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#1 Feb 08 2010 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Spoilers, I guess.

So I watched this over the weekend (three hours of pseudo-plot going nowhere in a hurry) and had a question at the end.

Night Owl Sr tells NO Jr that the superheroes started when some cops started wearing costume to ***** with the gangsters who were wearing costumes. But the current crop (plus Comedian) seemed to possess at least somewhat supernatural speed and strength. Comedian punches chunks out of his apartment walls in his fight with Ozy. Ozy smashes Comedian's head through a granite bar top. Comedian is still alive after this. Also, Comedian held up very well for a guy around 70 years old.

The others (NO Jr, Silk-whatever, Rorschach) all seem to posses agility & strength beyond the norm as well as they dodge bullets, beat up bad guys, etc. Are they supposed to be "super"heroes (and, if so how did they get their powers) or is this just Batman style "I'm the most skilled guy in the world at everything!" chicanery?

Obvious, Dr. M is "super" in the classic sense of the word. I mean the other guys.
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#2 Feb 08 2010 at 2:50 PM Rating: Good
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Are they supposed to be "super"heroes (and, if so how did they get their powers) or is this just Batman style "I'm the most skilled guy in the world at everything!" chicanery?


Batman style chicanery. Their skills are just the result of intensive dedicated mental/physical training. The "head through the granite countertop" thing I just take as as the Comedian being one tough old *******, and as for him punching through the apartment walls... well, drywall isn't exactly the most durable stuff in the world...

Out of curiosity, have you read the book?


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#3 Feb 08 2010 at 3:17 PM Rating: Good
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They're supposed to be just regular people who want to do the right thing. Its just their abilities are all amped up to make the action more interesting. Batman on the other hand is more powerful than God (which is why God works for Bruce Wayne) and shouldn't, at any point, be thought of as just a skilled individual.

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#4 Feb 08 2010 at 3:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Out of curiosity, have you read the book?

Nope.

Re: Comedian, I was referring more to a punch he swung where he busted out a chunk of a lintel corner (which actually looked to be a stone/marble work but I didn't rewind it) than his "fist through the drywall" punch.

But Batman-style silliness it is, then!
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#5 Feb 08 2010 at 3:56 PM Rating: Good
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Read the book. There's a lot of stuff that the book talks about that the movie doesn't. And yes, the book is better. It usually is. :)
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#6 Feb 08 2010 at 4:08 PM Rating: Good
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Just supposedly intense physical training. Even for the nerd.
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#7 Feb 08 2010 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Only Ozymandias comes close to being a genuine superhuman (which is why he's actually able to catch a bullet), apart from doc M ofcourse but his case is due to a freak accident.

All the others are more or less olympian quality athletes, with gadgets. Which I have to agree with Rykhorne is pretty much what Batman is.

The book is better, but the ultimate cut (with the Black Freighter animation worked in the movie and all extra scenes in it) is pretty good too.

edited to add: this movie too confirms the dangers of superheroes with capes!


Edited, Feb 8th 2010 11:30pm by Zieveraar
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Only Ozymandias comes close to being a genuine superhuman (which is why he's actually able to catch a bullet)

Forgot about that part. Actually, that whole sequence all "Super-ninja chop!" although Ozy was more super-ninja than the other guys, hence his kicking their *** repeatedly.

I doubt I'll bother to read it unless a copy falls into my lap. I found the plot rather tedious and dragging and don't really have interest in revisiting it in written form. Certainly not to pay money for the pleasure.

Edited, Feb 8th 2010 5:24pm by Jophiel
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#9 Feb 08 2010 at 5:40 PM Rating: Decent
do try to read the book, you didn't say wither you liked or disliked the movie. The graphic novel is much better and is a good buy imo.
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#10 Feb 08 2010 at 6:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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do try to read the book, you didn't say wither you liked or disliked the movie. The graphic novel is much better and is a good buy imo.


I think this was a good representation of his feelings on the movie:

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I didn't like the comic much, either. It just seemed to go on and on without actually getting anywhere.
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I didn't like the comic much, either. It just seemed to go on and on without actually getting anywhere.


That's how I felt about your mom last night! OH SNAP!
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#13 Feb 08 2010 at 11:49 PM Rating: Good
I thought the whole "I did it ten minutes ago" line was much, much more powerful in the graphic novel. The movie almost made it an after thought.
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#14 Feb 09 2010 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
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Just forget you ever saw that movie and read the book.
#15 Feb 10 2010 at 7:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Omegavegeta wrote:
I thought the whole "I did it ten minutes ago" line was much, much more powerful in the graphic novel. The movie almost made it an after thought.


The whole ending seemed to be more powerful in the GN, there's also seemingly more on the futility of what Ozymandias did, more about Bubastis,...

But then, only natural not to be able to tell it all.
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#16 Feb 10 2010 at 9:02 AM Rating: Good
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Just forget you ever saw that movie and read the book.


The movie wasn't bad. It certainly entertained me, but I saw it in Imax so Dr. Manhatten's **** was like, 2 stories tall.

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#17 Feb 10 2010 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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The movie wasn't bad. It certainly entertained me, but I saw it in Imax so Dr. Manhatten's **** was like, 2 stories tall



It was not that bad but it really doesn't do justice to the graphic novel.
#18 Feb 10 2010 at 5:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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The movie wasn't bad. It certainly entertained me, but I saw it in Imax so Dr. Manhatten's **** was like, 2 stories tall



It was not that bad but it really doesn't do justice to the graphic novel.


I didn't think his **** looked all that big in the graphic novel myself... you must have had the deluxe edition or something.
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#19 Feb 11 2010 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe I should have left the **** part out of the quote.

Good one though, I giggled. Rate-up
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