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#1 Jan 25 2009 at 4:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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guy did a pickup nyzul isle group. trotter boots appraised from ??? boots. He systematically kicked everyone else from the pt so the boots would drop to him. He then proceeded to log to a mule and hide.

That is all. Take care.

Edited, Jan 29th 2009 7:16am by Kaolian
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#2 Jan 25 2009 at 5:42 PM Rating: Good
In his defense he said askar was the only thing freelot. But if you are like the rest of us when u say askar lot only, we tend to think everything else is free lot.

He did you guys wrong and I hope he forever has to deal with it.
#3 Jan 25 2009 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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He deserves no defense. His shout simply showed "Askar[O] Denali & Goliard [X]" that's it. Appraisals never have and never should be assumed to be the sole right of the person doing the lotting. That is just... dumb.
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#4 Jan 25 2009 at 7:17 PM Rating: Good
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correct me if im wrong but i think mds is getting perma banned or something along those lines.
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#5 Jan 26 2009 at 3:29 AM Rating: Decent
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As far as I know, he is not. The GM Policy does not covering thieving jerks. Anyway, he's supposedly "quitting" but I doubt that if he is selling all his gear for so much. Odds are he's server jumping or buying a new character.
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#6 Jan 26 2009 at 8:21 AM Rating: Default
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I can see both sides of it to be honest.

His rules were a bit much and I personally wouldn't do a pick-up party under those conditions. Having said that, It is much like how most shells run dynamis, if you don't sponsor the run you get to pick 1 maybe 2 peices of gear that you want. If it drops you get to lot, but thats it...you don't get to lot anything else cause you are investing nothing but your free time.

In this situation, the sponsor is investing not only his free time, but the cost involved in coins and the time/tags of farming those coins. You can not expect to get an even share of the loot if you are mooching off of his coins in a pick up nyzule pt.

Thats what everyone who doesn't sponsor a dynamis/nyzule run is...a mooch. We take advantage of other peoples hard work for gear. As with dynamis sponsor's get more than just gear, they get coins and in some other shells all sellable drops/exp scrolls.

This guy had rules. If you told him the only thing you were going to lot was askar, then as long as he didn't ninja lot askar then he held good on his agreement with you. Each shell that does dynamis or person the sponsors nyzule has thier own rules. If you don't like his rules don't go with him is about all I can say.

Edit: I saw the whole /sh flame war thing in Whitegate. I kinda tend to beleive what Mds said in regards to his version of the story. Why make up a story that makes you look like an A-hole. Yes, thats what he looks like by sticking to his story. He could have just said he accidentally disbanded the party and he had trotters for a long time. Pretended to be a idiot who just hit the disband button. But he told and stuck to a story that makes him look like a A-hole.

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Anyway, he's supposedly "quitting" but I doubt that if he is selling all his gear for so much. Odds are he's server jumping or buying a new character.


Logically speaking why would he sell his gear if he was jumping servers? He would still want all of his gear if this were the case. And if he was starting/buying a new character what good would trotters do him as they are R/EX and as they say, "Ya can't take it with you".

Again I beleive Mds when he says he is quiting for the mere fact that drama is a *****. The guy had set rules and stuck by them. It seems to me that others assume that all nyzule runs are the same regardless of who leads it. And as the old saying goes, When you ASSUME you make an *** out of U and ME.

Edited, Jan 26th 2009 8:52am by spcwill
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#7 Jan 26 2009 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I can see both sides of it to be honest.

His rules were a bit much and I personally wouldn't do a pick-up party under those conditions. Having said that, It is much like how most shells run dynamis, if you don't sponsor the run you get to pick 1 maybe 2 peices of gear that you want. If it drops you get to lot, but thats it...you don't get to lot anything else cause you are investing nothing but your free time.

In this situation, the sponsor is investing not only his free time, but the cost involved in coins and the time/tags of farming those coins. You can not expect to get an even share of the loot if you are mooching off of his coins in a pick up nyzule pt.

Thats what everyone who doesn't sponsor a dynamis/nyzule run is...a mooch. We take advantage of other peoples hard work for gear. As with dynamis sponsor's get more than just gear, they get coins and in some other shells all sellable drops/exp scrolls.

This guy had rules. If you told him the only thing you were going to lot was askar, then as long as he didn't ninja lot askar then he held good on his agreement with you. Each shell that does dynamis or person the sponsors nyzule has thier own rules. If you don't like his rules don't go with him is about all I can say.

Edit: I saw the whole /sh flame war thing in Whitegate. I kinda tend to beleive what Mds said in regards to his version of the story. Why make up a story that makes you look like an A-hole. Yes, thats what he looks like by sticking to his story. He could have just said he accidentally disbanded the party and he had trotters for a long time. Pretended to be a idiot who just hit the disband button. But he told and stuck to a story that makes him look like a A-hole.
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I call BS. When does a nyzul isle shout only pertain to the hnm gear? You know **** well ???items have never been off limits. They have always been lotable after being appraised. His rules was way to "loose" and made himself look bad.
#8 Jan 27 2009 at 6:59 AM Rating: Decent
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When does a nyzul isle shout only pertain to the hnm gear? You know **** well ???items have never been off limits. They have always been lotable after being appraised.


Perfect example of someone assuming that every person who host's a nyzule run makes the same rules. This paticular person obviously had those rules. I don't fault him for having those rules as it was his coins that gave everyone else a chance to get the Askar gear they wanted and he has the right to set whatever rules he wants. At the same time I wouldn't do a pick up run with him cause his rules are too strict for my taste.
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#9 Jan 27 2009 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
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When you see "Askar O Denali/Goliard X" on a shout... what do you assume? Stop trying to defend someone who is obviously guilty, they DO NOT have a side. If he intended appraisals to be off limits he would have stated such in his shouts and he would have found no need to boot everyone and log before we even had a chance to lot or talk at all. If you can, even for a second, think what he did was justified... then there is something wrong there. He did in fact try to hide, but his alternate account was given away forcing him to swap back to Mds to "defend" himself.

Additionally, it makes perfect sense to sell your gear here (especially for relatively similar prices to the AH price). Logically, if you know people will look for you if you server hop, you will give them reason to halt the pursuit. IF you "quit" there is no reason to go looking for you. Furthermore, gearing up a single job helps lower suspicion when you hop servers and makes it easier to get into LSes that are looking for a specific job.
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#10 Jan 27 2009 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
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When you see "Askar O Denali/Goliard X" on a shout... what do you assume?


I try to make a habit of not assuming, as many a negative incident like this one arise from it. I would advise you to do the same. You could avoid similar situations in the future. A simple question asked could have avoided this whole thing. There are no stupid question, only ****** off people when something happens to which they did not ask a question.

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Stop trying to defend someone who is obviously guilty, they DO NOT have a side.


Anyone who does not have a "side" as you call it is a non-entity, a void that has no perspective or opinion. He obviously has a side and feels it is a valid one if he defends it.

I happen to think that those who sponsor runs(be it dynamis or nyzul) for others too mooch gear from deserve more loot then those who don't sponsor. If he feels the same and thinks he deserves all ??? items than thats his call as he is the sponsor. If you don't like it don't go with him. Plenty of other people who /sh for nyzul runs. You can mooch off them if you like thier rules better.

Edit: Or you can host your own runs and let others mooch off of you.

Edited, Jan 27th 2009 1:51pm by spcwill
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#11 Jan 27 2009 at 3:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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When does a nyzul isle shout only pertain to the hnm gear? You know **** well ???items have never been off limits. They have always been lotable after being appraised.


Perfect example of someone assuming that every person who host's a nyzule run makes the same rules. This paticular person obviously had those rules. I don't fault him for having those rules as it was his coins that gave everyone else a chance to get the Askar gear they wanted and he has the right to set whatever rules he wants.



Go do 100 pick up runs and come back and tell me how many runs turn out like MDS run. Dynamis runs is different. Ppl that tend to sponser Dynamis is after the money and it clearly stats in almost every dynamis rules that sponser gets the money and others basically get to mooch off them for gear to help the sponser obtain whatever they are after.

You are right about asking questions. It doesnt hurt, but when you are customed to one way and not the other ppl tend to think the way they know.

Personaly I dont care what MDS did. I wasnt involved in it but all I ask from ppl like him is to be more clear on the rules.


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At the same time I wouldn't do a pick up run with him cause his rules are too strict for my taste.



So you are saying you would have asked if the ??? items are off limits? I bet you wouldnt have. Not unless you know him and knew his rules.

But I bet if you did a run with him and he did the exact same **** to you, you would be *******


Edited, Jan 27th 2009 6:42pm by Shusio
#12 Jan 27 2009 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
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So you are saying you would have asked if the ??? items are off limits? I bet you wouldnt have. Not unless you know him and knew his rules.


I always ask, but in a round about non-hostle way. I always ask the leader of a pick up nyzule pt if they are going to collect all ??? items or if they would like me too.

That way regardless of thier response I know what they are planning to with the items, wether it be let the pt share or keep for themselves.

And yes I have done a few runs where the leader wants all ???items for themselves. Though it is uncommon, its non unheard of to me.
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#13 Jan 27 2009 at 10:42 PM Rating: Good
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So you are saying you would have asked if the ??? items are off limits? I bet you wouldnt have. Not unless you know him and knew his rules.

But I bet if you did a run with him and he did the exact same sh*t to you, you would be *******


This is probably gonna add a little gas to the fire but Spcwill does in fact know Mds. They are brothers. Spcwill, known as Illwill in game, is the middle of 3 brothers with Mds being the youngest out of all 3.

You may ask how I know this? I'm the oldest brother. I used to be on this server but I transfered about 5 months ago.

The actions by Mds and Spcwill's defense of Mds doesn't surprise me in the least bit. I don't talk to either of them in game or RL anymore, and I'm sure these actions won't shock many or come as a surprise as to why.

Now time to sit back and wait for the flames and slander from Illwill or Mds.

Edited, Jan 28th 2009 1:45am by cyanjoeblake
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#14 Jan 28 2009 at 12:42 AM Rating: Good
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lol well since youre pointing out who they are why not tell us who YOU are (or were) cause i talked to illwill recently and he did mention another brother and said who he was (though im not gonna say who as i wanna see if your name matches what he told me) and said all 3 of you are still on the same server)
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lol well since youre pointing out who they are why not tell us who YOU are (or were) cause i talked to illwill recently and he did mention another brother and said who he was (though im not gonna say who as i wanna see if your name matches what he told me) and said all 3 of you are still on the same server)


When I was on this server my name was Kalten.
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#16 Jan 28 2009 at 7:26 AM Rating: Default
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Lol, get over yourself Joe. No one cares enough about you to slander you. You act like you are exposing dirty family secrets. I personally don't care if anyone knows that reason that no one talks to you is because you are a convicted child molester, jackass and all around low life thieving scumbag. Oops, did I just let out your dirty secret? Oh, well if I gotta do the time, I may as well do the crime. Anyway back to the topic of the thread.

Yes we are brothers, a fact that 3/4ths the server already knows. If you saw the /sh flame war between this group and Mds you certianly do.

With most everyone already knowing that fact I still said:

spcwill wrote:
His rules were a bit much and I personally wouldn't do a pick-up party under those conditions.


spcwill wrote:
I saw the whole /sh flame war thing in Whitegate. I kinda tend to beleive what Mds said in regards to his version of the story. Why make up a story that makes you look like an A-hole. Yes, thats what he looks like by sticking to his story.


spcwill wrote:
But he told and stuck to a story that makes him look like a A-hole.


spcwill wrote:
At the same time I wouldn't do a pick up run with him cause his rules are too strict for my taste.


So as I said in nearly all my posts above, yes he is an A-hole for doing it, but the dude has the right to make whatever rules he wants too. Just as everyone else has the right to not go with him.

Edited, Jan 28th 2009 8:05am by spcwill
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#17 Jan 28 2009 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh wow this thread is epic, like watching a movie...i wonder who dies at the end?

anyway kalten did you switch server with beuwolf, i heard the old man still play on another server...his linkshell sorta went to **** when he left but i heard under the branches he was just fed up with hfa and jumped servers, so if you know anything let me know.
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#18 Jan 28 2009 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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#19 Jan 28 2009 at 12:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Well first off, I knew this thread was going around on all the major ffxi websites and I could care less. I want to say for the record this is Mds. I wasn't going to make a big deal about this cause Xellith is a big drama queen. I wasn't even going to tell my side of the story cause only like 6 ppl think I'm a ninja lotter. The only reason why I'm talking now, cause I saw Cyanjoeblake comment and I laughed so hard. OK, here we go.

I was shouting in whitegate for a nyzul isle floor 100 run. I got 6 ppl and I said in PT chat (yeah you f*cking noob xellith don't deny it) that "Only Askar head was free lot, that everything else was mine". Everyone didn't object so I entered nyzul isle and we did the run. I was the only one who was picking up all the ??? Items from all the NM's etc.... and one of the people picked up a ??? Earring from a NM, and I send him a tell saying WTF!.

After the floor 100 run the person who picked up the ??? Earring told me personally that she would have em appraised. She did and I was appraising the Boots, and 2 ppl tried lotting on them. I said WTF pass on that sh*t. They didn't so I booted em. It had NOTHING to do w/ just disbanding the PT. Those two ppl who wouldn't pass on my items then started spamming stuff in /sh saying I ninja lotted em. I never hopped onto a different character. I only have Mds and Supertank, and Supertank doesn't have access to White Gate. Ibleedforkitty is Kittypwnsyou's second character.

I think you all are a bunch of babies who have sand in your ******. Quit your crying, read the rules of the sponser next time, and if you don't like those rules THE DON'T GO W/ HIM.

No I'm not getting banned, only a few ppl from Xell's ls who talked about me in /sh was talking crap. I am quiting cause ppl like him are giant babies, and think the rules should be bent to his will.

And Kalten (Joe), I thought you changed servers cause Nordishen in /sh accused you of being a child molester. You were afraid of it ruining your rep or w/e, cuase a lot of children (like xell) play ffxi, and they didn't want to fall prey to your evil ways! You sooo surely accused Illwill and I of telling him, but you're retarded *** DIDN"T know he just said it randomly. Had you NOT made a big deal about it, then no one would actually know this you ******. I would rather keep family secrets in the closet. Joe, why would you even care enough to comment on my posting, since you changed servers and changed character names. This shows your immaturity, congrats!!!

Well anyways, theres the story. You may think I'm an A-Hole for making those rules, but I follow through on those rules. If you don't like my rules, DON'T GO WITH ME! This is the first time ppl have ******* cause something actually appraised out of it. I had a pair of bounding boots apraise, but i told everything to come back into the pt and i'd let them lot for free, cause I already owned the bounding boots.

Get over yourselves and get a life. I'm quiting cause it isn't worth 15 dollars a month to have noobs ruin the game.

LOL. Take care ^ ^

Edited, Jan 28th 2009 4:06pm by Mdsmdsmds
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#20 Jan 28 2009 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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Ill have to call you out on the Ibleedforkitty thing, because Ive had Ibleedforkitty comment to me in tells or answer questions for me in tells that I personally asked you (mds) in tell just 5 secs earlier. which would meen that either a) kittypwnsyou sitting over your shoulder looking at your conversations as you play or b) you have access to kittypwnsyou/Ibleedforkitty's account thus making you Ibleedforkitty as well even though its not actually YOUR account.
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yes he has access to the ibleedforkitty account, considering he was drama'ing me up for booting him from LS from that account. talking in first person, telling me to die in car crash and what not.

Honestly who cares about the rules the exhibited greed alone was what made us boot you. No room for that in any sort of social interaction. Boy is a boy, maybe he'll grow up, but prolly not.
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#22 Jan 28 2009 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
That makes it clearer why you are defending him. Like I said before I dont care and I shouldnt have to come into a shout pt and ask questions like can we lot ???items. The leader SHOULD be more clearer then just askar is free lot and everything else is mine.


Did that include drops from reg mobs too?
#23 Jan 28 2009 at 5:12 PM Rating: Default
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That makes it clearer why you are defending him. Like I said before I dont care and I shouldnt have to come into a shout pt and ask questions like can we lot ???items. The leader SHOULD be more clearer then just askar is free lot and everything else is mine.


Did that include drops from reg mobs too?


What I said was clear enough!

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I was shouting in whitegate for a nyzul isle floor 100 run. I got 6 ppl and I said in PT chat (yeah you f*cking noob xellith don't deny it) that "Only Askar head was free lot, that everything else was mine". Everyone didn't object so I entered nyzul isle and we did the run.


Ohh yes Awwsnap, Earlier this year you were involved in a car accident where you slid on ice and totalled your car. Listen to god, he as well as I do, want you dead! Die in the fire [Please check this!].


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#24 Jan 28 2009 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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ohhh and since you look at this awwsnap (or asssssrape as others told me before I quit LOL) I previously told you to look up the lyrics to a Song, which I doubt you did. So i'll save you the trouble and I will cut and paste them. Maybe this time you'll listen to god or myself.

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Is that what you call a getaway?!!
Tell me what you got away with!!
Cause I've seen more spine on jellyfish!!
I've seen more guts on eleven-year-old kids!!
Have another drink and drive yourself home!!
I hope there's ice on all the roads!!
And you can think of me when you forget your seatbelt
then when your head goes through the windshield!!


I made a wish the other night when I saw a falling star, that you die in a massive car accident. Do you think i'll come true this year, or next year? (In game of course)



Edited, Jan 28th 2009 8:23pm by Mdsmdsmds
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#25 Jan 28 2009 at 5:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hello Everyone & (/slap Duomaxwell)

Posting since I'm still popular lol (/woot).

Anyways, I left the game for two reason, first, being a shellholder is pretty tough but I thought that my time has come and I'm ready to move on to rl. (Someone gave me crack so I do play once in a while though). Second, the important thing was 2 of my family friends passed away while I was completely addicted to the game.There's not a day where I would give anything to turn back time. I would be lying if I said I didn't blame the linkshell, but in the end, I could only blame myself.But I still do love the HopefromAsh, otherwise if I didn't why would I pay for the website. :0
Pimpiness!!

fyi: it's not like those other websites like free forum, mine is custom built and very proud of it. Though I need time to update it lol, but still is way better than some of the linkshell website.). Debating if I should build another one though, like a web for all linkshells such as accomplishment page. ^^
I have entrusted the ls to Popowich which I do believe he did a great job and major improvements, looking at the front page. Should check it out ^^.
Yes I heard about Rocklobster, so good luck and hopefully you guys do well.

Now getting back to the topic: Generally in my experience, ??? are shared by all.

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"Only Askar head was free lot, that everything else was mine"

Be a bit more clear!

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I can see both sides of it to be honest.

Um... so where is the other side besides MDS.

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Did that include drops from reg mobs too?

Likely, even crystals too lol.

Reading Shusio's and others, basically MDS is an outright liar.

Now based on my experience aside from the his habit of sending /tells, in general he's a good helpful fella.

To: Illwill and MDS
Guys, grats on the baby.I think it's more than enough that you've wasted THIS much time on this game. Move on, and good luck on rl.
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#26 Jan 28 2009 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Guys, grats on the baby.I think it's more than enough that you've wasted THIS much time on this game. Move on, and good luck on rl.


Much love George! I'm sorry that happened, and I hope everything is going well. I was wondering since Joe posted how long it would be until you posted. LOL.

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Reading Shusio's and others, basically MDS is an outright liar.


as the intelligent "Smokey" once said (From the movie Friday). "I DON'T GIVE A FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK" what sushio or any other person (NOT in the party when I talked about all the rules said) They are ones I like to call "Bored P.O.S" who doesn't have a clue when it came to my nyzul run. The ONLY 2 ppl who are credibable enough to talk about this topic is Xell and myself, everyone else can shoot themselves. Because they are voicing their opinions on hearsay. So please shoot yourself in the face ^ ^(excluding Matt, Joe, George because no matter what you all think, I do still love you all.......seriously...............Even if that means I will never see you again forever Joe. If that makes your life better, then so be it. But I honestly do still love you Matt, Joe, George). Xell knows what I said, and he's a POS for spreading false rumors, but that is why im quiting the game ^^.

I hope everything is going well for you! I hope you're putting Joe in his place! /spank /spank /spank.

Edited, Jan 28th 2009 9:03pm by Mdsmdsmds
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#27 Jan 28 2009 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
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The leader SHOULD be more clearer then just askar is free lot and everything else is mine.


I agree here. While the whole situation could have been avoided with a question by the members, it could have just as easily been avoided by a clearer and more precise statement.

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Reading Shusio's and others, basically MDS is an outright liar.


The reason I beleive Mds wasn't lieing is from past experience. If he were lieing he would have made up a better story that paints himself in a much less A-hole-ish manner. The fact that he says "I am an A-Hole, those are my rules if you don't like it don't go with me". He could have just said he accidentally disbanded the party and he had trotters for a long time. Pretended to be a idiot who just hit the disband button prematurely. It happens in the game enough to where some might be suspicious, but it would have avoided this whole thing.

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Um... so where is the other side besides MDS.


Mds's side: I told everyone everything but askar was mine so it's not ninja lotting/stealing.

Other side: You never said anything about anything, you stole it and you(Mds) are a douche.

As you well know Beu, if there is a line to call Mds a douche I am generally at the front. The part I disagree with is the whole Mds stole it part. I think he beleives he told the pt all the info they needed. Even though in my opinion, if it isn't completely spelled out and idiot proof the others have a loophole in your rules to exploit, then you messed up. The whole player warning thing is uneeded IMO because I don't think Mds meant to cause harm as he thought he explained it decently.

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Guys, grats on the baby.


That just looks wierd, like Mike and I had a kid together or something. But thanks Beu, I think I know what you meant, lol.

Edited, Jan 28th 2009 7:19pm by spcwill
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#28 Jan 28 2009 at 7:30 PM Rating: Default
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The Next person to Comment is a ******..... ::Points Down::
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#29 Jan 28 2009 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello!

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Doh!
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#30 Jan 28 2009 at 11:59 PM Rating: Good
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Wow. This thread sure did take off in the trash talking department.

After posting, I expected some flack from both Mds and Illwill, especially considering how I've refused to talk to them considering how my wife and I have been treated by them, (Illwill said that he wished my wife would get cancer and die. I wasn't a very happy camper that day.). Judging by what Mds has said about Awwwwsnap, wishing that people would literally die seems to be a trend with those two.

But I really didn't expect them to start up with trying to call me a child molester again. Roughly 1.5 years ago they both tried the same thing then hacking into our LS website and changing the signature on my profile going with this same story then. That's a pretty f*cked up thing to make up and falsely accuse someone of, considering that there are actual kids out there who have been abused in their childhoods. I guess this just shows the maturity that both of these guys are working with. But then again look at how this thread was originally started plus them wishing that people would die....enough said.

I guess Mds is still ****** that the previous character he purchased, Dinja, was perma banned a while back. I know he didn't make too many friends on that character as well.
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#31 Jan 29 2009 at 7:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ok, Death threats = thread done.
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