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#27 Jul 13 2009 at 11:44 PM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:

Also, Insomnia by Stephen King is one of my all-time favorite books (one of the few I've read more than once) and every time I read it, I see certain celebrities as the characters in the book. I've heard rumors that they're making a film, but IMDb.com has nothing on it yet.


Considering the dismal track record of King adaptations, I'd just as soon they didn't. 20 years later and I'm still annoyed at the clusterf*ck that was the tv miniseries of IT (which is MY all-time favorite King novel.)

The problem with King is that his best material is not in the form of dialogue, but rather narration and internal monologues of the sort that would be clumsy to translate to screen. Take, for instance, the LOL-funny scene in IT when the pothead is watching the standpipe collapse and roll down the hill. To start with, the very best line from that scene ([Had he been standing downhill the rush of water would have swept him away but] "God protects fools, children, and the cataclysmically stoned") is automatically lost unless you either have another character witnessing this scene or you do it in the form of a voiceover (blech.) The character's reactions to the standpipe slowly bending and then breaking could be translated from narration to verbal expressions all right, but the hilarity of his constantly replaying the thought that the standpipe looks like "that f*cked-up tower in Pisa, the one on all the macaroni boxes" would almost certainly get lost in translation. In the end, pretty much all you'd be left with is a stoned guy screaming "FAR F*CKING OOOUT!!" a great deal, which isn't very funny. What makes the scene so fun in the book is lost.

Now, that scene was pretty disposable, which is why nothing like it was in the miniseries, but it's part of what made the book so great--that sort of attention to detail and King's ability to capture a moment, even from a passer-by's point of view in a throwaway scene that has little to do with anything, but still gives the book it's flavor. To be fair, however, let's address a more critical scene that really NEEDS to make it from the book into the movie if the movie is going to be even remotely true to the book, such as the final chapter of IT.

In the book, the chapter is split between two sequences. In one, Bill is evaluating himself and his life, pondering what to do about his catatonic wife, wondering if he still has the adolescent recklessness to put into motion the crazy plan he's concocted to bring her back.

In the other, Bill is dreaming very poignantly about his childhood in Derry. You bounce back and forth between passages from these two sequences (which is yet another amazing feat of writing on King's part, to be able to do that and keep the narrative coherent.)

In turns, you see Bill reach out and become a child, with a child's belief in magic, one last time in order to recapture the life-saving power that infused his relationship with his bike, Silver, taking his catatonic wife on one last suicidal ride through Derry's flooded streets and shocking her back to consciousness.

Interspersed with that you get this very soft, dreamy description of what Derry looks like in the late day as Bill drives through it on his way out of the town, and then a moment when he sees the Barrens and thinks about his childhood friends which provokes the tear-worthy unspoken line in the narration: "I loved you children. I loved you so much." Which is the point at which you truly understand he's never again going to see--or even remember--these other children with whom he formed such an incredibly close bond that it drew them together after nearly 30 years apart, and you FEEL that loss. He wakes from the dream ALMOST remembering his childhood and the friends he'd had.

In the movie, he takes his wife on a bike ride. She wakes up. And that's it. You never understand just how the bike ride was able to wake her, because the movie never captured the talisman-like quality of the bike, Silver, and how important it had been in saving his life that summer. And you certainly don't get that amazing dream sequence with all its lovely imagery and poignant farewell.

Sorry, this ended up being way longer than I anticipated, but I've spent a lot of time pondering WHY King doesn't translate well to screen, and I think the answer is that it's just too cerebral. Too much of what he writes happens in the mind, or in the narration, and just doesn't adapt well to a medium which is largely dependent upon physical action and dialogue.

#28 Jul 15 2009 at 4:23 AM Rating: Good
None. I'd like movies to be original creations based on what the medium can offer, as opposed to an industry churning the same old repetitve ******** year after year. I've never seen a book-turned-movie where I thought the movie did justice to the book. Same for computer games. If they make a Warcraft movie, I swear I'm heading over to Paris and do a hunger strike in front of Blizzard headquarters. Which won't be easy cos they have lots of nice croissants and pastry in Paris.





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#29 Jul 16 2009 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
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If they make a Warcraft movie, I swear I'm heading over to Paris and do a hunger strike in front of Blizzard headquarters. Which won't be easy cos they have lots of nice croissants and pastry in Paris.



Pack your bags, you're going to Paris.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0803096/

#30 Jul 16 2009 at 3:45 PM Rating: Good
Uglies. Followed, of course, by Pretties, Specials, and Extras. We haven't had a good hoverboard movie since Back to the Future.

Good Omens. (Rumored to have been in production for ages.)

The Little White Horse. (The best Disney movie Disney never made.)

Edit: YAY! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0986270/

Edited, Jul 16th 2009 7:48pm by catwho
#31 Jul 20 2009 at 1:43 AM Rating: Good
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Pack your bags, you're going to Paris.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0803096/


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#32 Jul 20 2009 at 3:52 AM Rating: Good
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Making Love, the Bruce Campbell Way would make an awesome movie.
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#33 Jul 22 2009 at 5:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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The dragon riders of Pern would be a great series on HBO or the like.


No, the CGI isn't good enough yet for this. It would be crushingly disappointing to **** on my childhood like that.

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#34 Jul 22 2009 at 11:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nexa wrote:
rosleck wrote:
The dragon riders of Pern would be a great series on HBO or the like.


No, the CGI isn't good enough yet for this. It would be crushingly disappointing to sh*t on my childhood like that.

Nexa


The one good thing about that ****** Eragon movie was that the dragon was absolutely amazing. (I think I know where their entire budget went....)

I think it could be done, anyway.
#35 Jul 22 2009 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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Lady isyris wrote:
Nexa wrote:
rosleck wrote:
The dragon riders of Pern would be a great series on HBO or the like.


No, the CGI isn't good enough yet for this. It would be crushingly disappointing to sh*t on my childhood like that.

Nexa


The one good thing about that sh*tty Eragon movie was that the dragon was absolutely amazing. (I think I know where their entire budget went....)

I think it could be done, anyway.


I agree, the CGI is definitely there to do dragons. The Fel Beasts in LOTR were terrific, and I can't wait to see Smaug in the upcoming movie of The Hobbit.

#36 Jul 22 2009 at 12:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Eh, maybe, but the dragons in the Pern series aren't comparable to any of the others mentioned. Smaug will be mostly in a dark room or far away, and while his scenes are great and I'm excited about them, they have less work to do there than they would with multiple dragons who express a great range of emotions and where making the mating scenes and death scenes not absurd or silly looking would be, I think, very difficult. I'm afraid it would end up looking about as good as Aslan did in the Narnia series.

Maybe if they got the teams from LOTR and the Golden Compass together to work on it.

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#37 Jul 22 2009 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe if they got the teams from LOTR and the Golden Compass together to work on it.


Why would you want that? The film massacred the panzerbjorn.

Honestly, I don't think that showing the dragon's emotions is limited by the CGI as such; ideally, a dragon's body language would subtly betray its emotions, with none of that every-animal-has-eyebrows-and-human-facial-expressions ****. Of course, that's much harder to do right, but what you need is skilled animators, not better tech.
#38 Jul 27 2009 at 10:50 AM Rating: Good
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Good Omens.

QFT. Or American Gods. Those are probably my top two favorites. However, I doubt that Hollywood would do either one right. I was disappointed in Stardust (not that it was bad, just wasn't really much like the book at all), but loved Coraline.

Looking on Wikipedia, seems Gaiman's got a couple more movie-adaptations in the works:

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In 2007 Gaiman announced that after ten years in development the feature film of Death: The High Cost of Living would finally begin production with a screenplay by Gaiman that he would direct for Warner Independent. Don Murphy and Susan Montford are the producers, and Guillermo del Toro is the film's executive producer.

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Neil's 2009 Newbery-Medal winning book The Graveyard Book will be made into a movie, with Neil Jordan being announced as the director during Gaiman's appearance on The Today Show, 27 January 2009.


Aside from pretty much anything from Gaiman, I'd like to see Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files or his Furies of Calderon series. Yes, I saw the Sci-fi channel's short-lived series a couple years ago; it wasn't bad, but wasn't what I'd call "good." I'd still like someone to give it a decent treatment.
#39 Jul 28 2009 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
Oooh, I thought up another one after re-reading another fantasy series I love. The Kushiel series by Jaqueline Carey. I doubt it will ever happen in the US though. We're far too prudish to produce a movie or TV show that openly promotes prostitution and BDSM.
#40 Jul 28 2009 at 3:00 PM Rating: Good
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Oooh, I thought up another one after re-reading another fantasy series I love. The Kushiel series by Jaqueline Carey. I doubt it will ever happen in the US though. We're far too prudish to produce a movie or TV show that openly promotes prostitution and BDSM.


I adore these books passionately, but I will be perfectly happy never seeing them adapted for the screen. A large part of what makes them so beautiful is Carey's gorgeous and elegant use of language and strong narrative voice, and that would be lost in any sort of visual adaptation, so all you'd be left with is a story of political intrigue peppered with fantasy featuring a *****. Meh.

#41 Jul 28 2009 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
Roger Zelazny's Amber books would be amazing.

Any Tom Robbins book would be hilariously random to watch on the big-screen.
#42 Aug 05 2009 at 11:34 PM Rating: Decent
Ambrya wrote:
PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
Oooh, I thought up another one after re-reading another fantasy series I love. The Kushiel series by Jaqueline Carey. I doubt it will ever happen in the US though. We're far too prudish to produce a movie or TV show that openly promotes prostitution and BDSM.


I adore these books passionately, but I will be perfectly happy never seeing them adapted for the screen. A large part of what makes them so beautiful is Carey's gorgeous and elegant use of language and strong narrative voice, and that would be lost in any sort of visual adaptation, so all you'd be left with is a story of political intrigue peppered with fantasy featuring a *****. Meh.



That's a very good point. Plus I highly doubt any director or what have you would do a good job at making Phedre a sympathetic character. And I can't think of anyone I could see playing her either.

Damn I wish we treated prostitution like the D'Angelines did and allowed it to be a respectable profession. Hell, even something like the Ancient Greeks or the Japanese with Geishas would be preferable.
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