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#1 Oct 07 2004 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I just want to know what are some of your morals you abide by when you play FFXI.
Examples:
Someone is dead and you are on a chocobo. Do you get off and raise?
Another pt calls for help, your life is low and might get killed in helping. Do you go?

I'm just wondering how you conduct yourselves and would love to know who's a solid player on here ^^ thanks!
#2 Oct 08 2004 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I have given up a number of chocobo's to raise people that either ask me for it or else just random dead people on the side of the road. When someone calls for help I try to lend a hand as long as it doesn't interfere with my party. I was in the **** jungle yesterday and a pair of smithys were ripping the place apart. I was tossing in debuffs and the occasional Thunder to try and help out. My party was in some serious downtime waiting for a 6th on the airship. Figured I wasn't doing anything ATM and I might as well help out. I think I actually saw you there Art ^_^ you added to my bazaar poll about thunderstorms.

Edited, Fri Oct 8 11:00:19 2004 by MagdalenaKatt
#3 Oct 08 2004 at 7:19 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll usually try to help people if I hear a /shout for help when someone's being chased by a mob, like gobs in Valkurm..or Wights in Qufim.

Actually, in Qufim, I was about to zone to Jeuno, and saw a /shout for help, so I just turned around and ran all the way back to the first outpost to help ^^

As a higher level player, I see it as partially my duty to see that the less experienced gamers have a good time of this game.

People helped me in the past, so I make up for it by helping others less experienced than myself. ^^;
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#4 Oct 09 2004 at 2:16 AM Rating: Good
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Get off my chocobo to raise someone? Absolutely not. (I can't...I have no jobs with Raise ^^)

Help someone who has called for help? Frequently. I'm finding it's rather difficult these days though...it's as if the populace has, as a rule, forgotten that if you want me to kill the mob that you have engaged and are losing to, you have to actually use the call for help command. Usually all I see are shouts for help in my log with no coordinates, much less a compass marker to guide me to the trouble spot.

As far as helping a party in an exp area that I'm also leveling in...that's not a yes or no answer. Generally speaking, it's always nice to lend a hand, especially in higher level crowded zones. The tension between groups over who is camped where and getting what mobs eases a lot when you show a little comraderie. This isn't so in lower level zones like Yhutunga, where I've had more than one party turn around and say or do stupid things to my group after we have helped them out of a sticky situation.

Overall, it's important to remember the old saying, "Once bitten, twice shy." People who do not stop to raise a random person, or rush to the aid of someone who calls for help are not necessarily selfish players. It's entirely possible they've just been burned one too many times by dim-witted idiots. While I wouldn't say that should be a reason for calous disregard for fellow players, I know I certainly don't exactly wander Vana'diel looking for hapless adventurers in over their heads.

In fact, the last nasty encounter I had with a player came as I was running through the highlands towards N. Gustaberg. I ran past someone who was fighting a couple of lizards and didn't think much of it, having already passed by a handful of people train farming sheep in Mary's spawn area. I had gotten just beyond bow range when I saw a message that this person was defeated by one of the lizards...he was soloing for exp and got a link. I felt a bit of guilt, but he was engaged on one lizard...if he wanted help, he should have typed /help or even "help pls".

So I felt kinda bad, but it hardly ruined my day. As I'm almost to the zone, the person runs past me heading in the opposite direction...they had obviously set their homepoint in N. Gustaberg and released. They /slap'd me on the way by and proceeded to send me nasty tells because I didn't help them. I explained that I was sorry, and didn't know he needed help, but the nastiness continued. I tried to explain that if he wanted help he should go about asking for it appropriately, yet he continued to accuse me of being a selfish "hi level jackass".

I've happily and naively crisscrossed the Dunes of Valkurm to help a random person get the Magickked Skull for sub-job quest. The person never spoke as I ran around scanning, and when I finally found a ghoul, it dropped skull right away. I was kind of proud of myself, but the person I was helping wasn't even paying attention...I had to do a <call> to get them to pay attention and lot on the skull so I could disband and go on my way. The gratitude they showed me for helping them overcome such an odious obstacle?

"oh, thanks" No smilie, no "^^", not even a ! for my trouble.

Sure I'm willing to help, though I'd have to suggest based on my experience that someone who doesn't drop what they're doing to assist someone else isn't necessarily lacking in "solidity" as a player.
#5 Oct 10 2004 at 7:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for responding, I understand what you mean about getting burned. I'm a 56 RDM and I was plvling a friend in Qufim Island, and someone died.. I sent them a tell not to accept the raise b/c there were wights around and so I raise him... (he wasnt in the group I was plvling) and he accepts before I grab the aggro of all the wights... He dies and cussed me out for raising him. Called me a noob lol! But keep posting on this guys it's good to hear good stuff bein done for other players ^^
#6 Oct 11 2004 at 1:37 AM Rating: Decent
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The "help me" shouts without ctrl+g are a problem indeed. Yesterday for instance, we had a PT in Konshat and got overtaken by someone who had linked two gobs and was running to the Dunes. Despite us frantically telling him to ask for help properly, he just ran on. Our RDM still sent of a spell while waiting for that call for help which never came. Result: a dead party member, and 10 minutes finding him a raise, half of the PT having zoned in the meantime :(

Aside from that, I 'voke off as a WAR when the person has called for help and, since I switched to WHM for a while, heal people around.

Edited, Mon Oct 11 02:39:04 2004 by Alastaironsiren
#7 Oct 13 2004 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
Dang Art.. I remember your younger years. ^^ Anyways As for as morals go I refuse to pwrlvl. I rarely got help when I lvled and for that I have much more respect for FFXI. Having that been said I have alot of respect for those with patience to help others out in Long missions. I've done the rank 5 mission over 20+ times for LS members and just to help out people who have sent shouts in Jueno. I got rank 5 at lvl 25 and I tried to help as much as I could then. (Thanx Merlin for not losing Patience) Since that day I made the effort to help everyone else out in Rank 4 and 5 missions. Hopefully one day My static will lvl often enough to help out with rank 6.
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#8 Oct 13 2004 at 11:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I hear that on the powerlevel note. I am constantly getting requests for powerlevelling. It's a little less now. I think the lower level players are thinking that 43 is too high to ask for that. However I still get it (Haste maybe ^_^). I only occasionally powerlevel close friends of mine. The people in the linkshell I'm in once in a while (much to their chagrin). The question I invariably ask them is then who's going to powerlevel me? I have like 12-15 people in my LS and needless to say it's a pretty tight group despite the fact that we are all radically different levels. At the moment I am the highest level player and being the only Main white (I think there are a few subs at like 18 or so) I tend to 'port my fellow members and of course any party I'm in. But I try to always have in my search comment (when I'm not in a party) that I don't do powerlevel.
#9 Oct 15 2004 at 12:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Heya Art, and everyone else^^

I was very excited to get Raise with my RDM, and when I did I spent two days clearing trains and raising people in places like the dunes. I've been known to go out of my way, jump chocobos, or leave the person I'm "pl'ing" in a safe spot so I can go help out with a raise or something. If it's a dangerous spot or I'm really busy I may apologize unless they ask real nice or are that desperate, and I generally turn down tips. Someone synth'd an orange juice for me for raising their party member once. I thought that was nice. I still have it. :)

I try to be as nice and helpful to people as possible, just because I can. So it's a game... but there are still real people on the other side. And by helping others, it might encourage them to be helpful to others when it is possible for them. I certainly know all the random acts of kindness directed towards me in the past helped shape my attitude now. And who knows, maybe when I'm leveling a newbie job one day and I die or need help, those who I have helped before will come to my aid, remembering that I've been nice to them.

I just want people to have the best time they can. Knowing that I might have contributed a small part to that would certainly make my day.
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#10 Oct 15 2004 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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One thing that gets me fuming is price gouging on community service spells (Raise II/Raise III). Some may see it as only business but to the White mages giving out those free higher level Raises, it's plain rude.
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#11 Oct 15 2004 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Heres something i posted on my LS's website a few weeks ago and i'd like to put here also.....


Thought id share this story with you guys.....

So by now you all know that AF's are hard...very hard. You cant solo them and most of the time you need an alliance of people or very high level people to help you get one. That said, i was headed to Gustav Tunnel last night....been waiting for PT in jeuno all night with no invites and decided i would go there and solo some gobs while i waited for the hope that some PT would pick me up since i was already there. As i was waiting i decided to walk down to the area where the PTs were xp'ing. Now the gobs in this area use a bomb that suicides the gobbie and does like 700 plus damage to anyone within range. Very nasty. I ran past the PT and stood besides two players that werent grouped and appeared to be afk. As time passed, a gob suicided and hit us all for 700 damage. The two other players beside me didnt move but i noticed that one's health was more than halfway down. So....thinking he was afk and fearing that another bomb like that would kill him.... I cured him back to full health. Suddenly, he turned to me and bowed. Seems he wasnt AFK as i thought. He then tells me " thank you " and bows. I bow back and say " Anytime. " He then asked me if i wanted a warp out and i told him my reason for just standing around there, hoping a PT invite would come. He asked why i didnt start my own PT and i told him the funny story that the one i tried to start took so long that two people fell asleep on me . Next he asked me if I had gotten my final AF yet. I told him no, i heard it was very difficult to get in Castle Zvahl. He then asked if i would like to get that part done? Sure I said. Turns out he had level 75 toons and dual boxed. Also turns out that he was Thaiwanese and spoke both english and japanese fluently. Also turned out that he knew the castle like the back of his hand and knew exactly what Paladins needed in there. Did I mention one of his lvl 75 jobs was a THF, and the other was a BLM? Next thing i know we are warping home, grabbing tele-vahzl ( which he finally agreed to let me pay for ) and headed to the castle. The key dropped in 3 kills thanks to his Thf. And thanks to his Blm/Whm i was safely sneaked/invised the whole time i needed to be. The coffer however, would not show up. Did he quit on me then? Nope, he took me farming with him and insisted I lot on loot ( which i won 36000 worth of stuff on ). In the end we found the coffer, he ported me home, and told me the reason why he helped me so much. He said it was because i had healed him, and that many NA players ignored others in need. The fact that I had healed him when he needed it ( whether he actually did or not ) made him want to reward me for the good deed. Hows that for a nice story? So remember to do good deeds, you never know when one may come your way!

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#12 Oct 15 2004 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
Wow!!! That's Awesome!! I'm not going to go off about the whole NA subject. J/P and NA are exactly the same. Some have more exp then others. The only problem is the langauge barrier. Even Squeenix's auto-translate doesnt resolve this. Yet the common courtesies from all eventually break past the gaps.
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#13 Oct 17 2004 at 7:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow! thats a nice post... thats coo as heck.. when i was a bigger noob than i still am ... and was a lvl 20 war w/ no sub >< lol i had a japanese guy blind invite me to pt in valk dunes... he typed only "Follow" so we start running... and back then i didn have a map of konsch highlands next thing i know we are @ Gusgen Mines lol and he said "Stay" so i do next thing i know he starts killing ghouls.. finally ..one dropped a skull i was in awe and thanked him repetitively so now when i see someone in valk w/o a sub @ 19 + i feel for them and offer to help if im available
#14 Oct 18 2004 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I like surprising people with help.

Generally don't tell 'em I'm helping unless they ask for it. I'll just kinda... appear. Or show up at the zone. Unless they can give me some kinda good reason for me to get lost, of course...

I really adore people who help each other out. Makes the game a friendlier place. I guess it's weird because I rarely ask for help... No matter how dangerous the situation I'll probably end up trying to sneak off on my own instead of asking someone to babysit me.

...but it never works... lol. Because when I do that I'm pretty quiet, and then people realize I'm being sneaky. And sometimes... sometimes someone will just end up popping out of nowhere to help me.

You get what you give, I suppose.

There's a reason that the game is a general comminity. People have to work together, and if I wasn't willing to work with others... well, what the crap would I be doing on an MMO, anyway?

Maybe I'm just gullible. ^^
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#15 Oct 18 2004 at 5:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Well as for me if i'm bored i usually like to go to Qufim and Kazam and watch the zone and kill any trains or pop's near a party i.e. Gobs, Giants or Wights...Also i like to do random Cure's and Raise's if needed.
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