My father is nearing the completion of the Bhagavad Gita (I'm actually kind of amazed he finished it; I haven't gotten around to it yet myself (ie. excerpts but not the whole thing)) and I'm wondering what to recommend for him next.
I was thinking about Eckenkar actually, since he's one to get into that sort of quasi-mystical spirituality stuff. Soto zen might be cool, but for some reason I can't think of any particular text for it aside from the essays that I have.
Other contenders might be the english Koran. Would be nice to hear what people thought though, without me just making a poll.
Edited, Apr 26th 2009 2:08am by Pensive
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My favorite religious texts involve cartoon characters, surprise surprise.
There was another comic book version of the Tao De Ching, I think. It was really well done too, but I can't seem to find it.
There was another comic book version of the Tao De Ching, I think. It was really well done too, but I can't seem to find it.
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My favorite religious texts involve cartoon characters, surprise surprise.
My buddhism professor always hated that book
I liked it and I think I own it somewhere, just need to find it.
Ishmael sounds extremely familiar for some reason.
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Through Ishmael, Quinn offers a wide-ranging if highly general examination of the history of our civilization, illuminating the assumptions and philosophies at the heart of many global problems. Despite some gross oversimplifications, Quinn's ideas are fairly convincing; it's hard not to agree that unrestrained population growth and an obsession with conquest and control of the environment are among the key issues of our times.
Sounds like Sophie's World
Edited, Apr 26th 2009 2:46am by Pensive
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My buddhism professor always hated that book 
The Christian Bible is an interesting read. It really makes you wonder what Christians are talking about sometimes when their Bible seems to have an entirely different voice of it's own that says otherwise.
Another good one is the Tibetan Book of the Dead, which is the documentation of sacred texts of the Tibetan lamas dealing with their perception of the mechanics behind the alleged afterlife and world beyond in general.
Aside from that, I have found the works of the Theosophical Society to be the most interesting by far. "Isis Unveiled" by Helena Blavatsky (1877) is the single most fascinating thing I have ever read.
Anything on Hermetic philosophy is interesting as well.
There are so many more I should say but I am only barely touching the surface myself.
Another good one is the Tibetan Book of the Dead, which is the documentation of sacred texts of the Tibetan lamas dealing with their perception of the mechanics behind the alleged afterlife and world beyond in general.
Aside from that, I have found the works of the Theosophical Society to be the most interesting by far. "Isis Unveiled" by Helena Blavatsky (1877) is the single most fascinating thing I have ever read.
Anything on Hermetic philosophy is interesting as well.
There are so many more I should say but I am only barely touching the surface myself.
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I like Buddha and the Agony of Existence best.
People need to get on their computers and discuss this thread... some more. 
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One of the few things that I remember about the Vajrayana buddhists was that the dali llama is supposed to be the living avatar of avalokateshvara, who I believe is Kanon in japan.. but I might be confusing them. There are a ton of freakin buddhas
The one that I won't forget ever is jizo, thanks entirely to the sacrificial jizo item in suikoden. He watches over children and travellers.
The point is that the dali llama is purportedly a living and breathing bodhisatva; his entire existence and purpose in life is to make other people happy and guide them on their course to nirvana. I always thought that that was so awesome.
I went to some function he was at maybe a year ago in centennial park. Very mellow sounding guy.
The one that I won't forget ever is jizo, thanks entirely to the sacrificial jizo item in suikoden. He watches over children and travellers.
The point is that the dali llama is purportedly a living and breathing bodhisatva; his entire existence and purpose in life is to make other people happy and guide them on their course to nirvana. I always thought that that was so awesome.
I went to some function he was at maybe a year ago in centennial park. Very mellow sounding guy.
Kalpasutra.
I was thinking about Eckenkar actually
May was well just skip right ahead to Dianetics if you're goal is to offer him bullshit marketing texts.
I was thinking about Eckenkar actually
May was well just skip right ahead to Dianetics if you're goal is to offer him bullshit marketing texts.
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I found the Necronomicon an interesting read; sadly my comprehension skills are poor so I have to read out loud a few times before I understand the passage. I was surprised when the characters in the book came to life right in front of me; it was like watching children's television.
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If you define Atheism as a Religion, some key texts would be:
Origin of Species
The Selfish Gene
The Big Idea
A Brief History of Time
Well, those are a start I suppose..
Origin of Species
The Selfish Gene
The Big Idea
A Brief History of Time
Well, those are a start I suppose..
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If your seminal text is the Selfish Gene, you need to hire better writers.
Back in one of my other phases, I used to chant the Lotus Sutra. You could always read that.
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Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Really? Have you read the Bible? 
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Eh, religious texts make me bored.
I always thought the OoT preferred this sort of book.
Edited, Apr 26th 2009 4:21pm by MagingMartin
I always thought the OoT preferred this sort of book.
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May was well just skip right ahead to Dianetics if you're goal is to offer him bullsh*t marketing texts.
You don't find it the least bit interesting to observe religion in action, onthe ground, as opposed to dry and dull theology? It's disingenuous to pretend that there can't be positive social change from new religious movements, even if they look like marketing texts to you or me.
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Actually it's a lot simpler than that.
Dad: Hey what's this book?
Me: Um.. its about Eckenkar, you travel to other planes of existence in your dreams
Dad: ZOMGWTF awesome!
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If you define Atheism as a Religion
No
There are much less politically motivated secular texts than those, as they are, and are better suited in every way for ontology that isn't just circle jerking with other atheists.
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Dad: Hey what's this book?
Me: Um.. its about Eckenkar, you travel to other planes of existence in your dreams
Dad: Pass the crack pipe, son.
Me: Um.. its about Eckenkar, you travel to other planes of existence in your dreams
Dad: Pass the crack pipe, son.
Just as Planned.
Belkira, are you paying attention?
My great civilization has just discovered Mysticism.
Last turn I discovered Machinery.
Last turn I discovered Machinery.
Just as Planned.
Does your Civilisation's name begin with "The Imperium of", by any chance?
No, they get back up when you knock them down.
Just as Planned.
Castaneda.
You don't find it the least bit interesting to observe religion in action, onthe ground, as opposed to dry and dull theology? It's disingenuous to pretend that there can't be positive social change from new religious movements, even if they look like marketing texts to you or me.
They don't "look like" marketing texts, they're texts from an organization which exists solely to raise money. It's not my fault you happened to choose an obvious fraud from your list of obscure spiritual organizations. I grant you, the odds of that occurring were significant, but there are hundreds of belief systems where that isn't as clearly the case. Novelty doesn't make something more valid or less transparently empty.
Equivocating Eckankar with religions that genuinely attempt to alleviate suffering in the world, no matter how **** poorly they fail or actually add to it in the attempt, is intellectually dishonest and akin to giving your father "The Panda's Thumb" when he finishes "On the Origin of Species"
Look, I don't care what your old man reads. Tell him Danielle Steele was a Zulu prophet, if you like. If your intent is really to help him explore spirituality, though, why not do that?
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No, they get back up when you knock them down.
What about if you slice them into a thousand molten shards?
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Tell him Danielle Steele was a Zulu prophet, if you like. If your intent is really to help him explore spirituality, though, why not do that?
You mean he wasn't?
My... my whole life has been a lie.
Edited, Apr 26th 2009 6:30pm by Kavekk
Castaneda.
Is it 1979 already? "Alice in Wonderland" is vastly more interesting, not to mention anthropologically accurate.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
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