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#1 Mar 14 2013 at 12:48 AM Rating: Good
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My tax returns seem to be yielding about $324 in refund, instead of my usual payment of around $12. If I were to chip in about $100 to that, how decent of a comp primarily for gaming would I be able to build, assuming I just keep my old monitor?
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#2 Mar 14 2013 at 1:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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You could make something that could do decent Medium graphics in most games. I built a system a few years back for around 500 that I just upgraded from.

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AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103727 $129.99

RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply, Item #: N82E16817152035 $49.99

EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1367-TR GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP
Item #: N82E16814130597
$149.99

BIOSTAR A870U3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
$54.99

G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT
Item #: N82E16820231422
$43.99

LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
$18.99

Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148767
$39.99

Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811133094

$44.99

Subtotal $532.92


Thats the invoice info from 2 years ago. Its a solid machine. Only game I had issues with really was Planetside 2 and that seems more of an AMD issue then anything. But I was able to play most games at a solid medium with a few highs and get 'acceptable' framerate.

I know the processor I had is cheaper now.

I don't know how much you know about PCs, but If you can salvage more from your old PC the better. I mean case is around 50 dollars for a cheap one. If you dont mind using your old case thats 50 dollars saved, PSU I'm leary about saving your old one but if its decent wattage you may be in luck thats around 50 dollars saved. If you HDD is decent size and Sata 3 you may be able to shave off a few dollars there.

Is Mail in rebates something you want to deal with, if so there is some decent Video card deals out right now in the 150 range.

Let me do a few scourings and toss something up here in a bit or tomorrow.


Edited, Mar 14th 2013 2:12am by BeanX
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#3 Mar 14 2013 at 1:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Is there any salvageable hardware in your current machine at all? Otherwise you're short for a computer build period, let alone a gaming build. You're looking at at least $80 for a decent motherboard, $100 for a decent processor, $30 for ram, $80 for a power supply assuming you don't have a usable one, $60 for a hard drive, $20 for an optical drive, $30-$90 for a case (and you really don't want to skimp there), and a gaming PC really needs at least a $130ish video card. Thats around $570ish before the $130 operating system for a theoretical computer based on average prices and assuming a $70 case. A decent midrange gaming computer is going to run you closer to $750 before OS.

You can always build one in stages though, get the core components now, wait a month or two and buy parts as funds come available. If you are willing to accept slightly older style components, you can sometimes find "bare bones" kits, such as this one http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7640252&CatId=333 $300 there would get you a lower end case, decent motherboard with room to upograde ram, decent lower end processor, a power supply sufficeint for a gaming video card, and 8GB ram with 2 free slots to expand later. You would still need the video card, hard drive and optical drive at a minimum with that (call it $230 more), but you would save about $100ish. thats again assuming you can aquire the operating system somewhere else (student versions, find an OEM key on ebay in direct violation of microsoft EULA, etc)

The main advantage to picking individual components rather than bundling is you get more control over your end product. I'd go with a quad core CPU and a better case for a starter PC personally (probably a cooler master CM 690 II case) but you have to go with the budget too. If you go with the AMD bundles you can save some more money there, though at the lower cost end there the Intel I3 processors and motherboards are pretty comperable in cost and speed.

You'll need a minimum of a 550 watt Power supply to drive a gaming video card. Check your current PC, it may have one. also make sure it has video card 6 pin PCI express power leads and an 8 pin core voltage lead for the motherboard. Optical drives are cheap, the amount of trouble you will save by going with a new SATA drive over trying to use an old, likely IDE one is worth the $20. Hard drives last 3-5 years on average before failure, if your drive is particularily old, its probably not worth trying to build a new computer around. Your existing video card, depending on age and slot type, etc, might work as a temporary unit until more funds came available to at least get you up and running.

Toss around some budget numbers and look at the various barebones kits out there, and if you want I can put together a component list to fit the budget for you. Newegg, frys, other comptuer chains also may have deals worth checking out.

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#4 Mar 14 2013 at 1:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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One other quick note from BeanX's quote there. hard drive prices literally tripled after the Thailand flooding about a year and a half back now, and they haven't dropped back down very much, so expect to pay about double that for a smaller drive today unless you find a good deal or a coupon.
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I was just about to mention barebones kits, but I noticed they rarely have Video cards. The one Kao Linked + 150 dollar video card would be decent medium ish build.

Ok So a quick Tiger Direct Build, No OS, No CDRom, Before Mail In Rebates:
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459.94 (before shipping add about 10-15 dollars) Mail in rebates get you 35 back. This Build also comes with Bioshock Infinite and Tomb Raider.

So Overall you're looking at around 425 ish after rebates and shipping. You would have to salvage your old CDrom, or Put windows on a USB jumpstick (This is what I do now days) and your Old Hard Drive (Im assuming its Sata), and as Kao suggested get a OS, or use the same disk from your old pc (Assuming its not a Dell or Prebuilt)

This machine should run stuff mostly on medium to high graphics game dependant. On a my system with a lesser video card (Geforce 460 SE) I can run Batman: Arkum City 1080p with minimal slow down. You could probably run the 2 games that come with @ around medium also, maybe a few settings to low. WoW at mostly high, with draw distance at medium high and get 30+ FPS in 25 man raids with lots of casting, 50-60 outside flying around.

Edit:Also that case comes in white like that sort of thing.




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#6 Mar 14 2013 at 2:18 AM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Is there any salvageable hardware in your current machine at all?
I have a three, maybe four year old Dell(yeah, yeah, I know). I don't recall the specs, but I'll get them when I get home from work.

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The main advantage to picking individual components rather than bundling is you get more control over your end product. I'd go with a quad core CPU and a better case for a starter PC personally (probably a cooler master CM 690 II case) but you have to go with the budget too. If you go with the AMD bundles you can save some more money there, though at the lower cost end there the Intel I3 processors and motherboards are pretty comperable in cost and speed.

You'll need a minimum of a 550 watt Power supply to drive a gaming video card. Check your current PC, it may have one. also make sure it has video card 6 pin PCI express power leads and an 8 pin core voltage lead for the motherboard. Optical drives are cheap, the amount of trouble you will save by going with a new SATA drive over trying to use an old, likely IDE one is worth the $20. Hard drives last 3-5 years on average before failure, if your drive is particularily old, its probably not worth trying to build a new computer around. Your existing video card, depending on age and slot type, etc, might work as a temporary unit until more funds came available to at least get you up and running.

I'll get you the exacts of what I have when I get home and see if you think any of it is worth salvaging.
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#7 Mar 14 2013 at 2:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Also If you went with that build you could easily pawn off the 2 game codes for 25 bucks a piece, maybe more if you fight the right person, since they are brand new games. I know I would be interested in buying em for 50 bucks for the set, or so. Just another thing to consider.
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Kao http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767

59.99 -10 for a 500gig 7200 drive. Not a huge difference that invoice didnt show my "Deals" either just my paid price

Edit: Same price at Tiger Direct

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Right now, my most immediate goal on it being up to playing is FFXIV ARR, so I do have some time. As a downside, unless there's a way to legally use my current comp's windows on a new one, I'm going to be stuck buying that, though I do have a sister who is a student, so I should be able to get a student copy.

Edit: And let's be honest, I'm running Vista right now. Probably time for an upgrade anyway.

Edited, Mar 14th 2013 2:35am by Poldaran
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That system will run FF14 ARR no problem, or should, if they havent changed the graphics much since normal FF14. I played in the Beta with my system @ medium high.

If you need an OS, Im not sure how much the "Non Microsoft approved" Windows 7 on Ebays are. Windows 7 Home 64 bit is 99 on new egg, usually student copies are about half that price.

Student prices for the OS look to be around the 30-50 dollar mark. (after a quick google search)

I dont suggest Windows 8 at all.

Edit: 91 dollars on Tiger Direct.

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That's better than I was expecting. Back in the day, my student copy of XP cost around $80-100.
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Okay, here's what I have in the box.

Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 2600XT
Disk Drive: Can't see it where it's located in the box, but looking up what the device manager called it, it's a Seagate 250 GB 7200RPM.
Power Supply: 350W Smiley: frown
Optical: DVD/CDRW ATA device
Motherboard: Couldn't find anything about what model or anything it was, probably covered by one of the devices in the way.
CPU: Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @2.40GHz

Miscellanea:
-More dust than is probably healthy.
-Conexant D850 PCI V.92 Modem Smiley: laugh

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The video card has enough horsepower to be useful temporarily and should be PCI express so it will fit. Not something you would want to use long term. THe power supply especially in a dell isn't going to have the cables you need and isn't powerful enough. The hard drive would probably work and is possibly a SATA drive, but given that processor it has to be at least 5 years old so I'd reccommend buying a new one regardless. The optical drive is probably salvagable, but if it isn't SATA, there's no point.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
The optical drive is probably salvagable, but if it isn't SATA, there's no point.
If it says "ATA Device" on the device manager does that mean anything? A quick google search leads me to believe that it probably means it isn't.

Also, realistically, if I were to cannibalize the video card, would that put me somewhere close to budget, and would I be able to run ARR, even at lower settings, until I can get around to upgrading sometime in Q3 or so?

Edited, Mar 14th 2013 10:53am by Poldaran
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An awesome and generous person is offering me a 9800 GTX+ for the cost of shipping. So if we can get the rest of the parts down into budget range(I can go a little above budget if necessary, but not too much more), then I'm in business.

Thanks for all the help so far and in advance for any further help.

Edit: So, at $300 for the Barebones Kao linked(or about 280 for the setup linked by BeanX minus the graphics card), $60 for the Hard Drive BeanX linked, ~25 for a decent SATA DVD reader/burner, that should leave me in the neighborhood of $60 for an OS. Assuming I can find a student version, that should be easy enough. Of course, I'm still looking at shipping for everything, but like I said, I can go a bit over without too much concern, and I already assumed I'd probably have to for the shipping anyway.

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Grats!
Well, for the build I listed take out the Graphics card and sub in the HDD (49.99 Already Linked), OS(91, Already Linked), CDrom(10-20 Can Link if need be) and your good at the same price.
As for the 9800 GTX+ it was a decent card, Definitely awesome. I would offer you the spare GTX 460SE i have, but until I get confirmation on my student loan to build a new PC, I need to save that for the wifes PC if her laptop dies.

If you need links to each part individually I can do that also. I would recommend Tiger Direct as 1 day shipping with them is like 14 dollars for the entire order, or like 10 dollars for 3 day(YMMV state dependent). Newegg has some free shipping (7 day) but I noticed each part has its own "shipping" cost so orders can get a tad higher.


Edit: Or you could get a student copy to (that would be the cheapest bet)

Edited, Mar 14th 2013 3:42pm by BeanX
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BeanX the Irrelevant wrote:
Edit: Or you could get a student copy to (that would be the cheapest bet)
I PMed my sister on Facebook, she's gonna see if they have it at the school bookstore at a reasonable price, but if not, I'll find it online.

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I would recommend Tiger Direct as 1 day shipping with them is like 14 dollars for the entire order, or like 10 dollars for 3 day(YMMV state dependent). Newegg has some free shipping (7 day) but I noticed each part has its own "shipping" cost so orders can get a tad higher.
It has been years since I last ordered something from TigerDirect, but is that 14 dollars the entire cost or is that in addition to the base shipping cost?

Also, now that I have some idea of what to get, I have to wait for the return to be deposited(or at least until my first paycheck in April) until I can do any ordering. If anyone sees any deals that might be relevant to me during that time, I would be most appreciative if you'd give me a heads up.
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Ok Well your order has a Case in it so its a bit higher then mine was. But the options i get:

Ground 2-6 day 10.31
Free Ground with some memebership thing
2nd Day 14.96
Overnight 21.53

Im guessing the case adds on a few dollar since its size.

Btw thats the whole order fee.

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That's not bad at all. I have to ask ever since the time I wasn't paying attention while ordering a wall scroll and ended up paying $24 for regular shipment. Which took over a month.

Because apparently it was coming from China.
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That's not bad at all. I have to ask ever since the time I wasn't paying attention while ordering a wall scroll and ended up paying $24 for regular shipment. Which took over a month.

Because apparently it was coming from China.


Shipping from china shouldn't be that bad, unless I'm misinformed about the wall-scroll bulk.
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I think the cost came from all the lacquer they used to waterproof it. The cardboard tube was wrapped in three layers of tape, then covered in what smelled like lacquer, then put in a padded envelope.
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Quick thing, I was telling Family and Friends on FB I could build them PCs for around 500 bucks.
Did some more digging around, DO NOT go with the motherboard I linked you. Its only rated for a 95w CPU, The Phenom II X4 is a 125w CPU.

I went with a Biostar Motherboard instead.

And Honestly I trust them more then MSI, My Current system and My last build both had Biostars, never had a problem with them. One thing to consider though, that is an AM3 only board. So Its non upgradable, but in 2 years I highly doubt anything you buy now will be upgradable anymore. Since its looking like The Intel 1155 and AM3+ sockets are starting to faze out here soon, anyway.

Speaking of which, I built her entire system for 440(410 after MIR), Minus Hard drive and case, She sent me the Model Number off her current pc, and I was able to see what parts still work. (It was a Compaq something or other)

Edit The AM3+ version of the board is 10 dollars more

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For the record I have personally had zero problems with MSi mainboards, but make sure what you buy is rated high enough for your CPU.
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Did some more digging around, DO NOT go with the motherboard I linked you. Its only rated for a 95w CPU, The Phenom II X4 is a 125w CPU.
Glad you caught that. I would have been all lost and confused in a couple weeks. Smiley: laugh
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Yeah sorry about that. Its unusual for a motherboard to be that way. Thats the first in my time seeing it.
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Through my new job I can get upgrade keys for any of the modern OSs for dirt cheap. Unfortunately, there's not a single standard product, so there's no way I know of to use them on the actual rig...
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SIster is back in town. Taxes have arrived. Payday is Friday. Countdown begins.


BTW, is there any reason not to get Windows 7 64bit? I ask because I'm installing a new comp at work and it came with 32bit, which made me wonder if it only did so because it's not a gaming rig in any way. Mostly just a general curiosity.
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Don't go with 32 Bit, 32 bit can only read 4? gigs of ram (System + GPU combined). In todays market there is almost no reason to get 32 bit. Im honestly surprised they still make it.
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That's what I figured. Was just curious. Also, the fact that this new work comp came with Office 2010 suggests that its OS is probably a bit dated anyway. Smiley: laugh
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Workstations can probably get away with 32 bit to save a few dollars. Home/Gaming you would be severely limiting yourself. I would suggest checking the prices of everything atm deals/sales may have changed. I havent seen anything eye popping for a few days but I havent been looking.

Due to some unfortunate circumstances Im going to be moving cross country more then likely this weekend/next week and can't guarantee internet til I start school in the Fall, thats saying I can finance Non resident Schooling (5k difference). I mean the School is way better then the one I was originally planning in attending, but 3ish k tuition going to 8.5k really cuts into living expenses if I go full time like I was planning.

Looking at going to Bellevue Community College which is in Washington State, which is practically next to Redmond, WA where MS Campus and Valve are. So much more demand, but meh, Driving 2000 miles is going to suck.
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That is one **** of a long drive. I'll double check prices before I order on Friday, but if anyone sees any deals on these parts or similar ones before then during your random browsing, let me know.

In case I can't do so once it's up and running(since you might not have net for a bit), I want to thank you in advance. Thanks again for all the help so far.
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No worries, I like helping with this kind of stuff. Thats why I'm going to school for it. Figure I may as well do something I like .
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I'm putting together a quick spreadsheet to see where I'm at, and when looking up the current price on the A406-0560 case from the image up there, I can't seem to find it on Tiger. Is the A406-0561 comparable?

Also, any reason to shy away from this as my Optical Drive?

Edit: Currently at around $419, with the assumption that I somehow cannot get the Windows 7 student discount, but also not factoring in the cost of the optical drive and the shipping on that graphics card. Worst case scenario, looks like I'll be going about $70 over budget, which is more or less within acceptable parameters, since I can borrow from savings and pay it back during 3 Paycheck May.

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That Case is just the White variation I showed up farther I think, At the bottom of my post with the picture of all the parts "Edit: it comes in white if your into that sort of thing"

Wow that Blu-ray drive is cheap. LG is Ok. No bad from me on it.
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Edit Yay my first double Post :(

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Might want to see if there is a different color faceplate one otherwise its going to look a bit weird. Black on White Case.

Might want to consider this case http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1636710&CatId=1842
29.99 On Sale 4 fans included, Lifetime Warranty with Registration. Tool less clips are nice and Its black.

Edit: Note That it is a Mid-Tower not a Micro-Tower. So if you took care of the case you could probably use it later when you upgrade to a bigger Motherboard. The White one you linked Is a Micro case so its much smaller. Im Still looking at the site cause I got bored with my game Ill see if anything else stands out as cheaper then I listed you.

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Wow that Blu-ray drive is cheap. LG is Ok. No bad from me on it.

Awesome. Will be nice to have a Blu-Ray for those days I really want to watch anime but the roommates are using their PS3s.
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Might want to consider this case http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1636710&CatId=1842
29.99 On Sale 4 fans included, Lifetime Warranty with Registration. Tool less clips are nice and Its black.
Looks good to me. Will adjust my current list.
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Apex Micro Tower Case + OEM 550W Power supply 49.99 (99.99 -40 instant -10 Rebate)

Commenters saying that it has a lifetime Warranty on the no name PSU. Its 50W less than the Corsair, and a non name brand, but 600 W is a tad on the high side for what youll be running in it. Might want to consider this.

The RAM I told you to get is off discount. Patriot Viper Extreme is 54.99.

Otherwise I saw the faster version Of the Corsair XMS3 for 52.99

Kind of up to you both Brands are good.

I Like Patriot, Supposedly all ram is Hand tested before being shipped. I currently have Patriot Extreme 3 Black Mamba in my current system. No issues.

HDD: Seagate Barracuda Drive 7200 RPM, 16Mb cache is 59.99 for 500 gig
Basic Drive, I prefer Seagates to WD Blues (Blacks are comparable) but I usually go for whichever is cheapest. But Unlike kao I never have anything super important so I dont care if my HDD fails. all my important stuff gets put on a 32 Gig USB flash drive or one of my 3 externals Ive amassed.

That AM3+ Biostar Mobo is sold out atm. You could go with The AM3 variant Here
Or make kao happy with an Asus That are on sale: Here

Edit:Sorry I keep editing and posting. Im just looking around for any things I see decent and double checking the prices I gave you a while ago.

Edited, Apr 3rd 2013 4:41am by BeanX
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So adding everything up if you go with all the new stuff I linked (Pre OS/Vid card and Shipping) I got this.
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Total: 367.18 (Add 23 ish Dollars for shipping.) around 390.00 (-10.00 MIR)




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Crap. Somehow my spreadsheet was missing the Mobo. Smiley: facepalm

With the changes though, still within price range if only barely. Edit: Actually, that's better than what I had entered. So back right around price range
Edit2: Shipping's going to run about $15 for 2-6 day ground and $35 for second day air. If I get the student copy of Windows 7(which assumes I can find a 64 bit copy of 7 at the student price), then I'll go ahead and do the faster option, but if not, I can wait a few more days. Now to hope that the discounts remain when I do the actual order on Friday.



Edited, Apr 3rd 2013 4:14am by Poldaran
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if you order through newegg you can probably sign up for shoprunner and get free 2 day. then cancel it.
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if you order through newegg you can probably sign up for shoprunner and get free 2 day. then cancel it.
I'm not a fan of signing up for trials and cancelling them. I always worry about hidden fees.

That said, parts are ordered. Should arrive around next Friday.
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well there arent any :P
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Okay, so not having built a PC in somewhere around a decade, anything I should know about since the parts should be coming in by about Friday? Last time I was going to do this(unexpected expenses came up and I had to cancel on it then), I was told that things are a lot easier than they were back then. Still the case?
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Careful when putting the processor in to not bend any pins, make sure the Arrow on the corner of the chip and the board match. Make sure to get a good seat when you put the Heatsink on the CPU Chip, if possible grab a bottle of Arctic silver from a local computer shop , use that instead of the stuff that comes on the heatsink.
Otherwise just make sure everything is seated snuggly, I guess.
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That part sounds about the same as I remember from back in the day, aside from the Arctic Silver.
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If you do use arctic silver clean the pre applied stuff off with a little rubbing alcohol and a clean non fuzzy rag

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I shall keep that in mind. Any major benefit to it over the stuff it comes with if I'm not going to be overclocking?
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Not hugely. Overall better Heat dispersion, but you should be fine with stock paste if you have to.
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part of that depends on your application skill too. if you get air bubbles in the artic silver, it will technically be worse than the stock stuff.
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Ah, well I dumped Dex at character creation so I could buy up my Int and Cha, so that's probably not a good idea for me, then.
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