We're bending over backwards to tell you that we don't think a slight change in penile arousal is neccisarily a definitive indicator of sexual preferance: whether it's gay/straight/bi/cp/beastiality...etc.
What IS in indicator, is what you DO with that arousal. I maintain that if you jerk off to it, you're into it.
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Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If he says he is, then he is in denial.
And therein lies the root of all homophobia. Welcome to the point.
That makes no sense. There is no correlation with hatred and/or fear of something and actually being that something.
Just remember, just because some x are y, that doesn't not automatically mean all x are y.
Edited, Jan 25th 2012 6:45am by Aripyanfar
Almalieque wrote:
Belkira wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Are you saying that you don't see anything wrong with a grown man getting off on his child **** collection because that necessarily isn't an indication that he's into little children? Really?
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
I guess you're not going to answer that question. It's ok if you don't see a problem with grown men getting off on kiddie **** because it's not the children, it's the act. Whatever.. that's absurd and you know it.
As long as they aren't hurting a child, I don't really care what they are getting off on. Some degree of monitoring, along with hitting distributors does have social good, however.
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Aripyanfar wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If he says he is, then he is in denial.
And therein lies the root of all homophobia. Welcome to the point.
That makes no sense. There is no correlation with hatred and/or fear of something and actually being that something.
Just remember, just because some x are y, that doesn't not automatically mean all x are y.
Edited, Jan 25th 2012 6:45am by Aripyanfar
Exactly, but when you respond with "some x are y" as a counter, you are implying that the probability of that happening is worth mentioning. In this case, it isn't, so it's silly to even bring it up.
Well, this last page has been mighty entertaining.
His autophobia isn't any more entertaining this page than any other page.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I don't know, the whole "if you're a homophobe, that totally means you can't possibly be gay" argument was particularly amusing to me.
Like if you don't want to be gay, all you have to do is hate them, and it'll cancel those urges right the **** out.
Okay, him basically admitting it is a little more entertaining, so you're right.
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Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If he says he is, then he is in denial.
And therein lies the root of all homophobia. Welcome to the point.
That makes no sense. There is no correlation with hatred and/or fear of something and actually being that something. According to your theory, all Klansmen hate minorities because they are indeed the said minorities that they hate.
It is highly possible to just hate or fear something out pure ignorance and that probability is much higher than the probability of someone hating or fearing something because of who they are..
Not really the same thing. This is really basic psychology. Here, I'll hold your hand and give you some reading material. Here's the study.
The abstract wrote:
Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
Yaaay, Science!
You'll find most racism comes from fear of inadequacy. You'll find racist people say things like "them damn for'ners. Comin' over here and TEKKIN' MAH JAWB! derpa derr!" or the like. Doesn't even have to be immigrants, a lot of racism stems from a fear of being marginalised, at least in whatever ethnic group happens to be in power of any given country.
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#2137Almalieque,
Posted: Jan 25 2012 at 11:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That is purely stupid and if you believe homophobia is based on denial, then you're implying that all problems with homosexuality are caused by homosexuals. Since you don't believe one can not support homosexual progress without being homophobic, then all homophobes are the cause. Since you're saying that all (or at least most) homophobes are secretly homosexuals in denial, then homosexuals are the reason why SSM isn't legal in all 50 states.
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#2139Almalieque,
Posted: Jan 25 2012 at 12:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If that's what you meant, then why did you say "no matter who the participants"? "No matter who the participants" isn't restrictive to your made up criteria and YOU KNOW THAT.
Almalieque wrote:
If that's what you meant, then why did you say "no matter who the participants"? "No matter who the participants" isn't restrictive to your made up criteria and YOU KNOW THAT.
You basically put your foot in your mouth and now are too stubborn to admit to being wrong.
You basically put your foot in your mouth and now are too stubborn to admit to being wrong.
No. I basically made two mistakes. One was talking to you at all. The other was assuming, once again, that you would follow the basic rules of a conversation. My bad.
ETA: Also, if you get off on watching rape ****, that doesn't mean you're a rapeasexual. It means you get off on watching another person get overpowered and hurt. That is not a sexual preference, you moron.
Edited, Jan 25th 2012 12:30pm by Belkira
Almalieque wrote:
Quote:
Yaaay, Science!
You'll find most racism comes from fear of inadequacy. You'll find racist people say things like "them damn for'ners. Comin' over here and TEKKIN' MAH JAWB! derpa derr!" or the like. Doesn't even have to be immigrants, a lot of racism stems from a fear of being marginalised, at least in whatever ethnic group happens to be in power of any given country.
That is purely stupid and if you believe homophobia is based on denial, then you're implying that all problems with homosexuality are caused by homosexuals. Since you don't believe one can not support homosexual progress without being homophobic, then all homophobes are the cause. Since you're saying that all (or at least most) homophobes are secretly homosexuals in denial, then homosexuals are the reason why SSM isn't legal in all 50 states.
Somehow, that doesn't make sense. Given the fact that the majority of the population is heterosexual, then that isn't mathematically possible. This is because if the heterosexual isn't FOR homosexual progress, then they MUST be a homophobe (i.e. for DADT). That would make them a homosexual, which would make most of the population homosexual.
That is absurd and it's sad if you believe that there is any percentage of homopobhic homosexuals that exist to matter in any argument. Mainly because that is highly unlikely to be ACTIVELY homosexual and homophobic at the same time....
You're confusing two different concepts. Denial is passing through some M on M action, being interested, but forcing yourself not to watch to "stop" being homosexual. However, if you're actively participating, then you're no longer denying, you're just lying. Attempting to stop smoking and continuing to start back smoking is different from constantly smoking and saying you're quitting. One is denial and the other is plum lying.
Becoming aroused at homoerotic imagery does not make you homosexual. Having the desire to peruse a sexual and emotional relationship with someone of the same sex as you, is what makes you homosexual. You don't read so well, do you? What the study indicates, is that there is a strong link between an individual becoming sexually aroused by homoerotic imagery, becoming disgusted with themselves or whatever, and the hugely overcompensating in their day to day actions. Resulting in an outward hatred/bigotry towards homosexuals. The kind you display, weirdly.
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LordFaramir wrote:
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He probably thinks that if you have an ****** while being raped, it means you really like it.
Edited, Jan 25th 2012 2:37pm by Spoonless
Edited, Jan 25th 2012 2:37pm by Spoonless
Belkira wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If that's what you meant, then why did you say "no matter who the participants"? "No matter who the participants" isn't restrictive to your made up criteria and YOU KNOW THAT.
You basically put your foot in your mouth and now are too stubborn to admit to being wrong.
You basically put your foot in your mouth and now are too stubborn to admit to being wrong.
No. I basically made two mistakes. One was talking to you at all. The other was assuming, once again, that you would follow the basic rules of a conversation. My bad.
ETA: Also, if you get off on watching rape ****, that doesn't mean you're a rapeasexual. It means you get off on watching another person get overpowered and hurt. That is not a sexual preference, you moron.
Edited, Jan 25th 2012 12:30pm by Belkira
Your subjective definition of "rape" is irrelevant of this discussion.
There are only two choices..
1. The participants of a sexual interaction plays a part in your arousal
or
2. The participants of a sexual interaction plays NO part in your arousal.
Just answer the question.. Which one is it? All you're doing is changing back and forth depending on who the participants are. By definition, you are accepting #1, but you're too stubborn to admit to it because that contradicts your original claim of #2.
Edited, Jan 25th 2012 10:43pm by Almalieque
Nilatai wrote:
Becoming aroused at homoerotic imagery does not make you homosexual. Having the desire to peruse a sexual and emotional relationship with someone of the same sex as you, is what makes you homosexual.
Almalieque wrote:
Denial is passing through some M on M action, being interested, but forcing yourself not to watch to "stop" being homosexual. However, if you're actively participating, then you're no longer denying, you're just lying. Attempting to stop smoking and continuing to start back smoking is different from constantly smoking and saying you're quitting. One is denial and the other is plum lying.
Nilatai wrote:
You don't read so well, do you?
My sentiments exactly.
Nilatai wrote:
What the study indicates, is that there is a strong link between an individual becoming sexually aroused by homoerotic imagery, becoming disgusted with themselves or whatever, and the hugely overcompensating in their day to day actions.
Read above.. You should reread my counter. To believe that there is a notable percentage of people who fall in that category is absurd based on post #2137.
Nilatai wrote:
Resulting in an outward hatred/bigotry towards homosexuals. The kind you display, weirdly.
Nu-uh.. No you...
Really? If you actually take the time to read post 2137, you'll see how any notable percentage of people falling in that category implies that homosexuals are the root of their own problems and further more that heterosexuals are the minority.No, you moron. My argument is that getting turned on by gay **** doesn't make you gay. Period.
#2146Almalieque,
Posted: Jan 25 2012 at 2:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So, is that option 1 or option 2? That statement falls in one of those two options.
Actually, I amend my earlier statement. Being aroused by "kiddie ****" does not make you a pedophile. Raping a child makes you a pedophile. My mistake.
If you want to have an adult discussion about whether or. It gay **** makes you gay, let me know.
If you want to have an adult discussion about whether or. It gay **** makes you gay, let me know.
Belkira wrote:
Actually, I amend my earlier statement. Being aroused by "kiddie ****" does not make you a @#%^phile. Raping a child makes you a @#%^phile. My mistake.
That is, technically, untrue. Being aroused by that would, in fact, make one a pedophile. It's the quality of being sexually attracted to children. Raping a child makes you a pedophile, and a child rapist.
Apologies if I'm missing something here. I'm sure whatever you're discussing, Alma is wrong for a litany of other, valid reasons.
Some people are turned on by power, regardless of the age or gender of the victim (or "victim"). If that's what is arousing to a man, he may or may not be a pedo. He may or may not be a rapist. He may just be into dominance, and the form it takes is secondary.
For example.
I'm not the resident board expert on sex and sexuality, but this is my take on it: if it looks simple and easily explained, it probably isn't.
For example.
I'm not the resident board expert on sex and sexuality, but this is my take on it: if it looks simple and easily explained, it probably isn't.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Eske Esquire wrote:
Belkira wrote:
Actually, I amend my earlier statement. Being aroused by "kiddie ****" does not make you a @#%^phile. Raping a child makes you a @#%^phile. My mistake.
That is, technically, untrue. Being aroused by that would, in fact, make one a @#%^phile. It's the quality of being sexually attracted to children. Raping a child makes you a @#%^phile, and a child rapist.
Apologies if I'm missing something here. I'm sure whatever you're discussing, Alma is wrong for a litany of other, valid reasons.
I believe that wanting to stick your ***** in a child is what would classify you as a pedo. You can't help if it arouses you, and it doesn't necessarily mean anything, unless seeing it arouses you AND makes you want to go out and ***** little babies.
Pedophilia isn't merely being aroused by children, not according to the DSM. It's described as the primary or exclusive sexual interest in children to the point that they either act on it or it causes severe distress. One drink does not an alcoholic make.
Truth is, kids are capable of arousing psychologically healthy adults. And pretty much anything post-pubescence arousing an adult isn't even unusual.
Edited, Jan 25th 2012 7:03pm by Allegory
Truth is, kids are capable of arousing psychologically healthy adults. And pretty much anything post-pubescence arousing an adult isn't even unusual.
Edited, Jan 25th 2012 7:03pm by Allegory
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