ooh i get to start dramaFollow

I did not read any of the posts above, just the original post.

This being said, I don't think it should be ok since you're not asking for any god/hnmls gear. Well, I mean it's a good thing you're not greedy, but what an HNMLS needs ACTIVES members to work.

Having let's say 10 RNG (picking this job as random exemple) but noone of them is really active so you may have 1 to 8 RNG attending an event, simply doesn't work.

Joining an HNMLS should mean being really motivated for HNM/Gods/Triggers-pop NMs stuff. If doing that as main FFXI activity is not what you looking for, just don't join an HNMLS then. You don't HAVE to you know ^^

It's not about you're less active so you get less stuff, It's about the LS needs to know who to count in for daily stuff.

Edited, Fri Sep 23 07:16:58 2005 by Kamikam

Shuffles... and people wonder why I don't join an HNMLS.

I look at this (and is it me or is there progressively more and more of this type of thing going on?) and remind myself how happy I am to have graduated HS so long ago that most people in HMNLS's weren't even alive at the time.

I've done one event with Solstice because I knew someone and I had fun and everyone was very polite and nice towards me. But I see things posted here and I do have to wonder, not just about Solstice but about all HNMLS, about the rules most follow.

But I do have a question about all this, if Solstice isn't a 'chat' LS, why do so many people have it equipped while doing other things? I see people in XP parties with it equipped, Bazaaring with it equipped, running about jeuno and other places with it equipped, and even as very low level jobs (for whatever reason) with it equipped. Surely these people are not engaged in an HNM run while Bazarring in Jeuno, or while XPing as their 40 BRD? I would assume that means they are chatting.
Hell I know at least one member of Solstice that spends a VAST majority of their time in their MoG house doing nothing BUT chatting on the LS. So I do have to wonder about that part.

In the end each LS has it's own rules. if the situation was that Shuffles said he'd only be able to help from time to time and he was accepted then he was accepted knowing that he wouldn't be around or available much. So he accepted your rules and you accepted his caveats. At somepoint, someone obviously changed the terms of the arrangement. Or there was a great misunderstanding at the outset.

Thankyou to those that support me.

I think its best if I become a free mercernary. So if I am free, and people need help with a god or popped nm (i really like the idea of popped nms, people should do these more) Please let me know. If I am free, I would love to help. Unless you ask me to help with G1 paper then please go to hell :P

This is all I wanted. Do i want anything out of this, no just friendship and maybe a little respect.

Plus if my whm ever gets to 75, i want that new armor so i can become a whm/nin tank that kicks all your asses lol.

knowing fockr's & stellars rl age's....Id have to ask why you would join a HNMLS specifically run by teenagers and then expect them to understand that you have responsability (thats a 4 letter word to a teen, you know) They can't even understand when their friends/boyfriends/girlfriends have RL responsabilities.
Why not form an age specific linkshell for those over 25 who have a clue about how to treat people and who understand responsability. **not all are this way, there are exceptions
Fockr & STellar both forget how much of a pain it was for them to beg for help back before they were lvl70+. I remember poor Fockr having to pay some stupid Ranger to help with part of his AF in Ordelles (I was there helping with Dub -free- then went off to fart around with some low lvl job) Stellar forgets when he needed G1 help. Having a WHM that doesnt mind tagging along to help -no strings attached- is beyond useful.
I'd say perhaps they should rethink.......a whm can do many things to help: Powerlevel, teleport, raises etc there is ALOT more than just triggers & gods.
Fockr, what about your Bard? You seemed to really like it....wouldn't it have been great to know there was a WHM who wouldve helped you -no harm no foul- get your AF or Mary's horn or that fantastic lvl 60ish Harp?
Yeah he came and made this public, quit being a sissy about it. This is what forums are for, to ask for HELP. Also, Shuffles..I too was (retired) a whm with a life but rather than join HNMLS (I did recieve offers) I knew better than to join because I couldnt commit to set times and I like to level at my own leisure rather then rush rush rush stress rush to hit 70. You can still help people out and not have to be in a HNMLS. I know it seems to be the thing to do but it is amazingly easy to resist the peer pressure and still be able to have cordial relations with most HNMLS folks.



Edited, Fri Sep 23 12:41:54 2005 by niobia

it strikes me that if this is the way the application was presented to the leaders of Solstice, then there is 0 excuse for them failing to understand why you didn't come to a LS event. You make it VERY clear that you will go when you can, and that there are other things IN GAME that you like to do so often (I gather) won't be around to help even when you ARE in game.

IF, and I have nothing to go on other than the comments posted here, this IS the case, then for anyone in Solstice to complain when Shuffles was in game doing one of those other things he wanted to do instead of going to an LS event is just plain pointless. You accepted a member on this condition, that he might be in game but not coming to your event, and that apparently is what happened. So if I follow this along correctly, Shuffles was honet and open with the LS, he stated clearly what he was and was not going to do, and that sometimes he simply would rather be doing other things, the LS accepted this (obviously, since he got a pearl) and then when Shuffles did exactly what he said he would do, he was kicked out. Now, again based solely on what has been posted here, there is clearly a problem when someone does what they said they would do and are punished for it. And I'm pretty sure it's not with the person on the recieving end of things.

Replace "sometimes" with "always", then add bad attitude when asked if he'll ever make good and actually attend an event once in a while and you've got a better grasp of it.

The obvious retort here is "and what the hell business is it of yours what he does with his time?". If this is something that Solstice feels they have a right to know, then I'm even more inclined to take shuffle's side in this. I am honestly starting to see something very unpleasant in all this. There is an element of control here, deny it all you want anyone reading here can see it clearly from the nature of the posts by Solstice members.

Prior to this thread I had rather high opinions of both Shuffles and Solstice, I admit both have taken a bit of a beating (after all there are always 3 sides to a story - yours, mine, and the truth), but overall Solstice has taken the worst of it in my mind.

Personally I'd love to see Solstice's rules and policies. Just to see how they match up with the comments made here.

Didnt he say he went on vacation for 3 weeks? So you expect him to play and lvl WHM during his vacation time? so I guess Shuffles stories was right, you expect him to help the LS and lvling WHM when he's on vacation.

" August 17th, at that time your whm was 67, and you claimed you would get it to 70 "within the next few weeks"

Yes this is true, until i kept getting parties where i was getting 1k an hour. And some parties I actually lost xp.

I got discouraged and gave up, just recently i decided to bite the bullet and get it over with, even with the crappy partys.

I hate lvl, hate hate hate, I have probably been in about 10 lvling parties in the past 6 months.

Again, you ignore the fact, I said exactly when I would be starting to help. My application went in well before aug 17, thats when around i got the pearl, cause thats when I was on vacation. I have been in the ls for about a month, 3 weeks of that I was on vacation.

Please tell me, in those three weeks did you expect me to give up my time to help? And do you know what its like to come back to a job after 3 weeks of vacation, to a job that only you can do. Do you know how much stuff has to get done. During the past couple of weeks I am tired, real tired, I come home, and like to relax. YOu start events at 6, I am just getting home from work, I woudnt mind eating and relaxing first.

When i do get on, I have only been on for a couple of hours except for past couple of days when i have been lvling my whm, why because stellar said he was ok with that.

I havent been home much the last couple of weeks, I have been out, either work late or out training someone. In a week or so, things will be back to normal, then i have more time.

You have events sceduled friday sat and sun night at 6pm eastern, and you complain when people dont show. Did it occur to you, these are times when people that have a social life tend to go out.

"Replace "sometimes" with "always", then add bad attitude when asked if he'll ever make good and actually attend an event once in a while and you've got a better grasp of it. "

When asked I told EXACTLY when i would start helping. And bad attitude, when rex is calling me a liar, and insulting my character (not game character), ya I am going to tell him to **** off. I asked him to leave me along and he just kept at it, over and over.

So, is that what you consider a bad attitude, then ya i have a bad attitude when people are personally attacking me.

I am such a horrible person.

Tiffie you are right about trying to help out as much as possible in the beginning, and I had ever intention to do so, but it took so long to get a pearl, and the bad timing of getting the pearl when i started my vacation was the reasons i didnt go gung ho right off the bat.

The wanting to lvl the whm to be honest I didnt see as a problem. I thought that having my whm at 70 would actually be a bonus to the hnmls even though i was admitted because of my ranger.

Having a member that can switch to healer if the event is too DD heavy I would think would be a bonus. But i guess I was wrong, thats why i didnt think at that time, lvling whm while still in the ls wouldnt be a horrible thing, thats why i mentioned it in the app, and thats why I told stellar what I was going to do and get it over with.

Sure timing was a bit bad, but flexiblity is warranted considering the situation.

And part of the reason I wanted to lvl whm to 70, was a friend I know since my first day in the game is lvling bst, he tends to die alot, alot of this was to help benefit him too. That way he can log on my account, raise himself and not lose much xp.

thats a nice idea but have you learned nothing of the Kluyasafoya - Ensane - GLLS B.S.?Nomatter how much you trust a RL friend....don't let them use your account.

Hey, shouldn't some of these kids be in school??? its 10:52 am here which is only what 2:52 EST? isnt school still in session???

She gave both Ck & me just 2 mil...Love gave me 1mil for crafting which I paid back using 1 of the 2mil I got off Ranel. I know CK wouldn't give her the gil back and I know you were pressuring her to have me give you the gil - it is her gil and I wanted her to be able to use it for her. Making up lies opens a huge can of worms Eddie.
Ranel not only got her 2mil back she also got gear.If you are that greedy, go buy more gil or have Ck pay you back.
This is why you need to be in school... 2mil doesn't equal 3mil nomatter how hard you wish it would.

***Its funny you claim to help yet my only memories of you is you bugging Dub for help and trying to trainkill parties that wouldnt help you.

Edited, Fri Sep 23 14:03:34 2005 by niobia