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#27 Apr 15 2011 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
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At the risk of giving much weight to the study at all, that's not remotely what the findings actually show. The larger area of the brain related to processing fear determines whether one faces fears or shrinks away from them. Predictably, conservatives face fearful situations, while liberals tend to run away.

Similarly, the larger area associated with "understanding complexity", really isn't about understanding it so much as accepting it. Specifically, it measures a willingness to accept contradictions out of a belief that complex systems can't be understood fully anyway. Conservatives are less inclined to accept such things.

Which kinda perfectly explains their different views on things like global warming, for example. If we're taking the study at face value anyway.

I'm going to tell you all the things you've done wrong here.

1. You've brought more attention to the original topic. While a few posters were giving themselves a handjob over the studies, most were willing to laugh it off and move on, not concerning ourselves with the results. This thread would have been a topic about cookies for a page more at most and then died never to gain much attention. Now you've only drawn more attention to scientific study that can be seen to put your chosen ideological demographic in an unfavorable light.

2. Not only that, but because your refutation is so ridiculous and contains so much blatantly dishonest insertion of speculative reasons for why such results were obtained. This thread--if any of the usual suspects are bored enough--is now going to be all about how incredibly wrong you are and consequently give just that much more validity to the notion that typical conservative leaning individuals are just that much more paranoid.

3. You've left yourself without your typical exit. You have already accepted the study as valid source materiel, and so you've completely closed off the "liberally biased results" door.

In terms of strategy, posting in this thread with anything but a dismissing jest was an awful idea.
#28 Apr 15 2011 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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#29 Apr 15 2011 at 5:51 PM Rating: Good
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2. Not only that, but because your refutation is so ridiculous and contains so much blatantly dishonest insertion of speculative reasons for why such results were obtained. This thread--if any of the usual suspects are bored enough--is now going to be all about how incredibly wrong you are and consequently give just that much more validity to the notion that typical conservative leaning individuals are just that much more paranoid.


Not bored enough. Especially not to pull the chair out from under someone who doesn't have a leg to stand on.
#30 Apr 15 2011 at 6:20 PM Rating: Default
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I'm going to tell you all the things you've done wrong here.


Ooooh! Do tell! :)

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1. You've brought more attention to the original topic. While a few posters were giving themselves a handjob over the studies, most were willing to laugh it off and move on, not concerning ourselves with the results. This thread would have been a topic about cookies for a page more at most and then died never to gain much attention. Now you've only drawn more attention to scientific study that can be seen to put your chosen ideological demographic in an unfavorable light.


And what would be the fun of that? In case you haven't noticed, I tend to enjoy a good debate over a topic of some interest. I'm not adverse to the occasional "Here's a cookie!" thread, but this place would be a graveyard of boringness if someone didn't occasionally light a fire.

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2. Not only that, but because your refutation is so ridiculous and contains so much blatantly dishonest insertion of speculative reasons for why such results were obtained. This thread--if any of the usual suspects are bored enough--is now going to be all about how incredibly wrong you are and consequently give just that much more validity to the notion that typical conservative leaning individuals are just that much more paranoid.


If by "incredibly wrong", you mean "reading past the title and the first paragraph", sure. Hey! Knock yourself out.

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3. You've left yourself without your typical exit. You have already accepted the study as valid source materiel, and so you've completely closed off the "liberally biased results" door.


What part of me stating (twice!) that the whole thing is based on "if" we accept the study itself. I'm not interested so much in the validity of the study as the willingness of some posters to leap to a conclusion that they like while failing to read even the whole linked article.

I just found it interesting that the immediate assumption based on the thread title and the one paragraph that was quoted in the OP was that conservatives act on fear while liberals act on intelligent analysis, when that isn't even remotely close to what the article itself said. And that observation doesn't have anything to do with the validity of the study itself. It's more of an observation about the willingness of some posters to blindly accept something when it happens to appear to align with their own beliefs without bothering to look any further.


Which I suppose actually does support the studies findings. But that's just gravy I guess.

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In terms of strategy, posting in this thread with anything but a dismissing jest was an awful idea.


Hah. There's some irony here somewhere. Where could it be? ;)
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#31 Apr 15 2011 at 6:23 PM Rating: Good
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There's some irony here somewhere. Where could it be? ;)
In that you've posted seriously twice in a thread no one has taken seriously?
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#32 Apr 15 2011 at 6:56 PM Rating: Good
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#33 Apr 15 2011 at 7:22 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
There's some irony here somewhere. Where could it be? ;)
In that you've posted seriously twice in a thread no one has taken seriously?


Except for Allegory. And now you!

Muhahahah! ;)

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#34 Apr 15 2011 at 7:24 PM Rating: Good
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You didn't think that was simply a plus one with bait for another?
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#35 Apr 15 2011 at 7:25 PM Rating: Decent
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You didn't think that was simply a plus one with bait for another?


Hahah! I'm not falling for that one!

Of course, you already fell for my bait. Yeah! That's the ticket. I baited you. So stick that in your mackerel and cook it or something!
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#36 Apr 15 2011 at 7:26 PM Rating: Good
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Oddly, I prefer cat fish.
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#37 Apr 15 2011 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Catfish is good. I'm partial to either Salmon or Halibut depending on the specifics of the dish. Actually, I'll enjoy just about any fish that's actual fish and not some other sea creature/bug/whatever.

Hmmmm... Fish! :)
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#38 Apr 15 2011 at 7:32 PM Rating: Good
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Oddly, I prefer cat fish.


Side note. All seafood in America is covered by the FDA except for catfish. The USDA just took it over. It seems that catfish has become too risky to not be 100% regulated.

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#39 Apr 15 2011 at 7:33 PM Rating: Good
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I'm not really a fish aficionado, but the last time I went to Mardi Gras that my wife doesn't know about I had some of the best damn Catfish Gumbo and it never really left me.
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#40 Apr 15 2011 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I heard that people were +1ing in here.
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I heard that people were +1ing in here.


Nope
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#42 Apr 15 2011 at 7:49 PM Rating: Good
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[quote=Allegory] but this place would be a graveyard of boringness if someone didn't occasionally light a fire.


Hehe...You're most welcome Smiley: wink
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#46 Apr 16 2011 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
Similarly, the larger area associated with "understanding complexity", really isn't about understanding it so much as accepting it. Specifically, it measures a willingness to accept contradictions out of a belief that complex systems can't be understood fully anyway. Conservatives are less inclined to accept such things.

Which kinda perfectly explains their different views on things like global warming, for example. If we're taking the study at face value anyway.
Not sure how you're trying to use that example in a positive light for conservatives. Adamantly rejecting science for no valid reason other than "it's bad for business" is a terrible argument. Try again? lol
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