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#152 May 10 2011 at 7:33 PM Rating: Good
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I understand it's hard for you to cope with your abundant mediocrity, but the insults don't help. Hell, I seem to be the only person in this thread with any intimate familiarity with these programs, but you value your ignorant swill of an opinion over my insight? Rarely do you have anything valuable to contribute to a thread, but because a couple of bobbleheads gobble up your formula for "basic observation" plus "smarmy condescension", you seem to actually think you have something interesting to say.

The problem with having an intelligent conversation with you, is that you can't hold up your end of the bargain.

I own you.
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#153 May 11 2011 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good
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Kachi wrote:
I understand it's hard for you to cope with your abundant mediocrity, but the insults don't help. Hell, I seem to be the only person in this thread with any intimate familiarity with these programs, but you value your ignorant swill of an opinion over my insight? Rarely do you have anything valuable to contribute to a thread, but because a couple of bobbleheads gobble up your formula for "basic observation" plus "smarmy condescension", you seem to actually think you have something interesting to say.

The problem with having an intelligent conversation with you, is that you can't hold up your end of the bargain.


Taking the time to read through one of Kachi's posts sure makes me glad that I never have and never will again.
#154 May 11 2011 at 7:23 AM Rating: Good
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Guenny wrote:
Kachi wrote:
I understand it's hard for you to cope with your abundant mediocrity, but the insults don't help. Hell, I seem to be the only person in this thread with any intimate familiarity with these programs, but you value your ignorant swill of an opinion over my insight? Rarely do you have anything valuable to contribute to a thread, but because a couple of bobbleheads gobble up your formula for "basic observation" plus "smarmy condescension", you seem to actually think you have something interesting to say.

The problem with having an intelligent conversation with you, is that you can't hold up your end of the bargain.


Taking the time to read through one of Kachi's posts sure makes me glad that I never have and never will again.

Clearly a failing on your part to understand and value appropriately the insight and wisdom of someone in the midst of the pursuit of higher education.

Or so he would have you believe.
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#155 May 11 2011 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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Guenny wrote:
Kachi wrote:
I understand it's hard for you to cope with your abundant mediocrity, but the insults don't help. Hell, I seem to be the only person in this thread with any intimate familiarity with these programs, but you value your ignorant swill of an opinion over my insight? Rarely do you have anything valuable to contribute to a thread, but because a couple of bobbleheads gobble up your formula for "basic observation" plus "smarmy condescension", you seem to actually think you have something interesting to say.

The problem with having an intelligent conversation with you, is that you can't hold up your end of the bargain.


Taking the time to read through one of Kachi's posts sure makes me glad that I never have and never will again.

Clearly a failing on your part to understand and value appropriately the insight and wisdom of someone in the midst of the pursuit of higher education.

Or so he would have you believe.


Oh, he's educated? Well, then, the suffocating pretension is definitely justified!
#156Kachi, Posted: May 11 2011 at 8:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well let's just lay that to rest right now- I was more insightful than you well before I pursued any higher education. You only wish I thought it was because I was better educated than you.
#157 May 11 2011 at 8:38 PM Rating: Good
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Kachi wrote:
Well let's just lay that to rest right now- I was more insightful than you well before I pursued any higher education. You only wish I thought it was because I was better educated than you.

There are a number of posters here whose insights I respect, without qualification. You just aren't one of them.

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That's not how commas work.


When they're indicating a pause in dialogue, that's exactly how they work.

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Pretty retarded place to take a pause, really. Try it, you'll sound like even more of an idiot than you usually do.
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#158 May 11 2011 at 8:52 PM Rating: Default
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You're not exactly looking like a great candidate for grammar pedantry yourself.
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#159 May 11 2011 at 9:03 PM Rating: Good
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Kachi wrote:
You're not exactly looking like a great candidate for grammar pedantry yourself.


I am. I speak informally, but I don't take stupid pauses for no reason. That's not something people do, in speech or writing, unless their brains are koffing and weezing for breath as the conversation leaves them breathing dust. Was that the impression you were trying to convey?

If so, I suppose I can up your grade to a solid B.
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#160 May 11 2011 at 9:27 PM Rating: Default
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Pause for effect phrased as an appositive. It's done in language, but doesn't read well. I'll concede your point in any case, if only so you can move along to something more substantial.
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#161 May 11 2011 at 9:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ha ha, substantial discussion. On the interwebs. Oh, you kidsters you.
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#162 May 11 2011 at 9:30 PM Rating: Default
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On my scale, dick jokes rank well above grammar arguments for substance.
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Hyrist wrote:
Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#163 May 11 2011 at 9:34 PM Rating: Good
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Kachi wrote:
Pause for effect phrased as an appositive. It's done in language, but doesn't read well. I'll concede your point in any case, if only so you can move along to something more substantial.


It's true, this is even more of a waste of time than that discussion of omnipotence.
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#164 May 12 2011 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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Plaintiff is living proof of Insite's value to community

Supervised injection site returns feeling of self-worth to addicts, says Dean Wilson, who has been clean for 15 months and counting

By Peter McKnight, Vancouver Sun May 12, 2011

Dean Wilson does not shoot drugs at Insite. In fact, he doesn't shoot drugs at all. And this is precisely why the supervised injection site must remain open.

Wilson did avail himself of Insite's services once, though. Or rather, much more than once: The very first user to "fix" at Insite when it opened in 2003, Wilson recently ended a 40-year habit that saw him injecting cocaine 30 or 40 times a day.

Having put drugs behind him, Wilson has traded a seat at Insite for one in the gallery of the Supreme Court of Canada, as the court today hears a case that bears his name -Attorney-General of Canada v. PHS Community Services Society, Dean Wilson and Shelly Tomic -the case that will decide the future of Insite, and more importantly, the future of those who continue to use its services.

FIRST TRIED HEROIN AT 12

Wilson's journey to the Supreme Court isn't a typical one. Born in Winnipeg in 1955 to a 16-year-old mother with substance abuse problems of her own, Wilson was adopted by an upper middle-class couple who would provide for all of his wants.

Except one. At an age when most boys are just discovering girls, Wilson discovered something else: Heroin. Upon first trying the drug at 12, Wilson declared to his brother "I feel normal."

Heroin's gift of normalcy came at a high price, however, as Wilson suffered his first overdose at 14 and, despite the best treatment money could buy, three more over the next two years.

Still enamoured of his harsh mistress -heroin -Wilson soon left home for Rochdale College, Toronto's infamous experiment in free living that quickly became a polluted drug den. Interestingly, Wilson says he used less hard drugs during this time given their scarcity at Rochdale, but he also admits that he became fairly heavily involved in selling drugs of the softer variety.

After his wayward teenage years, Wilson embarked on a life of surprising normalcy -though the "normalcy" of heroin was never far away. He completed high school and two years of university, and settled in British Columbia where he married and had three children. After he and his wife separated, he became a single father, raising all three children on his own.

But as his children approached their teens and he approached 40, he experienced a mid-life crisis of epic proportions. Saying he "lost purpose in life," Wilson discovered a newer, harsher mistress: Cocaine. What was a twice-a-day heroin habit became an hourly coke fix, and resulted in Wilson becoming incapable of caring for his kids or much else.

They moved in with their mother, while Wilson moved somewhere else -to Vancouver's Downtown Eastside, where the steady supply of drugs ensured that he would spend his days and nights satisfying his new mistress. Or as Wilson describes it: "Somewhere along the line that drug starts doing you."

After some four years of this existence, Wilson attended a meeting of the Vancouver Area Network of Drug Users (VANDU), a group he would later lead. It was this meeting that introduced Wilson to "the political action around drugs" and, he says, changed his life.

He resolved to give up cocaine, though he soon learned that cocaine wasn't about to give him up without a fight. For the next decade, Wilson entered detox "at least" 20 or 30 times, but never lasted more than a day. The longest he ever went without a fix of something was a mere three weeks.

He deteriorated, reaching rock bottom about two years ago.

Having dropped from a healthy 170 pounds to 112, and having slept just three nights during the past month, Wilson was spotted by former Vancouver drug policy coordinator Don MacPherson, who took him into his home.

Wilson then attended Onsite, the detoxication and transitional housing services upstairs from Insite, and after three tries, he finally kissed cocaine goodbye.

He has now been clean for 15 months, and is confident that he will not use drugs again.

INSITE'S 'OFFER OF HOPE'

As Wilson sits in the Supreme Court today, he will hear complex legal arguments about how shuttering Insite infringes drug users' Charter rights to security of the person, and he will hear about complex scientific evidence attesting to Insite's association with increased uptake of detoxication and treatment services.

These arguments and evidence are nothing new to Wilson. He has heard them a thousand times before -indeed, he has lived them. But when he speaks of the importance of Insite, you hear something else, something only an insider can say with feeling: While not a traditionally religious man, Wilson speaks of a distinctly spiritual dimension at Insite, of how it presents an "offer of hope" to those who remain on the street and on drugs.

"Junkies," after all, are literally seen as vermin by many, and that view is often internalized by users themselves. They often see themselves as neither possessed of, nor worthy of, a future -or as Wilson puts it in his characteristically poetic way: "Does a homeless person even dream on the street?"

By validating, not their drug use, but their humanity in spite of their drug use, Insite gives them a sense of selfworth and allows them to dream of a future -allows them to say, in Wilson's words, "My God, I am somebody." This often translates to their taking charge of their health, to seeing doctors when necessary rather than letting their wounds -and their lives -fester.

Of course, detractors claim that Insite does validate drug use, that it merely enables and escalates users' self-destruction. Wilson bridles at the suggestion: "Every bathroom in the Downtown Eastside is an injection site," he maintains, but only Insite offers users physical, psychological and spiritual sustenance.

Wilson also stresses that Insite is not a stand-alone facility. Rather, while Insite provides a safe place for users to inject, it also provides counselling and referrals to detox and treatment. When users are ready for detox, they need only go upstairs, to Onsite. Once they complete that, they can move to the third floor, which provides transitional housing. Wilson knows something about this, since he is a "graduate" of all three floors, and it is a testament to the value of Onsite that they were able to help him after so many other programs had failed.

But Insite also plays an important role since it serves as a point of first contact for many users. Or in keeping with its spiritual dimension, we could say that Insite ministers to those who are lost -that, as Wilson has it, "Insite saves lives, while Onsite changes lives."

In keeping with the spiritual motif, we can also say that Wilson has been no angel in his life, since he confesses to, among other things, having sold a lot of drugs back in the day. But freed as he now is from the physical and psychological bonds of drug addiction, he can finally dream of a future for himself, and it is a future that promises spiritual redemption as well.

While proudly declaring "I am not a drug addict," Wilson promises that he will spend the rest of his life helping others to become free as well, that he will address the damage done by drugs and the politics of drugs, that, ultimately, he will "stand with the users and fight this until the day I die."

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http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/Plaintiff+living+proof+Insite+value+community/4769554/story.html
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#165 May 12 2011 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
[some long-assed article with no context or comment]

F'uck off.
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#166 May 12 2011 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good
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I think it speaks for itself. Besides, I've said all I can say on the topic already.
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When it comes to sitting around not doing anything for long periods of time, only being active for short windows, and marginal changes and sidegrades I'd say FFXI players were the perfect choice for politicians.

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#167 May 12 2011 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
I think it speaks for itself.

Assumes likelihood of being read. Poor assumption.
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Besides, I've said all I can say on the topic already.

Then it was clearly not needed, yeah? See? We can avoid fux pux through common sense.
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#168 May 12 2011 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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/shrugs her shoulders/
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#169 May 12 2011 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
/shrugs her shoulders/


Damn, I thought you were a guy. I feel silly now.
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#170 May 12 2011 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Belkira wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
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Damn, I thought you were a guy. I feel silly now.

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#171 May 12 2011 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira wrote:
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Damn, I thought you were a guy. I feel silly now.


I did too, but I was going off the name. Names that end in "us" are typically masculine, and I don't know of many female gamers that use male names.
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Olorinus is Latin for "of/belonging to swans."
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Olorinus is Latin for "of/belonging to swans."


I wonder how many opportunities they had to use that one. Smiley: tongue
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#174 May 12 2011 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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swans were major property owners in Roman times....

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Eske Esquire wrote:
Belkira wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
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Damn, I thought you were a guy. I feel silly now.


I did too, but I was going off the name. Names that end in "us" are typically masculine, and I don't know of many female gamers that use male names.


I just liked the word.

I think on the internet most people just assume everyone is a guy... although I often make the opposite mistake - like I still have trouble thinking Catt is a guy but then again I dated a chick named Kat so it is hard for me to associate that name with masculinity
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#176 May 12 2011 at 10:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tailmon thinks I'm a guy. Oh, that just cracks me up.
#177 May 12 2011 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
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Tailmon thinks I'm a guy. Oh, that just cracks me up.

Nice man boobs?
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