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Yeah, gift-giving is just a giant **** measuring contest. It just causes grief and most of the time people get you ******* useless stuff that'll just take up space.

Still gonna try and have a little celebration for Eid. The thing with Eid is that it's a lot like Christmas. Well, it's in the middle of the summer at the moment, but family gets together and you have a feast and there is gift giving, but it's traditionally only money, and everyone gives something to the ones who are younger than them, so there's no pressure to reciprocate.

While the commercialization of Christmas bothers me somewhat, it doesn't bother me nearly as much as the fact that your celebrating something and someone that clearly didn't exist, at least not in the sense he's portrayed in the bible. Was there a dude 2000 years ago that was called Jesus? It's more than likely. Was he a carpenter? I'm willing to say there was a few carpenters called Jesus. Did he freaking heal people just by touching them? Hell no.

I did. Funny as hell show.

My point was to show that extremist christians, jews and musilums etc are no different than Sgriob. All are hateful and intolerant of others beliefs. My job is done here....

I'm not hateful of Religion. Only Christianity, with a few minor problems with Islam, but that's mostly due to fundamentalists like Bin Laden. I think it's absolutely despicable. "Love thy neighbour" and then, "don't worry we only killed brown people in the crusades, it's not like it matters". The Church should be trying to make up for the **** they pulled during the crusades for the rest of eternity, as far as I'm concerned.

That, and the Vatican shuffling around paedophile priests to make sure they aren't reported to the police? It's absolutely abhorrent.

Also: Westboro baptist Church. Now, I know they're right on the fringe of Christianity, but there's A LOT of crazy Christians that go all fire and brimstone on your *** if you even mention homosexuality. Proportionally, I'm willing to bet that there's more Zealous Christians, than there is Atheists, and they'll be a lot more in your face about their religion.

If it looks like a horse and quacks like a horse…

Wait, I think I got the expression wrong.

I don't mind people using the Bible as some sort of guide on how to be a better person, but, haven't we reached the point in time where people will be good if they want to, regardless if they've got some all powerful being to be scared of? For instance, That dude in Norway, claimed he was a Christian, so, by the logic of "thou shalt not kill", he's going to hell, in his mind. He did it anyway. You don't need to be anti abortion, anti homosexual, and anti anything that doesn't agree with a book of fairy tails that was started almost four milenia ago to be a good person. People that take the bible as literal fact make me want to break things.

Posting from the droid 3 is much faster than posting from the droid 1.

Religions aren't too bad if you don't count the people who "follow" them.

AFAIK, we have absolutely no records of Jesus existence outside of the bible. I've never doubted the basic stuff in the story though--I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was a Jewish carpenter who ended up getting crucified because his new teachings conflicted with Judaic laws of the time.

But there are many details that are almost certainly false in the bible story, because they make no sense historically (even ignoring the miracles stuff). For instance, it is highly unlikely that he was hung from a cross. He was probably forced to carry some kind of burden (possibly a cross), but crosses were reserved for the most high-profile crucifixions of Roman enemies. Jesus definitely would not have qualified. Romans didn't mind him, because he was encouraging people to pay taxes and follow their laws. The only reason he was crucified was to keep the peace.

He was actually in all likelihood hung from a tree on the side of a well-traveled trade route (similar to how pirates were hung at port entrances). The cross story is either because the story changed over time, or was intentionally changed to make his death seem more important. We don't actually have any records that suggest it was the apostles who wrote the gospels, so either are equally likely really, even assuming they were legitimately honest people.

People have tried to make the argument that he was forced to be crucified on a cross by the Jewish peoples of the city. But that still fails to explain why the petty criminals who were already on crosses when he arrived were, well, on crosses.

I have no (or at least very few) doubts that the historical figure of Jesus existed. I don't believe he could perform miracles, of course. And I think his story changed greatly over time to seem... more impressive. Which isn't surprising at all, really, when you think about the fact that Christianity was essentially an illegal roman cult for 400 years. Is it so hard to see why the idea of him being crucified as an enemy of Rome would be so appealing (and empowering)?

But that all of this was based on a man seems fair. The proof of Muhammad existing is more substantial, and you can see how large of a religion he spawned.

Hey look what I can do too!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

Heres an excerpt:

Although a few scholars have questioned the existence of Jesus as an actual historical figure[46] most scholars involved with historical Jesus research believe his existence can be established using documentary and other evidence.[47][48][49][50][51][52] As discussed in the sections immediately below, the estimation of the year of death of Jesus places his lifespan around the beginning of the AD first century (first century CE), in the geographic region of Roman Judaea.[53][54][55][56][57] The New Testament also refers to the Sea of Galilee which is about 75 miles north of Jerusalem.[

If its in Wiki it must be true!!

Seriously, Stop the hate. Yahwee, Muhammed, Jesus only spoke of peace.If you dont beleie that then you must be a dumbass.

The asylum, this is not it. Keep the silly (hating on people) hating on religion stuff in there please. The bible is a book of stories, myths, legends or whatever you prefer calling them. It really doesn't matter if people believe in them or not as long as they don't bother me with it.