If you have someone to skin the beast...Follow

Considering they didn't know you needed >300 to skin the Beast, it's also quite likely they didn't know for certain where exactly they were in the dungeon. I'd be more inclined to think they were all around pretty unfamiliar with UBRS, maybe even first-timers (at least for whoever was leading the raid).

Did you even know these people?

Sorry you had a rough hour, there.

I too can skin the beast.

I have 315 skinning skill :)

While I agree that people should be up front about things I don't know that it's fair to hold these guys that responsible. It at least sounds like an honest mistake. It only makes sense to people here that 315 skinning exists because you've experienced that aspect of the game. For example, someone that hasn't done ZG probably would never know that you can get Bloodscythe and start harvesting Bloodvine while herbing in there. I would actually think you should expect things to "not" go well and "not" be smooth when coming into a group that you know very little about.

I agree, it's a bummer that things didn't go well. It was nice of you to give it a try, but I don't think you should get that upset given the scenario.

Wondrous, the OP doesn't care about the result of the skinning, the way I see it, there is a gnome quest giver that only appears when you skin the beast, apparently he was inside it :)

And honestly, the only reason the goat went in there was because he was convinced that he could get his quest.

Aegis, in turn, made the mistake of not enquiring about the skinner and asking him about his skill as soon as he saw they weren't already at the beast. After all, if they are careless/clueless enough to lie about the first part, why trust them about the second?

Ah, thanks Dan- I haven't been in a group in UBRS that could skin The Beast yet, ironically enough- so I didn't know that part. I just knew that the pristine hide was skinned from it. I still have a problem with the word "lie" though- it suggests a willful misleading, whereas it still could have been newbness (as opposed to noobness) on the part of whoever Aegis whispered.

And no I wasn't interested in the hide I was just looking to get the quest from the gnome.

Finkle's Skinner + Formula: Enchant Gloves - Skinning

Dorsa, you can actually get your skinning level to 325, IIRC.

Finkle's Skinner gives you +10 to skinning.
Zulian Slicer also gives you +10 to skinning.
Enchant Gloves - Skinning can give you a further +5 to skinning.

If you're capped at 300, you can get all three to give you a grand total of 325 skill.

They did completely waste his time, BUT, they apparently they were all noobs, anddid not know you needed 315 to skin the beast.

Its too bad that people are so stupid, but In all reality, they were trying to help. What if they would have had someone who could do it, and you got your hide. Then, you would be one happy mage.

It was worth the chance in my opinion.

It may be me, since I don't know all the details. Aegis may well have been willing to run from Rend beforehand if they'd told him in advance, but I've seen people advertising on LFG that they're only willing to join a group if the group is at a certain point or boss. To me, that's entirely selfish, since it's basically saying that the person doesn't want to have to have the effort of taking the time to get to that point, but wants the rewards from that point onwards.

If someone joins a group just before a given point because the group is short, that's one thing. But to dictate that you'll only join a group once it gets to a certain point is, IMO, very selfish and conceited (it suggests "my time is more important than your time, so you clear the path and I'll join in when I think it befits me"), and it pretty much guarantees that if I do a run, invite you and you decline until X point that you will not be invited, even if we do need someone extra by that point.

As I said, I don't know if this applies to the OP, but that's how I interpreted the post. Yes, the person screwed up (not the group, unless Aegis spoke with everyone in the group), but it may have just been unfortunate misunderstanding rather than deliberate or malicious.

I feel your pain. While there are still a few items that could drop in UBRS that might interest me, the questing is the most important reason to go there.

I need one more trip to get my Drakefire Amulet and then I am done with the place on my 60 mage.

I am wondering why you want this quest. I can think of several hats that are much better for a mage than the cap of the scarlet savant that you get from this quest. This includes two hats from UBRS. I'll take the dragonskin cowl or the spellweavers turban any day of the week over that lousy blue masquerading as a purple. I was so unimpressed that I dropped the quest as soon as I saw the reward.

Really? Did you forget to read this;




Apparently someone did know.

The problem was the leader lied to the OP. They lead them to believe something that wasn't true. Sure the skinner didn't know but the leader should have made sure before telling someone something that wasn't true. You're assuming the OP is just there to get what he wants and get out when it was the leader of the group getting more members by misleading them with broken promises. All they need to do is be up front about it. Say 'well I guess we don't have that or can't do that'. It sounds to me like the OP was still going with them on one toon or the other and which one went was depending on if they had the ability to obtain that quest.

Let's say I needed the carrot quest in ZF. Now if a group asks if I want to go and tell me they have the mallet when they don't then they're wasting my time. If they did have the mallet I'd still stick around to finish the whole zone.
I have no problem helping others but if someone lies to get what they want (and this is what happened to the op) then I'll leave and have no problem doing so.