched Game Change. Had to make myself a stiff drink halfway through (an Old Fashioned.) Slurring my words now, but all I can do is hope and pray that RMoney or Ayatollah Santorum come up with someone even halfway as entertaining is Silly Sarah.
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I have Game Change saved but haven't watched it yet. I wasn't going to bother with it since I'd read the book and thought carving out the McCain/Palin story didn't do it justice and I didn't need to see some Palin hit-piece. It was actually the response the next day on the AM radio morning show that had me interested -- rather than bitching about how horrible the elite liberal Hollywood machine was for making it, the hosts agreed that it displayed Palin as horribly unprepared and unqualified rather than purely inept and retarded.

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As I’ve said before, if this continues onward, Romney won’t get 1,144 delegates until June, if at all.
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I keep seeing it appear on the guide, but the few times I want to actually watch TV there's always something more interesting than Palin on.
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I listened to it on tv while playing computer games. I had a hard time reconciling the whole Julianne Moore being Sarah Palin. I just kept thinking she was spoofing Tina Fey satirizing Sarah Palin.
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I keep seeing it appear on the guide, but the few times I want to actually watch TV there's always something more interesting than Palin on.

If this is the criterion you're working on, it's going to be a very long time before you ever watch Palin.
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We watched it last week or so.

I kind of felt like "what's the point?" The movie doesn't really suggest anything new. The fiance thought that it made Palin look a bit more sympathetic, I thought that it made her look bi-polar and, at times, devious and manic. It was a bit all-over-the-place with the characterization, to the point where it was hard to take some moments seriously. Woody Harrelson was frustrated. Ed Harris was vaguely disconnected from the proceedings. That's about it.

It was kind of dumb.

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News is that Santorum failed to file for full slates of delegates in... Pennsylvania. His home state. So despite leading by double digits, he's still going to cede delegates without a fight.

Showing once again that Santorum was not serious when he entered the race and his spot as the favored "Non-Romney" candidate took him by surprise.
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I don't get it personally. Ignoring his stance on a variety of things I don't agree with, how do people support him when he doesn't file the proper paperwork? It's not like he missed one or two, it has been a tremendous amount considering his apparent popularity. "Boy that guy can't file paperwork for beans but he sure loves his religion and hates butt secs so he has my vote!" Smiley: facepalm
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What I can't decide is whether he's the spoiler for Gingrich, or the other way 'round.
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Anyone want to bet on whether one of the two will take a VP slot to form the almighty NotRomneytron?
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Anyone want to bet on whether one of the two will take a VP slot to form the almighty NotRomneytron?


You mean the somewhat moderate GOP presidential candidate will get a crazy super conservative running mate and hurt his chances with the moderates?

Didn't that happen before? Or did they think they needed to go MORE super conservative, and that was the problem?

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I don't get it personally. Ignoring his stance on a variety of things I don't agree with, how do people support him when he doesn't file the proper paperwork? It's not like he missed one or two, it has been a tremendous amount considering his apparent popularity. "Boy that guy can't file paperwork for beans but he sure loves his religion and hates butt secs so he has my vote!" Smiley: facepalm


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I don't get it personally. Ignoring his stance on a variety of things I don't agree with, how do people support him when he doesn't file the proper paperwork? It's not like he missed one or two, it has been a tremendous amount considering his apparent popularity.

He wasn't popular though until Iowa after Cain dropped out and Perry made a fool of himself at the debates and Gingrich was on his popularity roller coaster. Santorum, by all appearances, got into the race just to raise his national profile and try to restore his political image after losing his senatorial re-election campaign by 20 points in 2008. He didn't work to build a national campaign and by the time it looked as though he'd need one, he didn't have the manpower or money for it. Ballot petitions take people in those areas to canvass for signatures, those people require coordination which means a central state office ($) with paid staffers ($$). Compared to Romney who has done nothing but run for president since 2007 with the backing of party establishment types to build a strong infrastructure. It's the difference between someone who decides to go to college and meets with the adviser each semester, has a list of all the required classes and what would transfer, etc and someone who just dicks around and picks random classes each year until it's nine months to "graduation", he still hasn't taken his science requirements and he's begging professors to let him enter their full classes.

Part of it is still his own direct doing, though. Even after his rise, he thought he could be "different" from those "Washington types" with a decentralized campaign. I know GOPers just hate conventional wisdom and what the experts say and stuff but there's a reason why analysts look at this stuff when guessing who has the best chances. As for why he still gets support, I suppose it's a healthy mix of (A) has no idea this stuff is going on, (B) buys into "He's just running a different campaign from those career politicians", (C) he isn't Willard 'Mitt' Romney and (D) is really against butt sex.
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You mean the somewhat moderate GOP presidential candidate will get a crazy super conservative running mate and hurt his chances with the moderates?

Didn't that happen before? Or did they think they needed to go MORE super conservative, and that was the problem?

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Romney is the moderate candidate already.
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#942 Mar 17 2012 at 5:24 AM Rating: Good
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Anyone want to bet on whether one of the two will take a VP slot to form the almighty NotRomneytron?


You mean the somewhat moderate GOP presidential candidate will get a crazy super conservative running mate and hurt his chances with the moderates?

Didn't that happen before? Or did they think they needed to go MORE super conservative, and that was the problem?

Edited, Mar 16th 2012 8:58pm by TirithRR


Romney is the moderate candidate already.


Romney's adaptive. His views are what ever it takes to get him elected.

Other than the pandering to the far right during this primary season, I think he's more moderate than Newt and Santorum.

Edit:
I read that as a question, yet... there was no question mark.
I guess I don't know what you are getting at. I thought you were saying someone was going to be Romney's VP...

Edited, Mar 17th 2012 7:29am by TirithRR
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He's a political creature. Assuming the GOP controls the House, he'll do whatever they tell him to do. I wouldn't expect him to be some bulwark against GOP extremism given his comments this cycle while trying to gain their love.
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#944 Mar 17 2012 at 8:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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TirithRR wrote:
Timelordwho wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Timelordwho wrote:
Anyone want to bet on whether one of the two will take a VP slot to form the almighty NotRomneytron?


You mean the somewhat moderate GOP presidential candidate will get a crazy super conservative running mate and hurt his chances with the moderates?

Didn't that happen before? Or did they think they needed to go MORE super conservative, and that was the problem?

Edited, Mar 16th 2012 8:58pm by TirithRR


Romney is the moderate candidate already.


Romney's adaptive. His views are what ever it takes to get him elected.

Other than the pandering to the far right during this primary season, I think he's more moderate than Newt and Santorum.

Edit:
I read that as a question, yet... there was no question mark.
I guess I don't know what you are getting at. I thought you were saying someone was going to be Romney's VP...

Edited, Mar 17th 2012 7:29am by TirithRR


No, I'm saying that Romney already had the moderate factions locked up in sensibility and meh factor. The other two would need to make some sort of super pact and combine their more extremist factions to one cohesive unit to actually contest this primary. The only question is who takes top slot, the adulterer who was kicked out of the legislature, or the guy who's the opposite of a policy wonk who really hates non-traditional marriage.

Now, this is still a hugely remote chance, but it's the only scenario I can see which is running at greater than a 0% chance to win a ticket slot, and I included one where Romney reveals that "He admires Hitler's methods for creating an efficient government."
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As for why he still gets support, I suppose it's a healthy mix of (A) has no idea this stuff is going on, (B) buys into "He's just running a different campaign from those career politicians", (C) he isn't Willard 'Mitt' Romney and (D) is really against butt sex.


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As for why he still gets support, I suppose it's a healthy mix of (A) has no idea this stuff is going on, (B) buys into "He's just running a different campaign from those career politicians", (C) he isn't Willard 'Mitt' Romney and (D) is really against butt sex.


Grass rootin', not aSS rootin'! Yeeeeeeee-haw!


I think violating a few gun laws would make him a more attractive candidate.
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He should go jogging and shoot some random wild life with a high powered shotgun.
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Santorum is way behind now in Illinois when he should be close to even. God only knows why he wasted the weekend campaigning in Puerto Rico. What a tard.

On the plus side, this solves my "which ballot to grab" problem nicely.
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On the plus side, this solves my "which ballot to grab" problem nicely.
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You can all blame Santorum's Illinois loss on me since I grabbed a Democratic ballot yesterday afternoon. And, as it turns out, only two races on the ballot were even contested and one was for Precinct Committeeman or some such. Maybe the 2016 GOP contest will drag out until Illinois again!

Unrelated to Illinois...
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You can all blame Santorum's Illinois loss on me ...


Your vote counts for 12% of the total primary voters? That's pretty darn impressive!
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