Don't ask, don't tell, don't persueFollow

You mean like every butch female that is "obviously" a lesbian?

That's the point of DADT. Just because you refuse to accept the fact that your understanding of the military was wrong, that isn't my problem.




You asked me what is my reason for homosexuals not to serve. I replied that I have no reason, that's why I support DADT. DADT makes it possible for homosexuals to serve. I've answered your question.



So answer me this. Where does "everyone must be clean shaven, unless you prescribe to a certain religion" fit in your definition of discrimination?

Post 1573.

Its not discrimination. It is actually 100% the opposite of discrimination.





I wonder who the military employer is. Would be strikingly awkward if it was the United States Government.

Edited, Dec 10th 2011 2:29pm by rdmcandie

The problem is the repeal of DADT.



But they are not. Not every religion is treated the same way. If I said that I practiced FSM and didn't have to shave, that would not fly because FSM isn't accepted by the military.

In either case, it's still discrimination because everyone isn't treated the same. Once again, you're in "justification mode". I'm not asking you for any justification. Is it or is it not discrimination? What you have provided is "yes, it is discrimination but is justified for reasons x,y and z". That's fine, as long as you accept the fact that not every religion is treated the same nor are the followers of different religions treated the same.


Fair would be "since religion x supports facial hair, then EVERYONE is allowed to have facial hair". Discrimination is "Only group x is allowed to have facial hair". How can you not see that?

If smokers are allowed to take 15 min breaks every hour, then fairness would be to allow EVERYONE to have 15 min breaks every hour. Discrimination is "only smokers are authorized 15 min breaks". Surely you see this and you're just to stubborn to admit that you're wrong.



Uh, the government isn't forcing you to join. If the government FORCED you to join, then made you cut off your hair, then you would have a point. Since that isn't the case, you don't have a point. If you think the military will allow you to do whatever you want under your religion, then you're truly an idiot. What would be the point of rules? I could just create a religion that allows me to do whatever I want, then you would have to abide by them.

Freedom of religion allows personnel to practice any religion without fear or threat of breaking any law. Rather or not your employer caters to your religion is a complete separate issue.

Bijou wins!

I'm glad you agree religion is a bunch of BS. I look forward to you not complaining about the "War on Christmas" in a few weeks with Alma and Varus. Unless of course Christianity is different because it's your religion?

You don't seem to understand that DADT was a special rule made for a certain group. Now it's gone.

Actually, you couldn't get kicked out under DADT if you were an out reservist because...well, we needed troops & maybe you were faking it.



http://web.archive.org/web/20080516002106/http://washblade.com/2005/9-23/news/national/outiraq.cfm



Edited, Dec 11th 2011 11:22am by Omegavegeta

Then what's the fucking problem?
Love and peace are probably better roads to God than any strict religious dogma bullshit. It's more or less what Jesus taught before someone realized that they could make a profit from making an organization out of it.

At least ten more pages.

Amateur.

I would love to argue with you about religion but your complete lack of knowledge on the creation of Christianity (thus God) astounds me. All we have to "proove" gods existance is a collection of stories written by ancient men. Voted on by a group of yet other ancient men to be placed into a book, that has since been fractured numerous times by yet more men.

Christianity is a man made religion, it is no more word of god then Hindu, or Muslim, or Jewish. Everything a Christian learns is the interpretation of events by another man. God didn't come down and publish the bible no more than the Qur'an, man wrote the stories of the bible, man wrote the stories of every religion. Man was the one who interpreted the signs of the times in such ways.

I understand you might have a hard on for Christianity and God. But don't honestly expect me to buy that the bible is any more divine oriented than any other major holy text in this world. It is an absolute croc. If anything the Bible and Christianity is the religion most influenced by man, it is the only one to have split as many times as it has, with each sect having their own rewritten version of the word of god.

Its all the same ****, it is man creating community for himself in effort to understand the harshness of death. It is the solitary belief amongst all men across all religions that life continues to go one forever. This belief doesn't stop at names, or symbols. Every major religion believes in a divine entity, and some for of after life, the story of understanding might be different but the end result is the same.

Also

ALLAH MEANS GOD YOU TWIT.

well isnt it obvious gays arent people.


(i hate being a poor typer)

Edited, Dec 12th 2011 7:34pm by rdmcandie