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#1 Nov 27 2006 at 1:17 AM Rating: Decent
I must say i am a bit confused about all the threads people start and complain about money problems. I started playing WOW 3 weeks ago and since I prefer to do things the right way, I started reading through different forums. I soon realized that a lot of people seems to have problem getting the gold for the mount av lev. 40, but how is that possible?

I used the first week to get to know the game and soon found out that if you want to make money, the Auction House is the way to do it. I started with only 2g (after one week of confusion he he) and 2 weeks later I have close to 250.
#2 Nov 27 2006 at 1:37 AM Rating: Decent
Zirrio wrote:
I must say i am a bit confused about all the threads people start and complain about money problems. I started playing WOW 3 weeks ago and since I prefer to do things the right way, I started reading through different forums. I soon realized that a lot of people seems to have problem getting the gold for the mount av lev. 40, but how is that possible?

I used the first week to get to know the game and soon found out that if you want to make money, the Auction House is the way to do it. I started with only 2g (after one week of confusion he he) and 2 weeks later I have close to 250.


QFT

I agree, I have never had any problems making gold in WoW. The problem with most people who post 'how do I make quick gold' is they are not prepared to do do any work for it. They think there is some special, secret place where the paths are paved with gold and all the need to do is turn up and get rich.

why don't they try reading 1 of the many, many posts on how to get gold instead of the constant 'I need cash quick'post.
#3 Nov 27 2006 at 6:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ah, the ironies of "making money" from the auction house. The AH is a zero-sum system (not counting the transaction fees.) All-in-all, the economy doesn't gain money from the auction house; it just changes hands. If you were playing on a brand new server and nobody else had hundreds or maybe thousands of gold lying around, you wouldn't make your mount money from the AH.

That said, some people are shrewd businessmen, and some people don't like to spend their lives in front of the auctioneers.
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#4 Nov 27 2006 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
A friend of mine just buys stupid crap all the time. If he sees a weapon he wants he'll buy it.
#5 Nov 27 2006 at 6:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah you can make good money on the AH. Just yesterday I was looking for perfect deviate scale on the AH and saw a deviate scale belt up for 6g, bought it and resold it for 34g. I know that was quite lucky but it was not the first time I've done something like nor the biggest profit.
#6 Nov 27 2006 at 6:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah you can make good money on the AH. Just yesterday I was looking for perfect deviate scale on the AH and saw a deviate scale belt up for 6g, bought it and resold it for 34g. I know that was quite lucky but it was not the first time I've done something like nor the biggest profit.

I have bad luck with the AH. I buy underpriced stuff to resell, but then end up stuck with it. And I'm not even marking it back up that much.
Or worse yet, people will flood the market with the underpriced items...
*sigh*
Also, stonescale eels don't sell for crap on my server. They're down to about 50s each, when they DO sell.

-T.
#7 Nov 27 2006 at 6:48 AM Rating: Decent
ViralVD wrote:
Yeah you can make good money on the AH. Just yesterday I was looking for perfect deviate scale on the AH and saw a deviate scale belt up for 6g, bought it and resold it for 34g. I know that was quite lucky but it was not the first time I've done something like nor the biggest profit.


Somebody paid 34g for that belt? Wow, those things only go for like 10g on my server (last time i checked).
#8 Nov 27 2006 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Personally I use the AH as my main source of income as well, but not in the sense that I camp out looking for good deals. During the course of grinding you're undoubtably going to gets bags full of items... many of which are mats... which is where real money lies in the AH. Whether it's enchanting materials, ore, cloth, leather, herbs. People with good chunks of gold would rather spend 20g in the AH than spend an hour of their time searching for a given mat.

However, getting back to the OP's topic. The reason people have trouble making money is that very few take the time to research the way you have and even less take the time to put the knowledge into practice. All you can do is continue to enjoy the gold you're making. Sounds like you have the right idea!
#9 Nov 27 2006 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Also, stonescale eels don't sell for crap on my server. They're down to about 50s each, when they DO sell.


Blame ohmikeghod, hehe.
#10 Nov 27 2006 at 9:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Blame ohmikeghod, hehe.


No. Blame stonescale eel frenzies.

Still, half a gold apiece for fish you can catch in bulk at level 25? Not as good as back in the day, but still worth a bit of time.

Those that complain about not having money usually do nothing but hack'n'slash.
#11 Nov 27 2006 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
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I recently rerolled on a brand new server. And the AH has been very tough to make money on. Seems like everyone had done some homework and there were leather, bars and herbs and fish out the ying-yang so nothing sells for very much. However, I did manage to have 100g by the time I hit 40, and at 45 now I am up to 110g again. Even with no stonescales selling, switching at 40 from skinning to alchemy and the tokens I get from war effort supplies all going to Darnassus rep.

One of my big things-fishing the tournament(close to 100 fish in 2 hours is about 5g on a turn in, not too bad) and fishing the wreckage. I've gotten my 14slot bags from wreckage, and plenty of runecloth, leather and greens that sell on the AH. I've also been careful to stick with quested items that I wear as opposed to spending money on the AH. Though I still buy cool hats when I see them-my second mage has become a hat collector too. Heh.
#12 Nov 27 2006 at 9:41 AM Rating: Good
I have to admit, I'm rather disappointed in the recent burst of posts on the same page about "I'm poor, how do I make money?". I must admit that not everyone can see trends or figure out effective ways to make money in the game (I have a friend whose main source of income is still farming beasts in Felwood and selling the drops to vendors- I have no idea how he can afford much), but when I've literally responded to three posts in a row within a day, all on the first page, with the link to my guide (which I still give much credit to all the member feedback & input), it gets disheartening to see that they didn't even bother to see if the same post had already been made and replied to on the first page, much less in the sticky. Smiley: disappointed
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#13 Nov 27 2006 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
Tepetkhet the Shady wrote:
Also, stonescale eels don't sell for crap on my server. They're down to about 50s each, when they DO sell.

Someone turning down 10G for 1 stack of Stonesacle? It must be nice to be rich enough to do that, especially since it's so easy to catch a stack.
#14 Nov 27 2006 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
My server has recently hit an all-time low for Stonescales, much to my dismay. I put up a stack of 10 for 4G, and they were returned to me unpurchased. I checked the AH, and a stack of twenty was up for 7G. Smiley: cry
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#15 Nov 27 2006 at 10:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Also, stonescale eels don't sell for crap on my server. They're down to about 50s each, when they DO sell.


Blame ohmikeghod, hehe.


why do you blame ohmikeghod? did he write a guide or somethin about catchin em?

and Sjans, 10g for an easy-to-catch stack of fish is pretty good.

im off to go catch some fishies!!
#16 Nov 27 2006 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
ohmikeghod the Venerable wrote:
Tepetkhet the Shady wrote:
Also, stonescale eels don't sell for crap on my server. They're down to about 50s each, when they DO sell.

Someone turning down 10G for 1 stack of Stonesacle? It must be nice to be rich enough to do that, especially since it's so easy to catch a stack.

Take a look at this. I remember when the median price was 1g+ apiece.
And bread used to cost 25 cents a loaf...
heh

And yes, Ohmikeghod is the #1 fishing cheerleader around here as a way to make money. I think I'd have better luck farming in Silithus or something. I can get runecloth for bandages and sell the twilight texts for 1g apiece, plus random other cool drops and sometimes healing pots. I can also pickpocket and then cannibalize the humans, all while earning Cenarion Circle rep. It's a win-win situation.

-T.
#17 Nov 27 2006 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
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The best way to make money, is to SAVE money.


Don't buy off from the AH. Quest or Instance for all of your gear. Sell everything you get.
#18 Nov 27 2006 at 11:42 PM Rating: Decent
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why do you blame ohmikeghod? did he write a guide or somethin about catchin em?


Its a joke, ohmikeghod advertises stonescale eel fishing to anyone who even mentions WoW gold grinding.
Im more of an "capitalizing on a current trend" person myself, like AOE grinding deviate hides in WC ( sold very well on neutral AH, then evil bat eyes in EPL, texts in silithus, essences of nature in DM. (bout in that order)
Buying cards of the AH and combining and reselling for double worked well too.


Edited, Nov 28th 2006 2:50am by Sjans
#19 Nov 27 2006 at 11:47 PM Rating: Good
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Tepetkhet the Shady wrote:
It's a win-win situation.


Not for the Cultists. Because now they're dead.

And eaten.
#20 Nov 27 2006 at 11:50 PM Rating: Good
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Tepetkhet the Shady wrote:
I think I'd have better luck farming in Silithus or something. I can get runecloth for bandages and sell the twilight texts for 1g apiece, plus random other cool drops and sometimes healing pots. I can also pickpocket and then cannibalize the humans, all while earning Cenarion Circle rep. It's a win-win situation.

-T.


Hands off the silithus farming, thats MINE >_>

I'd be willing to share maybe though Smiley: lol

I'm actually sitting on about 40 texts atm gotten from random farming/killing sessions (maybe 2 or 3 sessions) and trying to decide if I want to sell them for 1g each or save and turn them in for rep. Besides the exalted stuff (weapon and trinket to be precise) none of the rep gear really interests me that much. With the expansion roughly one and a half months away i'm wondering if I should even bother trying to gain rep with them. I'll probably just replace that fairly quick with something else gotten from outland or an instance or something.

Edited, Nov 27th 2006 11:51pm by Tomec
#21 Nov 28 2006 at 12:05 AM Rating: Decent
I spend some time at the AH each day where I try to buy what I consider cheap (with the help of auctioneer and common sence). I have done several mistakes though but as in real life, thats the only way to mend one´s ways. I have set up a few rules that I try to follow when I consider what to buy.

1. Check out the vendor price, if its high then it will cost too much gold to post the item in the AH. No reason to buy a sword that might go for 10g for 5g if it costs 2g 30s to post it.
2. Do not buy a cheap item if there is a lot for sale at a higher price.
3. Never buy green items (unless for disenchanting).
4. Never buy an item unless its 50% below market price (then you can afford to post it for several days and still make money).


Since I spend some time at the AH, I always buy the best equipment possible for my char and some enchants as well. That reduces my downtime when questing or grinding. I used to skin and mine, but dont anymore since it is time consuming (regrettfully I cant play as much as I would like....).

I beleive that gemcutting will be quite popular in a short time and I have started to stockpile mats that will be used for leveling. I hope that is a good idea....
#22 Nov 28 2006 at 1:38 AM Rating: Decent
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There is a lot of people who have started stockpiling mats for the Jewelcrafting thing. And yes, I believe strongly that it 'can' make money.

However, i see one potential problem for this. Only people who have been playing for a while already will have enough gold to powerlevel themselves through the Jewelcraft profession. And i'm guessing some of the people who do it will have already gathered a massive stockpile of their own mats, and won't be buying any from AH. Or, in my case, since i'm all about saving gold/time (since i'm more of a casual gamer, it doesn't matter to me how long things take) some people will just take up mining to coincide with the jewelcrafting.

One major money cash-cow i see coming in is Enchanting. First guild to raid and pop through instances to disenchant the 60+ greens will make a buttload off the new enchanting materials. A buttload.

and all the disenchanting alts (well most at least) won't be a problem anymore and a lot of underpriced/good low level armor will start to become available again. Even though most "of the Wolf/Boar" Is still pretty worthless, imo.

#23 Nov 28 2006 at 2:01 AM Rating: Decent
Webjunky the Braindead wrote:
The best way to make money, is to SAVE money.

Don't buy off from the AH. Quest or Instance for all of your gear. Sell everything you get.

I don't save money. I spend lots on getting good armor and weapons on the AH. Making money is so easy that it takes less than one day away from questing/grinding to buy a L40 mount. Same goes for the epic mount - a few days of gold farming, and the gold is there.
#24 Nov 28 2006 at 5:47 AM Rating: Decent
i have found it depends on the class and the tradeskills you choose.

my priest and rogue neither had any problems with getting coin for their mount. rogue did it via skinning and leather working as well as being horde side buying/selling a select set of books for good markup.

the priest did zero trade skills other then basic tailoring and on his server cloth sells like mad. so i just sold all of the cloth and made mad money. im talking 1g for a stack of LINEN CLOTH... mad money for cloth.

now my warrior on the other hand was having a devil of a time getting his coin for the mount... why? simple i kept spending money on herbs for alch and buying better and better gear in the AH so i could be a better MT for groups. by the time i hit 30th i did not have the coin to even train let alone be any place near the amount of coin i needed for a mount in a few levels...

luck has it i also have a 60th that i just started farming SM with and in less then 1 week (about 4hrs total game play for me) my little L37 warrior has roughly 110g and a BUNCH of new blue armor and weapons. heck even got him his whirlwind axe the other night at L36... bad a$$ weapon as that is the first time he has pulled out a 2h since he started. he has been board/sick combo since L1.

now again i will state it depends no how you play your toon and what server you are on as to how easy it is to make money. some servers and sides of servers are easier to make coin then others, but there is ALWAYS a way to make coin. the AH is just one of the many tools to do so.
#25 Nov 28 2006 at 7:39 AM Rating: Decent
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The thing that destroyed the Stonescale Eel market was when they released the patch that put pools of them out there. Much easier for everyone to get them that way and more of them on the market. Seems like most times something is being used for major money making like that... Blizz does a move that waters it down. Hehe, anyone seen the price of Black Diamonds since they changed the drop rate? Sheesh!
#26 Nov 28 2006 at 7:51 AM Rating: Decent
for those who want to make money quick...

WAKE UP FOLKS!!!

real life or in-game money is earned through intelligent spending, planning and hard work...

i had 200g by the time i had my mount... not including another 150-200g i gave out to guildies...

lvl 1-50 skinning/mining
lvl 55-60 spent gold on Imperial (warr) and got rest from instances...

1) loot all, sell all... (i still loot the candles & apples from Elwyn Forest!)
2) spend gold in AH only to upgrade my gear at every 10 levels...
3) looked for bargains to flip at AH... flipping epics at AH is fun but it can really hurt if it dont sell... so i buy warr epics (skullflame, Destiny...) at a bargain at WTS channel, post it at AH for a couple of times... it dont sell, i use it...

recently made 50g on Skullflame...

but seriously, save and plan your spendings...



Edited, Nov 28th 2006 10:55am by Kinghong
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