lolgaxe wrote:
I feel no one is stupid enough to clean a loaded weapon.
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I thought you knew enough never to underestimate how stupid people can be,
And thats another reason I'm dreading the upcoming Red Sox season.
Our pitching already sucks & will continue to suck for the forcible future. Pedro's Asst. GM, Lackey's coming back, Ortiz is iffy...
Excuse me while i vomit.
Our pitching already sucks & will continue to suck for the forcible future. Pedro's Asst. GM, Lackey's coming back, Ortiz is iffy...
Excuse me while i vomit.
"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
And thats another reason I'm dreading the upcoming Red Sox season.
Can't be worse than last year.
Can't be worse than last year.
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Smash wrote:
Can't be worse than last year.
The offense & defense should be improved, but I don't think the big weaknesses of the pitching rotation & bullpen have been improved enough.
Who knows, maybe Lackey & Buchholtz will be the pitchers we thought they were, but I'm not holding my breath.
"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
At least your season isn't over already like my Mets.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
You guys are too hard on your teams. I like to think my Blue Jays are going to win it all. Then again they are the best team in baseball on paper so...yall ready for a series in the snow...*(may not actually be in the snow because we have a dome.)
HEY GOOGLE. **** OFF YOU. **** YOUR ******** SEARCH ENGINE IN ITS ******* ****** BINARY ***. ALL DAY LONG.
The Twinkies can only do better ∴ It will be a good year in baseball.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
lolgaxe wrote:
I feel no one is stupid enough to clean a loaded weapon. He clearly just didn't want to be recruited by the Red Sox.
That was my first thought as well. "Why the heck are you cleaning a loaded weapon?"
See, when we argue that we need better gun safety training classes for gun permits, this is the stuff we're talking about.
catwho wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I feel no one is stupid enough to clean a loaded weapon. He clearly just didn't want to be recruited by the Red Sox.
That was my first thought as well. "Why the heck are you cleaning a loaded weapon?"
See, when we argue that we need better gun safety training classes for gun permits, this is the stuff we're talking about.
Eh, you can train a monkey to clean a gun. But you can't teach him not to be a monkey.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
catwho wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I feel no one is stupid enough to clean a loaded weapon. He clearly just didn't want to be recruited by the Red Sox.
That was my first thought as well. "Why the heck are you cleaning a loaded weapon?"
See, when we argue that we need better gun safety training classes for gun permits, this is the stuff we're talking about.
Eh, you can train a monkey to clean a gun. But you can't teach him not to be a monkey.
Depends.
If the monkey shoots its head off trying to clean the gun, is it still considered a monkey?
Edited, Feb 11th 2013 9:10am by someproteinguy
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
The bigger part might.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Eddie Izzard wrote:
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. But monkeys do, too (if they've got a gun).
Just as Planned.
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
Friar Bijou wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So still no answer to my question? No one has any clue what kind of restrictions we could place on gun ownership in the US that would not violate the 2nd amendment, but which would be effective at preventing these kinds of shootings. But somehow I'm wrong to point out that if you can't do this, perhaps you shouldn't argue that "restricting gun ownership" is the solution. Strange. Very very strange.
Yes. I think I said that on like page 2 of this thread.
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We may find a way to dimish the frequency of occurences, but not eliminate them.
Absolutely. So lets look at choices that would diminish both the frequency of occurrence *and* the number of fatalities per occurrence. That's been my argument all along.
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Try to rewrite you argument without that proviso.
Um... I'm arguing against that though (perhaps you missed this?). I'm pointing out that when you use a shooting event like Newtown as your rallying cry for more strict gun control, you are in effect taking a "as long as shootings like this can happen still, we need more gun control" argument. I'm the one saying that this is the wrong argument to make because there is no point at which that argument fails because the legal changes you are promoting can never prevent the thing you're using to promote them.
I'm saying we should recognize this fact up front and make our decisions based on a rational examination of the facts rather than an emotional response to events of the day.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
#767gbaji,
Posted: Feb 11 2013 at 7:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /shrug. Accidents of this type are still incredibly rare compared to the number of gun owners out there though. No one's arguing against the idea that people *should* take gun safety courses, but the question is whether such a thing can be a legal requirement for ownership. Again, it's that pesky 2nd amendment. We don't require people to take a class on responsible speech before allowing them to exercise their 1st amendment rights either. The idea would be that if you place such restrictions you will affect how many people can exercise the right itself.
gbaji wrote:
Every time you contemplate some requirement for gun ownership just ask yourself if you'd want the same kind of requirement to be placed on being able to vote.
Registration and a record kept of each time you exercise the right? You're only able to own a gun once every couple years or so?
Well, okay. You said it, not me.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
Again, it's that pesky 2nd amendment.
Edited, Feb 11th 2013 11:25pm by lolgaxe
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Jophiel wrote:
Registration and a record kept of each time you exercise the right? You're only able to own a gun once every couple years or so?
Treating guns likes votes? Bold move for someone from Illinois.
Is this going to be about zombies with firearms again?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Is this going to be about zombies with firearms again?
Allegory wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Registration and a record kept of each time you exercise the right? You're only able to own a gun once every couple years or so?
Treating guns likes votes? Bold move for someone from Illinois.
How about we allow people to use guns to vote?
No more hanging chads!
Just as Planned.
Timelordwho wrote:
How about we allow people to use guns to vote?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
/shrug. Accidents of this type are still incredibly rare compared to the number of gun owners out there though.
I'd say "relatively" rare. 600ish people a year are killed in gun accidents. While a small number in absolute terms, it's higher per capita than those killed in archery accidents or pretty much all other non vehicle sporting related deaths.
Please notice I posted "per capita" before you give into "ahah! but there are way more guns than bows!" or whatever. I know your first instinct is to assume you're being manipulated by statistics in some obvious fashion, but trust me, it's not obvious when I do it.
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Every time you contemplate some requirement for gun ownership just ask yourself if you'd want the same kind of requirement to be placed on being able to vote.
Registration and a record kept of each time you exercise the right?
Sure. There's not a lot of resistance against reasonable requirements to prove who you are and that you are not currently denied the right to own a gun (by being a felon or declared mentally incompetent) when purchasing a firearm. Contrast to the massive resistance on the left against any checks for voter registration. Similarly, no one has a problem with having to prove you are the legal owner of a firearm if you should use it in some way, or that you're legally allowed to carry it (concealed or otherwise) if asked to do so while on a public street, yet asking a voter to produce any form of identification to show that they're the guy who they're claiming to be when voting is a gross violation of their rights.
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You're only able to own a gun once every couple years or so?
Not comparable. You're legally allowed to vote in any and every election that comes along. A better comparison would be that you're limited to how many elections you can vote in over a period of time (analogous to limits on how many guns one may own, or how many bullets in a magazine). Or we could say that you're only allowed to vote in a limited number of types of elections (so either local, or state, or federal, but not all). Or votes must all be cast for people whose names start with the same letter, or have the same number of letters in their names, or any of a number of other silly and useless cosmetic differences.
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Well, okay. You said it, not me.
Yes, I did. Now go look at all the proposed gun control ideas out there and compare to their equivalents if we were talking about voting rights. You're not allowed to vote if you live in a household with someone who's a felon or mentally incompetent. You're not allowed to vote if you haven't passed an 8 hour course and been granted a license. I could go down the whole list of proposals if you want, but most of them are pretty darn restrictive.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
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