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#1 Aug 16 2011 at 7:15 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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Just one more reason why liberals should never have any power.

Food Stamps are now "Stimulus"

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I'm not surprised that liberals cannot admit their failed policies don't work and make the problem even worse (**** self denial is a required tool to be a liberal)what always amazes me is they try to make their failures seem noble and wonderful.
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We really need a [:stoptryingtohelpyouareonlymakingitworse:] smily.
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#4 Aug 16 2011 at 7:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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After your retarded phone story (which I noticed you ran away from without a response), I'm going to pass on wasting my time clicking this link. Have fun crying though!
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#5 Aug 16 2011 at 7:29 PM Rating: Good
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ThiefX wrote:
Just one more reason why liberals should never have any power.

Food Stamps are now "Stimulus"

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To be fair, this is not new. Pelosi made the exact same claim a year or so back.

It was just as ridiculous then, of course.
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After your retarded phone story (which I noticed you ran away from without a response), I'm going to pass on wasting my time clicking this link. Have fun crying though!
He was too busy with a harem of hot bi chicks, you stupid liberal neckbeard basement dweller.
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Jophiel wrote:
After your retarded phone story (which I noticed you ran away from without a response), I'm going to pass on wasting my time clicking this link. Have fun crying though!
He was too busy with a harem of hot bi chicks, you stupid liberal neckbeard basement dweller.

On a completely separate note, I referenced neckbeards this weekend several times to a girl and STILL got laid.
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#8ThiefX, Posted: Aug 16 2011 at 7:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't blame you for not clicking on the link Joph it must be getting harder and harder for you to make excuses for this stuff.
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On a completely separate note, I referenced neckbeards this weekend several times to a girl and STILL got laid.

Did you ask what conditioner she used to keep it so silky and smooth?
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Mine was more believable.
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I don't blame you for not clicking on the link Joph

Well, yeah. That was my point.
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To be fair, this is not new. Pelosi made the exact same claim a year or so back.

It was just as ridiculous then, of course.

Didn't Bush send everyone $200 checks as a stimulus saying that now people would spend $200 and that would generate a greater amount of economic activity?

If this is the case, how is it different to give someone $25 worth of "money" to be spent on food? Same principle, different scale. In fact, it avoids the primary criticism of the Bush plan which was that people are likely to squirrel away the $200 in tough times rather than spend it but food vouchers aren't useful in a bank account or coffee can.
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#13 Aug 16 2011 at 7:56 PM Rating: Good
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You do realize that the vast majority of people have to work or prove that they are actively looking for work to be eligible for food stamps, right?

While it may seem silly to call an existing program "stimulus," if they expand the program to promote economic growth, then that's exactly what it is. But tards like you who can't see how safety nets do more than invite people to fall into them probably won't understand that anytime soon.
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Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
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If this is the case, how is it different to give someone $25 worth of "money" to be spent on food? Same principle, different scale. In fact, it avoids the primary criticism of the Bush plan which was that people are likely to squirrel away the $200 in tough times rather than spend it but food vouchers aren't useful in a bank account or coffee can.


And let's not forget that it also avoids giving that money to people who don't need it at all, which itself adds to another criticism of the Bush stimulus-- that people would waste the money on imported crap, putting the money right back into the pockets of our lenders. If you're on food stamps, you're not spending a lot on imported food products.
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#15 Aug 16 2011 at 8:14 PM Rating: Default
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gbaji wrote:
To be fair, this is not new. Pelosi made the exact same claim a year or so back.

It was just as ridiculous then, of course.

Didn't Bush send everyone $200 checks as a stimulus saying that now people would spend $200 and that would generate a greater amount of economic activity?


Sure, twice I think! With a nod and a wink. Conservatives know that direct payments like that don't actually stimulate the economy much (at all?). Only about 20% of the money ends out being spent buying things, with the other 80% spent paying down debt (we had this discussion before I'm sure!). We know this and we're ok with doing it because we know that paying down of debt is actually a better use of the money when compared to direct consumption spending.

Liberals think the opposite, so we let them think we're going along with their stupid economic ideas just to placate them. Works most of the time too!

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If this is the case, how is it different to give someone $25 worth of "money" to be spent on food? Same principle, different scale. In fact, it avoids the primary criticism of the Bush plan which was that people are likely to squirrel away the $200 in tough times rather than spend it but food vouchers aren't useful in a bank account or coffee can.


Yeah. That wasn't so much of a criticism as a statement of fact. You liberals are such tools sometimes! Smiley: lol

Edited, Aug 16th 2011 7:17pm by gbaji
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If this is the case, how is it different to give someone $25 worth of "money" to be spent on food? Same principle, different scale. In fact, it avoids the primary criticism of the Bush plan which was that people are likely to squirrel away the $200 in tough times rather than spend it but food vouchers aren't useful in a bank account or coffee can.


And let's not forget that it also avoids giving that money to people who don't need it at all, which itself adds to another criticism of the Bush stimulus-- that people would waste the money on imported crap, putting the money right back into the pockets of our lenders. If you're on food stamps, you're not spending a lot on imported food products.


Lol! Um... Guys? It doesn't work at all. It's a placebo at best. The confusing Conservative behavior makes perfect sense once you realize that we know this, but know that you don't.

Shhhhhhh.... Don't tell anyone!
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#17 Aug 16 2011 at 8:19 PM Rating: Good
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Straight from your link...


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If people are able to buy a little more in the grocery store, someone has to stock it, package it, shelve it, process it, ship it. All of those are jobs.


Seems like pretty simple logic to me.
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My favorite was ElneClare complaining that the cell phone someone else bought her wasn't very good.


That was actually me, dumbass.
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Sure, twice I think! With a nod and a wink. Conservatives know that direct payments like that don't actually stimulate the economy much (at all?).

Which is hilarious given that you've previously cited this as one of Bush's mastermind moves to end the recession in the early 2000's Smiley: laugh

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Irony.
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I was going to say something about this but I just found a cache of tiny screws that are for something that may very well be important, but I can't for the life of me figure out what. Now this is gonna bug me for the next six days until I remember what out of the blue, then forget where the screws are.
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#21ThiefX, Posted: Aug 16 2011 at 9:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You do realize you're wrong right? Not only is a job not required to get food stamps in California you don't even have to prove you're a legal citizen of this country.
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Simple logic for a simple mind. Do you seriously not see the flaw in your argument?
Wasn't simple enough for you?
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#23 Aug 16 2011 at 10:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Simple logic for a simple mind. Do you seriously not see the flaw in your argument?



Enlighten me!
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This is were Joph...

It's adorable how defensive I make you Smiley: laugh
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#25 Aug 17 2011 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Simple logic for a simple mind. Do you seriously not see the flaw in your argument?



Enlighten me!


It has something to do with the cost of the food stamps being paid via taxation by the store the food stamps are being used in. The store doesn't actually make any more money. Therefore, it can't afford to hire more people to put food on the shelves. You can use this to increase the volume of food flowing into the store and off the shelves, but you won't actually create any jobs this way. What will happen is that more work stocking shelves has to be done for the same cost (meaning that those who do have jobs have to work harder for the same relative pay). This makes jobs stocking shelves less attractive, and not having a job and getting free food via the stamps more attractive.

Surely, you can see that this will tend to have a negative effect on jobs, right?
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It has something to do with the cost of the food stamps being paid via taxation by the store the food stamps are being used in. The store doesn't actually make any more money.

Cite? Not some manky "But are you saying stores don't pay taxes!?!" semantic bullshit, but an actual cite that it results in zero net for the store when someone uses food stamps there.
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