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#8277 Jul 20 2011 at 10:55 PM Rating: Good
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Factions aren't limited to Christianity, by any means. Islam's two major factions absolutely hate each other. And it's particularly odd, because they only seriously differ on two points (both of which refer to who is allowed to lead them).

Judaism has sects, but they don't really hate each other. But that's because the most orthodox groups don't see the reform groups as heretics, per se. More like they are just no longer Jewish in their eyes. They aren't really "Conver to my religion or GTFO" people. More like "You want to convert to my religion? GTFO."

1200-1500 Italy, in particular, are heinous when it comes to Christian sects warring. This was a time when they were ALL CATHOLIC, but they would burn monks at the stake as heretics for the stupidest reasons (like believing that clergy should be poor or rich--both sides killed the other). There were points when they actually had multiple popes, and multiple leaders for the Holy Roman Empire--it's absurd.
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#8278 Jul 21 2011 at 1:04 AM Rating: Good
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Religion is funny. If I were to turn to any, it would probably be the Church of Satan, but even they have silly rituals.

For now I'm just content with worshipping my interpretation of the common goal in most religions: enjoying life and treating people like I'd want them to treat me.
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For now I'm just content with worshipping my interpretation of the common goal in most religions: enjoying life and treating people like I'd want them to treat me brainwashing others for power and money!


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#8280 Jul 21 2011 at 1:17 AM Rating: Good
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I was also wondering, if I were to procreate with someone who would bring a language that isn't one of 'mine' into the picture, how do people decide which languages to raise their children in? Logically, I'd go for the most widely spoken ones (including English) or ones very similar to linguae francae (e.g. Urdu -> Hindi). But I think it's important to give children a sense of identity and while I think national pride and all that is a bunch of rubbish, I think language is an important part of culture and children should be encouraged to understand their parents' culture. I know how awful it is when there's such a huge cultural shift between generations that communication becomes very difficult, and I really want to try avoiding that if and when I have kids...
Why choose just one? Being bilingual is awesome.

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Another thing you can do that I've thought of in the past, is to have one parent speak one language to your child, and the other parents speak to them in another language. At least until they're old enough to differentiate between the two languages. I don't know if that would actually work, but it's something I've thought of in the past. 'Cause yeah, I love the idea of raising my kids to be bilingual, it's a huge advantage in this country.
My mom's best friend has done a lot of raising her daughter alone (she's 9 or 10 now I think) and the girl is fluent in French and Dutch, although her Dutch isn't quite as good because she lives in France.
#8281 Jul 21 2011 at 2:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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In my house there is a child being taught English, Polish and an African language (no idea which one), it's sort of strange listening to the parents switching between different languages, but the kid seems to follow fairly well. I think it's mostly about exposure, if you will regularly be speaking a range of languages then a child will most likely be able to pick them up and learn to differentiate.

I was on a train a few weeks ago and there was a family on the train speaking to each other in English, but the two children were doing written exercises in Indian workbooks. Makes me wish I was better at learning new languages (or had enough motivation for it).
#8282 Jul 21 2011 at 3:19 AM Rating: Good
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In my house there is a child being taught English, Polish and an African language (no idea which one), it's sort of strange listening to the parents switching between different languages, but the kid seems to follow fairly well. I think it's mostly about exposure, if you will regularly be speaking a range of languages then a child will most likely be able to pick them up and learn to differentiate.

I was on a train a few weeks ago and there was a family on the train speaking to each other in English, but the two children were doing written exercises in Indian workbooks. Makes me wish I was better at learning new languages (or had enough motivation for it).


Regarding the exposure thing.

Back in college I hung out with a lot of Swedes. They would often speak Swedish. Over the course of the years we were in school I picked up some phrases, words and could often get the gist of what they were talking about. A few of my other buddies that weren't Swedish either understood more or less than I as they also had that high exposure level.
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#8283 Jul 21 2011 at 3:59 AM Rating: Good
Me too Tynuv, me too. Languages are one of those things where my nerd side and my lazy *** side butt heads. I absolutely love the idea of learning languages in theory. In practice though... it ends up being more work than I want to do for something that I think is fun. Hopefully one of these days I can get better control of my lazy *** side and actually learn some languages.

Also, I'm going to a pirate event this weekend so I won't be around until Monday or Tuesday. Leaving tomorrow afternoon, and I probably won't have time to pop on here before I leave. <3 you guys!
#8284 Jul 21 2011 at 4:24 AM Rating: Good
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Have fun Pigtails!
And I'll be happy to teach you Dutch swearwords Smiley: wink
#8285 Jul 21 2011 at 4:30 AM Rating: Good
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Haha! Thanks for making my morning alot brighter :D

Also, can someone teach me how to quote like a pro? I think I'm doing it wrong.
#8286 Jul 21 2011 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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Each [quote] tag needs to be closed with a [/quote] tag.

So if you're quoting someone quoting someone else, you need a set of quote tags for both. The first closing tag will close the last opening tag.

[quote=Mazra][quote=smunks]Also, can someone teach me how to quote like a pro?[/quote][/quote]

Green closes green, pink-ish closes pink-ish.

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Also, can someone teach me how to quote like a pro?


Just remember, the first closing tag will close the last opening tag.

Ps. I want the old colors back.
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#8287 Jul 21 2011 at 7:46 AM Rating: Good
Who said I was going for one language, anyway?

The issues is more with the parents both being bi/trilingual and when you have 4-5 languages to choose from that are all culturally relevant.


And yeah, I'm not saying any religion is good. I'm just tired of the insane hypocrisy of nearly every "Christian" I have met.

And sectarian wars never really seem to concern the people. I mean, I totally joke about Catholics sometimes but I don't know any Christian who would actually disapprove of someone because they follow a different tradition. Similarly, my Sunni friends don't hate Shiites. They hang out with them and whatever and it doesn't matter.


About Urdu: It's actually a really culturally irrelevant language. It's primarily the language of the Muhajir, who are essentially migrants. The main reason I think it'd be good is because it is pretty much Hindi with some Muslim loanwords.
#8288 Jul 21 2011 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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And sectarian wars never really seem to concern the people. I mean, I totally joke about Catholics sometimes but I don't know any Christian who would actually disapprove of someone because they follow a different tradition.
A girl in my class is some sort of Christian (can't remember which) but she literally said to me that Catholics are "the wrong kind of Christian" and that Catholicism isn't like "real" Christianity at all.
Then again, she also "doesn't believe in evolution" so.. yeah...
#8289 Jul 21 2011 at 9:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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I wouldn't even say Christians have majority stock, they just have a loud voice and are the most prominent religion in the world's most prominent nation. 24/7 cable news coverage doesn't help. As with most religions, the vast majority of people are reasonable, intelligent, and well-adjusted. It's the 1% that stands out.
#8290 Jul 21 2011 at 10:03 AM Rating: Good
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FML, someone managed to get access to my iTunes account and ordered $100 worth of crap songs to someone with the email address kim123356@hotmail.com

Now my card's been cancelled and it'll take forever to get a new one. And I get the joy of having to go through all my various accounts to change passwords around.
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#8291 Jul 21 2011 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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Call your card and file against the fraudulent charges, and give the email to them to track down.
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#8292 Jul 21 2011 at 10:19 AM Rating: Good
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The bank closed the card and ordered a new one. Apple has been notified and will contact me tomorrow.

What's odd is that the purchase was made on the 17th, but nothing has been withdrawn from my account yet. Usually iTunes purchases are withdrawn on the same day. At least that's been my experience.
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#8293 Jul 21 2011 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the help Maz. :>
#8294 Jul 21 2011 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
That really sucks Maz, I hope the process of getting things fixed is relatively painless.

@Kali: If both parents are bi or multilingual, the choices do become more difficult. I would say that teaching your children English and then maybe one of the more obscure languages the two of you know would be a good option. English is currently the language of business, and it's widely used across Europe (duh, why am I telling a European this? lol), so it would definitely be a good investment for people to learn. That said, teaching a child an obscure language that not a lot of people know is cool, but how useful is it going to be? Are you going to use it enough that you will both retain that language? Also look at your motivation for teaching your children multiple languages at an early age. Is it for nerd cred? Or are you doing it to give them an edge in life and for the practicality of it?

As far as religion stuffs go, I obviously can't speak for Europe, but there are plenty of Christian sects here in the US that believe that others are wrong and that they're going to hell because they aren't the "right" kind of Christian. Baptists are notorious for this (J was raised Baptist, but he's more agnostic now than anything), and most of Christendom is guilty of thinking this way about Mormons because they're "different." What's stupid is that as far as I can tell, there isn't that much difference between the different Christian sects. A lot of the more modern Christian sects believe in a more personal relationship with God, where as Catholics and Episcopalians like to have their priests as middle men via confession. I think the only real difference is that Christians don't hate each other enough to kill each other the way the two different Muslim sects do.

Okay, this is really my last post before I leave. =x Need to go get packed.
#8295 Jul 21 2011 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good
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#8296 Jul 21 2011 at 2:35 PM Rating: Good
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Well, getting naked is often the step before getting packed.
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#8297 Jul 21 2011 at 8:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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#8298 Jul 21 2011 at 10:00 PM Rating: Good
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Your post count is so pathetic, why not?
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#8299 Jul 22 2011 at 12:49 AM Rating: Good
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Well, getting naked is often the step before getting packed.
I thought that you were only supposed to get naked once you get to your destination? Traveling naked seems a little unpleasant to me.
#8300 Jul 22 2011 at 12:50 AM Rating: Good
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Different kind of packing. Smiley: sly
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#8301 Jul 22 2011 at 12:51 AM Rating: Good
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Also Horse, you're Hawaiian right?
There's a thread about moving to Hawaii here.
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