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#1 Sep 21 2010 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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My main, a rogue, has been an alchemist and herbalist since wow started.

By engineering has always appealed to me, i always liked how it sounded and it seemed to fit what i'd want.

Now i do feel like dropping my herbalism for engineering [and making my gatherer hunter alt get off his *** and level mining and herbalism]

But thing is come cata, i wont be able to level them till i finish with leveling my rogue completely and then start leveling my gatherer alt. While it will provide huge utility, i do infact enjoy herbalism and i like having my main not be dependant on my alts for mats. Sure my enchanter provides enchants, my BS provides belt gem slots and what all but thats not being dependant on them in a manner which dependance on mats will be. My various playing alts are already dependant on each other or my main for mats and what not.

What are your thoughts? independance or chained utility?

[yes i know herbalism is not the best "min-max" set up for raiding but come cata, healing finisher+ lifeblood = bit less pain for healers {i doubt in a significant way}]

Edited, Sep 21st 2010 5:20pm by Tenjen
#2 Sep 21 2010 at 11:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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I like it when my characters are self sufficient.

But seriously, Gnomish Poultryizer, Exploding Sheep, X-Ray specs, extra buttons to push in almost every situation... who can say no? Smiley: wink
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#3 Sep 21 2010 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
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thats exactly why iam so conflicted!
#4 Sep 22 2010 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
I wouldn't be without my rocket boosts on my main. Seriously. Anybody can pick. That's what alts are for. You can level gathering professions in a few days as a high level.

Actually, I'm biased since I have 4 characters at 450 engineering. I can't help myself. Portals, repair bots, my chopper, parachutes, portable mailbox, jumper cables, rocket boosts on my boots, oh my. When I decided to level my DK, I started on a Saturday as engineering level 1 and had him at 450 Sunday afternoon.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2010 3:21pm by dadanox
#5 Sep 23 2010 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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The other professions give a little boost here and a little boost there, but engineering lets me do crazy, otherwise impossible things in the battlegrounds, to the point where I’m building game openers for my guild’s ladder team around a squad of engineers.

I maintain a stable of alts with alchemy, enchanting, jewelcrafting and inscription, and it is helpful to be able to mail myself item enhancements instead of buying them off the AH. Also, I make tons of cash on the AH selling dusts and cuts and glyphs. But ultimately that’s all just for convenience. Engineering is about the “whoa!”
#6 Sep 25 2010 at 12:35 PM Rating: Default
Guess the real question is whether anyone knows of any new toys for engineers in Cata.
#8 Nov 11 2010 at 6:07 AM Rating: Good
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Been leveling an alt lately. I dropped skinning on him and picked engineering to go with minning. Can´t say I'm dedicating a lot of time to the trade yet, he's at 235 now and I'm more concentrating on getting to Northrend, but at least he's gathering the matts he'll need when I try to powerlevel him as soon as he hits 70. Any tips on this at all? I picked gnomish engineering and dread the 240-275 stretch as that's when other proffesions get ridiculously expensive to level (specially LW).
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#9 Nov 12 2010 at 5:36 AM Rating: Good
LGarth wrote:
Any tips on this at all? I picked gnomish engineering and dread the 240-275 stretch as that's when other proffesions get ridiculously expensive to level (specially LW).


The only tip I have is to be sure you aren't missing recipes that could be useful leveling at your current skill level. Ackis Recipe List addon is great for this.
#10 Nov 24 2010 at 2:35 AM Rating: Decent
Im also a rogue, and believe me, engineering is really helpfull, stuff i just will not be able to renounce like my parachute to do some base jumping , my xrays and my boots.. and a hell ot of more stuff.
although i think engineering was more usefull to rogue at level 70/TBC, i still prefer it as a profession
#11 Nov 24 2010 at 6:15 AM Rating: Good
Hmm, Nitro Boosts now are a tinker for the Belt, and disappeared from my boots. OK, not sure what the point is, but retinker and slight macro change (/use 6).

Edit: A friend of mine happened to open a ticket on his lost Nitro Boost on the boots, before I told him it was now his belt. The GM gave him the mats to tinker his belt. I wouldn't ticket this since it's a minor issue and I have tons of mats, but it is interesting that the GM helped him out.

Edited, Nov 26th 2010 8:41am by dadanox
#12 Nov 26 2010 at 3:51 AM Rating: Good
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I ended up throwing a few hundred gold into leveling engineering after all. Not a huge amount by any means. I farmed a lot, and that's a cost too, but it somehow doesn't hurt as much. And in any case you do get EXP when you mine a node, and since I was leveling too I thought it was a better decision.

Plus I was helping a friend o mine farm ZG for mounts and stuff (none dropped, but I've had my ZG tiger for 6 months now anyhow) and the Thorium I mined there, about 15ores per run and some dense stones, did help on that 250-300 stretch.

Left engineering at 442, can't really justify those extra 8 points 12 days before the expansion. On an alt.
#13 Nov 28 2010 at 9:23 PM Rating: Default
Having another toon have to feed someone mats is the worst thing you could do - I'd make each profession toon self sufficient at gathering.
#14 Dec 02 2010 at 7:25 AM Rating: Good
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rusttle wrote:
Having another toon have to feed someone mats is the worst thing you could do - I'd make each profession toon self sufficient at gathering.


Genocide is probably the worst thing you can do.

As for gathering on a main, its ok if you are not a serious raider. But for people who care about pushing their characters, 2 crafting professions is the way. Crafting professions give more of an edge than gathering, so are more desirable to those looking to push the envelope.
#15 Dec 02 2010 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
I have an alt with both mining and herbalism, so that I can gather both while making my rounds. Although I just play the AH right now, I could dust off my gatherer for cataclism.
#16 Dec 02 2010 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
magret wrote:
rusttle wrote:
Having another toon have to feed someone mats is the worst thing you could do - I'd make each profession toon self sufficient at gathering.


Genocide is probably the worst thing you can do.

As for gathering on a main, its ok if you are not a serious raider. But for people who care about pushing their characters, 2 crafting professions is the way. Crafting professions give more of an edge than gathering, so are more desirable to those looking to push the envelope.


And unless one of your professions is herbalism. Pretty much every class can benefit from the haste boost I would think. It's the main reason I leveled it on my druid. That and the whole tauren racial + druid flight form makes herbing on her a breeze.
#17 Dec 02 2010 at 5:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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rusttle wrote:
Having another toon have to feed someone mats is the worst thing you could do - I'd make each profession toon self sufficient at gathering.


That might help while you're leveling, but you can generally gather a lot faster on your Tauren druid herbalist or your paly/DK with +20% mount speed. Or, you know, make a pile of cash off another profession (Enchanting and Inscription come to mind) and just buy the mats you need. It takes less than a minute to make a glyph I can sell for upwards of 80g, but potentially over an hour to farm that much ore, depending on what I need. Just flying to where I need to go to mine takes longer than it takes to throw 30 or 40 glyphs on the AH.
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