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*gives Poldaran a shot with the binary data for the patch in a silicon fluid*

There there, it's ok.

*fails to mention that there is also some tranquilizer in sais shot to calm him down*

jklotrol, you are the man!

I don't care what the other guys say.

So I just noticed that the Rune of Perfection is gone from the WSG vendor, but there are two rune of duties. Is this simply a mis-type, or is the rune really going away in favor of something else?

Or am I just imagining things and the rune of perfection got changed a long time ago?

They have 2 lvl's for the runes - lvl20 and 40 so my guess is that is what they are for the rune of duty. As for rune of perfection they sold in the live version (lvl40 one) 2 days ago as I just bought one. Maybe they don't list it for a rogue as they are caster specific? Or it is possible that they might disappear but strange.

edit: oh sry forgot to thank you for the original link. Nice work and so greatly appreciated!

Edited, Nov 28th 2006 4:27pm by dashwoe

Ahh yes, my bet is that's exactly what caused it to not appear.

Ps: rate-ups for everyone who replied. I'm glad I could help ya'll out.

I just noticed it seems like there's an upgrade for the Insignia of the alliance, with Medalian of the Alliance. And then there's another which is Talisman of the Alliance. Any idea what they do? Or the Gems and the Pendants? (Pendants needing the new BG tokens)

I wonder, I wonder,
Should I go Paladin or Hunter?

Woah, that (almost) rhymed!

It's always scary to see just how fast some caster can drop someone... for example my guild runs ZG and we kill the person who gets MC'd by the piles (for fun) and several times it has been our T2 geared MT. Both times the "fight" goes something like full health to 1/2 health in about 2 seconds as the first of the lock's shadowbolt hits, then almost instantly to dead. Literally talking less then 5 seconds total really. I see the same thing in PvP with mages and locks (when they aren't busy fear kiting someone with the metric ton of DoTs) where someone just drops almost instantly. The problem really is a lot of people don't get spell resist sets for PvP, so that shadowbolt with like 4k base damage* will hit for 4k, maybe slightly less depending on the random, LOW resist on gear. Whereas say a rogue's 2k base damage* special will have armor and defense and such tossed into the mix also, which will make a bigger difference then the say 50 or less spell resist** on gear.

Like you said, we'll just have to wait and see how it is when everything goes live... I do know that hunters are recieving a pretty major nerf (and it may be this way for rogues a bit too although in a different way then hunters) until TBC comes out because they aren't (or are they, but I haven't heard anything about it) doing the full reitemzation, they are just changing things like +crit and hit to the new system, but not changing the stats otherwise until TBC. This means that for hunters at least our DPS is effectively being cut in half with the AP change. Look at, say the giantstalker helm on live and test (tbc I assume) Currently it gives 46 AP, but unless it changes in the patch to exactly what is listed on the test link, it will only give 23.

Now, I could be totally wrong and they are going to do the full reitemzation for that, and if so I guess i'moff on what could possibly be effecting rogues... Well, again, I guess it'll be a wait and see.

*I don't know exact numbers, just pulling numbers out of thin air really

**I don't know the exact formulas for how armor and def come into play for abilities and non-spell damage and such, however I do know that I hit for way more on someone wearing cloth than someone wearing plate... so it does come into play somewhat, and even though spells do tend to hit for more per cast and dps (2 second 1k damage cast=500dps roughly, again pulling numbers out of thin air) then abilities/weapons people have less resist then armor when the calc is all done i'd bet.

Fear not, it's a class specific item, and the character I took the screenshots with isn't one of the classes that can use it.

The AB vendor is interesting in that respect, he'll show you ALL the items rather then just the ones you can purchase. However, that doesn't mean you can purchase them (I tried when I had extra gold one day) so no, that wont work. HOWEVER, if you COULD buy them (not that you can) you could use them come the patch this tuesday because rep no longer matters at all for the rewards. Why would bliizard make you spend tokens and honor on something only be told you can't use it?

Just wondering.. why dont ya just go char copy over to the test realm.. its free.. you get 4 copy's per update.. takes less then 5 min to copy it over.. you can see all the incomming updates .. test out hte new talents.. go play an AB/AV/WSG or two.

the way Honor looks to be calculated is.. average player(baced on Rank) is worth a total of 20 Honor. that honor is split up baced on the DPS thats delt to the target and the DPS healed from the target. so if the dps you deal is equal to the amount someone had to heal you, it seems to be split 10 to each. it varies from person to person though. i belive its baced on rank and the numbers of times you have killed the person.

all the people worried about gettin the Marks shouldnt be.. your gonna have more marks then you know what to do with, its the Honor.. ohh and the Doomkin / Warlocks / Hunters that are way over powered with the new talent tree's.

Edited, Dec 4th 2006 4:43am by Ogmin

Just wondering what Doomkin would be (is it balance druid?) and how they are over powered.

Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks

Laroche