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I recently saw one selling for 250 mil gil.... i asked myself is it really worth that much? Why is one item sought after that much that isn;t even sellable conventionally because u can;t trade that much or bazaar that much at one time... Ridiculous!
I'll pay about 5mil for it. It's a toy...
Exactly! and I can't believe that me and few friends were gonna attempt to buy it just to keep it within our ls. I kind of wish SE would make one sellable by an NPC (rare/ex) for 99,999,999 that might actually help deflation and give everyone their toys.
There are only 2 cool applications of Kraken that I know of.
1) Drk on HNM's for 30s every 6min, souleater and go at it.
2) Rdm/nin going Martial Knife / Kraken in ballista and spamming cyclone and en- spell damage.
1) Drk on HNM's for 30s every 6min, souleater and go at it.
2) Rdm/nin going Martial Knife / Kraken in ballista and spamming cyclone and en- spell damage.
I don't think it's worth 250 mil, but to call it a "toy" is a joke.
Kracken Club is perhaps one of the only things that I'd really want on the game. WAR/NIN, DRK/NIN, NIN/WAR will kick your *** with it.
I think its one of the best items on the game. Something that lets you spam WS 3 times more than usual is better than uber gear that will let your WS DMG do +100 more DMG than normal. Yeah, mobs will do WS more than normal, but they will die faster also. And I don't know anyone turning down Kracken /NINs lol.
250 mil, no. but 5 mil? Come on.
Kracken Club is perhaps one of the only things that I'd really want on the game. WAR/NIN, DRK/NIN, NIN/WAR will kick your *** with it.
I think its one of the best items on the game. Something that lets you spam WS 3 times more than usual is better than uber gear that will let your WS DMG do +100 more DMG than normal. Yeah, mobs will do WS more than normal, but they will die faster also. And I don't know anyone turning down Kracken /NINs lol.
250 mil, no. but 5 mil? Come on.
For drk and war Ridill > Kraken by far.
Yeah way to pricy!
- The TP gain is cool but I saw video of MNK + Kraken club + Hundred Fist and it took for ever for him to kill EP crawler ewww. The DMG just sucks, if anything off hand use.
- I like weapons that gives stat modifiers to my weapons skills, kinda like how osode is so godly.
- The TP gain is cool but I saw video of MNK + Kraken club + Hundred Fist and it took for ever for him to kill EP crawler ewww. The DMG just sucks, if anything off hand use.
- I like weapons that gives stat modifiers to my weapons skills, kinda like how osode is so godly.
Kracken is only good in off hand. Using it in main hand isn't good since it's weak as hell. Only good for fast TP.
Osode is good, but some jobs have body pieces that are as good or a little better in some ways, vs. Osode. But its a badass body piece, nonetheless.
I just don't think Kracken sucks. If it did, no one would want it and the price wouldn't be so high for it. But whoever is selling it for 250mil must be on crack. Nothing is worth that much. After all, its just a game.
Osode is good, but some jobs have body pieces that are as good or a little better in some ways, vs. Osode. But its a badass body piece, nonetheless.
I just don't think Kracken sucks. If it did, no one would want it and the price wouldn't be so high for it. But whoever is selling it for 250mil must be on crack. Nothing is worth that much. After all, its just a game.
Lol, most people I talk to, and most people who post on forums I read, say that anyone they exp with someone using a kraken either A) The party sucks because of tp moves or B) They make them take it off.
Mobs gain tp faster than you do, it's insane to use kraken for the purpose of tp gain because every ws you do, the mob does. On deco weapons, this is dangerous as Whirl of the Rage should hopefully be limited to only 1-2x a time if possible so you can recast Ni and not have to use Ichi or get stunned. Demons have new tp moves that aren't nice, Eyes have level 5 petrify/Eyes on Me for unblinkable annoyance, birds have triple attack and stormwind so more mob tp isn't very good.
And I was just ballistaing against a pld with kraken offhand, I kited him np because he still couldn't hit me with A- club skill lol, he wasn't even worth fighting, was going for other targets.
Mob tp gain rate is insane and using kraken shows it to the extreme, I have exp'd with someone using it and it messed the party up a lot more than increased that one persons damage.
Mobs gain tp faster than you do, it's insane to use kraken for the purpose of tp gain because every ws you do, the mob does. On deco weapons, this is dangerous as Whirl of the Rage should hopefully be limited to only 1-2x a time if possible so you can recast Ni and not have to use Ichi or get stunned. Demons have new tp moves that aren't nice, Eyes have level 5 petrify/Eyes on Me for unblinkable annoyance, birds have triple attack and stormwind so more mob tp isn't very good.
And I was just ballistaing against a pld with kraken offhand, I kited him np because he still couldn't hit me with A- club skill lol, he wasn't even worth fighting, was going for other targets.
Mob tp gain rate is insane and using kraken shows it to the extreme, I have exp'd with someone using it and it messed the party up a lot more than increased that one persons damage.
I XPed with a NIN using it, he WS 2-3 times per fight, it was crazy.
Having a pimped out MNK in a PT can "mess up" things since they'd get hate and have to be cured...but that will not stop ppl from wanting them, or wanting to be them. If everyone was so worried about "PT safety", DRG and THF would be the top 2 jobs.
Yeah, vs. Decos WoR is gonna be annoying, but I guess ppl shouldn't Haste THFs or MNKs since all they are doing is "feeding the mobs TP..."
I fought a RNG with Kracken in Ballista once and I wasn't scared. He was main handing it cuz he was /SAM. Misses and 8 dmg hits is mainly what he did. I remember Ballista'ing with Leodarkhand, DRK/NIN with Kracken, awhile ago. He'd just run through ppl, it wasn't funny.
You fighting a PLD with A- Club isn't a good example. You are a THF. It's quite hard to hit a THF with an A+ weapon skill in Ballista. As THF, I once killed a BLM and DRK that tried to jump me, THF is killer in Ballista. I see your point though, but I still think it's a cool weapon. It should be expensive, everyone doesn't need to have this thing lol.
Edited, Thu Jan 26 05:47:00 2006 by BarchielReturns
Having a pimped out MNK in a PT can "mess up" things since they'd get hate and have to be cured...but that will not stop ppl from wanting them, or wanting to be them. If everyone was so worried about "PT safety", DRG and THF would be the top 2 jobs.
Yeah, vs. Decos WoR is gonna be annoying, but I guess ppl shouldn't Haste THFs or MNKs since all they are doing is "feeding the mobs TP..."
I fought a RNG with Kracken in Ballista once and I wasn't scared. He was main handing it cuz he was /SAM. Misses and 8 dmg hits is mainly what he did. I remember Ballista'ing with Leodarkhand, DRK/NIN with Kracken, awhile ago. He'd just run through ppl, it wasn't funny.
You fighting a PLD with A- Club isn't a good example. You are a THF. It's quite hard to hit a THF with an A+ weapon skill in Ballista. As THF, I once killed a BLM and DRK that tried to jump me, THF is killer in Ballista. I see your point though, but I still think it's a cool weapon. It should be expensive, everyone doesn't need to have this thing lol.
Edited, Thu Jan 26 05:47:00 2006 by BarchielReturns
***** KRAKEN!!
i want that rare/ex pole from jorg that attacks 2-3 times.
i just think it would be funny to see my taru flailing about with a big *** stick lol
i want that rare/ex pole from jorg that attacks 2-3 times.
i just think it would be funny to see my taru flailing about with a big *** stick lol
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hehe the jorm pole only has 4 dmg T.T hits for like 0-0-0.
kraken's a toy except for souleater abuse. Only really good time to use is on mobs that dont have tp moves to be scared of like crawlers etc but even then riddil will outparse a kraken offhand 2 to 1. The best place to use it is too weak - decent challenge mobs, great farming tool. It's just fun tho dunno about 250mil fun ^^;.
kraken's a toy except for souleater abuse. Only really good time to use is on mobs that dont have tp moves to be scared of like crawlers etc but even then riddil will outparse a kraken offhand 2 to 1. The best place to use it is too weak - decent challenge mobs, great farming tool. It's just fun tho dunno about 250mil fun ^^;.
250mil is too much for anything in this game.
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It's so expensive because it can be equipped by all jobs, has a long camp window, and a horrid drop rate (my friend is 0/32). The demand for endgame items are just so high now with all the 75s around that prices will continue to rise at a pretty constant rate unless there was mass quitting across the server XD.
Good point. Why didn't SE make the Lord of Onzo drop a rare/ex version that had 100%? Still 250mil >_> a more reasonable price whould be 30mil or even 8mil XD
i'd pay 10 million at most
watching a crab constantly buff himself with defense boost makes me a sad panda.
watching a crab constantly buff himself with defense boost makes me a sad panda.
if that was the case the would be no chance getting it :(
I'd still call it a toy.
What good is getting extra TP when your off-hand is hitting for so little damage, and you'll be hitting for 0 (no TP) on anything with high defense.
I had a pt in Bibiki Bay as 64NIN, our BRD had a kraken. sure, it was fun watching the BRD whack away at the birds, but the nonstop Helldives, Broadside Swipes, and Wing Cutters were definately not welcome.
That being said, I still want one :)
Gimme haste with Souleater + Bloodweapon, and I'll have some fun.
What's it worth to me? Factoring in it's rarity, current inflation prices, and coolness factor, I'd say 25-30mil, but wouldn't buy it unless I had everything else I wanted first (which is a pretty big list)
What good is getting extra TP when your off-hand is hitting for so little damage, and you'll be hitting for 0 (no TP) on anything with high defense.
I had a pt in Bibiki Bay as 64NIN, our BRD had a kraken. sure, it was fun watching the BRD whack away at the birds, but the nonstop Helldives, Broadside Swipes, and Wing Cutters were definately not welcome.
That being said, I still want one :)
Gimme haste with Souleater + Bloodweapon, and I'll have some fun.
What's it worth to me? Factoring in it's rarity, current inflation prices, and coolness factor, I'd say 25-30mil, but wouldn't buy it unless I had everything else I wanted first (which is a pretty big list)
There is a drk/nin in my party (as pld) using kraken.
The mob is using a tp move every 3-5s. We have a brd, a whm, 3 melee and myself, so not massive healing support. The extra ws's are really hurting us...I doubt we'll get over like chain 3.
Currently afk because the whm agreed to raise someone mid-party and has spent like 15min trying to find the person, still hasn't, and finally they're just going to come back -.-
Edited, Sat Jan 28 08:56:36 2006 by SirEaglestrike
The mob is using a tp move every 3-5s. We have a brd, a whm, 3 melee and myself, so not massive healing support. The extra ws's are really hurting us...I doubt we'll get over like chain 3.
Currently afk because the whm agreed to raise someone mid-party and has spent like 15min trying to find the person, still hasn't, and finally they're just going to come back -.-
Edited, Sat Jan 28 08:56:36 2006 by SirEaglestrike
lol Lady you went AFK just to post that your whm went AFK to raise? XD hhahahhahaha why am I still here?
<.< I wouldnt pay over 15mill for that warp club on crack
<.< I wouldnt pay over 15mill for that warp club on crack
The setup was mnk, drk, thf, pld, whm, brd, so we couldn't fight anything when the whm was gone...
In the first 50 minutes of that party, we killed 5 mobs, the 5th killed me.
In the first 50 minutes of that party, we killed 5 mobs, the 5th killed me.
Sweet, looks like my paid hit was successful.
Er, I mean, I know nothin'
Er, I mean, I know nothin'
SirEaglestrike wrote:
The setup was mnk, drk, thf, pld, whm, brd, so we couldn't fight anything when the whm was gone...
In the first 50 minutes of that party, we killed 5 mobs, the 5th killed me.
In the first 50 minutes of that party, we killed 5 mobs, the 5th killed me.
Going rate is around 250 mil, but only cause of it's rarity. Kraken can be both detrimental and awesome, but it's situational.
Only use on hnm has been stated, drk with se + bw. There really is no comparison to this combo damage-wise (other than ridill, but imo kraken is still better). For xp parties, it's only good for mobs with crappy tp moves like crabs and crawlers. But for tw to ep mobs and ballista, it's pretty damn cool.
The only people that buy this are 100 crafters with nothing else to buy... and gilbuyers.
Only use on hnm has been stated, drk with se + bw. There really is no comparison to this combo damage-wise (other than ridill, but imo kraken is still better). For xp parties, it's only good for mobs with crappy tp moves like crabs and crawlers. But for tw to ep mobs and ballista, it's pretty damn cool.
The only people that buy this are 100 crafters with nothing else to buy... and gilbuyers.
It's a waste in exp, but is very useful on certain end game mobs.
A great example is dynamis lord. One of the most damaging things out there against him is a DRK going bloodweapon + soueater + kraken. Also, several of the LS's on other servers that have taken down Jailer of Love, DRK's with kraken's played a big role.
So yea, if you want an exp weapon, you're better off off-handing your warp cudgel, but there are situations in end game where it really shines.
But end of the day, 250 mil? Thanks, but I'll pass.
Edited, Fri Feb 3 14:09:02 2006 by AugieZwan
A great example is dynamis lord. One of the most damaging things out there against him is a DRK going bloodweapon + soueater + kraken. Also, several of the LS's on other servers that have taken down Jailer of Love, DRK's with kraken's played a big role.
So yea, if you want an exp weapon, you're better off off-handing your warp cudgel, but there are situations in end game where it really shines.
But end of the day, 250 mil? Thanks, but I'll pass.
Edited, Fri Feb 3 14:09:02 2006 by AugieZwan
i use mine with my drk for alot of stuff out side of xp. but only used it in xp once, and didnt like it.
some said its nice every 6 minutes for 30 seconds with souleater. its 60 seconds...if you can last that long. only time i ever use souleater without using bloodweapon with kraken is if something absolutely has to die now and i dont care if i die. other then that, its bloodweapon/souleater only. with a drk its truely the most dmg ive seen any job do. its the most damaging weapon in the game when a drk has their JA ready. by far.....by a long shot. to bad its only in short spurts. but while bloodweapon/souleater is up, its like using all 2hours for drk/mnk/pld at the same time.
some said its nice every 6 minutes for 30 seconds with souleater. its 60 seconds...if you can last that long. only time i ever use souleater without using bloodweapon with kraken is if something absolutely has to die now and i dont care if i die. other then that, its bloodweapon/souleater only. with a drk its truely the most dmg ive seen any job do. its the most damaging weapon in the game when a drk has their JA ready. by far.....by a long shot. to bad its only in short spurts. but while bloodweapon/souleater is up, its like using all 2hours for drk/mnk/pld at the same time.
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