Tonight's my first time back in this forum in a few months, but I've noticed that there are no Dune discussions...
It's one of my favorite series. I'd always wished that Frank Herbert hadn't died so that I could read about what happens after Duncan flees from the Bene Gesserit/Honored Matres and how the Face Dancers were slowly moving in from the uncharted areas outside the known universe to conquer everything.
I think that the prequels were well done and had the same feeling as the original series, but Brian Herbert did have his father's notes, and I have a feeling that he may have been involved in some of the later writing of the original saga. I didn't read the great house books, but I loved the Butlurian Jihad... It explains so much about the world of the original series, though I do wonder what will become of the Omnius probes launched from Ghedi Prime in the first book of that series...
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I've heard rumouts about Brian Herbert writing the last book. I think he found his father's notes for the last book. We can only hope.
The original series are definitely my favourite series. I'm not that happy with what Brian and Kevin J. Anderson did with it though, the House trilogy wasn't that bad and gives a nice view on what could have happened.
Some of the characters and events in that trilogy I didn't like much though. Especially what happened to Duncan Idaho.
(spoilers on the Legends trilogy)
Unfortunately, I just hated the Legends trilogy. The Butlerian Jihad was just too incoherent and written much too easily. Everything just surprisingly happens at the same time, all things that are vital to the Dune universe of Herbert just comes to live, at the same time and with surprising ease.
The writing irritated too imo, too many different angles in too short paragraphes and chapters, there's just never a sense of one big story being told. (unlike Anderson's other series: 'Saga of the Seven Suns', which uses the exact same method but it works a lot better)
It's all personal opinion ofcourse, and I'm truly eager to read Dune 7 and 8. Can't wait actually, after all, Brian and Kevin are basing a lot of what they write on material that Frank Herbert left behind. So, normally, with a bit of luck, we will indeed find out what exactly happened to Duncan after he left with the final worm of Arrakis.
Some of the characters and events in that trilogy I didn't like much though. Especially what happened to Duncan Idaho.
(spoilers on the Legends trilogy)
Unfortunately, I just hated the Legends trilogy. The Butlerian Jihad was just too incoherent and written much too easily. Everything just surprisingly happens at the same time, all things that are vital to the Dune universe of Herbert just comes to live, at the same time and with surprising ease.
The writing irritated too imo, too many different angles in too short paragraphes and chapters, there's just never a sense of one big story being told. (unlike Anderson's other series: 'Saga of the Seven Suns', which uses the exact same method but it works a lot better)
It's all personal opinion ofcourse, and I'm truly eager to read Dune 7 and 8. Can't wait actually, after all, Brian and Kevin are basing a lot of what they write on material that Frank Herbert left behind. So, normally, with a bit of luck, we will indeed find out what exactly happened to Duncan after he left with the final worm of Arrakis.
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Tonight's my first time back in this forum in a few months, but I've noticed that there are no Dune discussions...
The original series is amazing and deserves its title of a classic of sci fi. The prequels by Brian and Kevin J. Anderson were horrible, I bought the House Trilogy and only read midway through the second book it was so hackney and trite that it boggled the mind. I wasnt expecting much seeing as how Brian Herbert isnt the greatest writing and basically made a career off the fact that his father was a good one. When they brought in Anderson who is the author of perhaps some of the most cheese Star Wars pulp fiction to help co-write I winced. Together they made some truly crap literature.
Supposedly they have come upon the early manuscript and notes of the sequel to the last book in the original Dune trilogy that Frank Herbert was working on before his death that was stashed away in a bank security deposit box and once they are done raping the series in prequel form they are going to put the sequel out once they have thoroughly molested all that was good about it.
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I have read the Dune series by Frank Herbert and it is my favorite Sci-Fi series. I was thinking of reading the books by his son but I hear they are a disappointment.
I have also seen the old Dune movie (long and short versions) and the new Sci-Fi channel Dune and Children of Dune. I think the Sci-Fi channels version was better (closer to the book) but I wish they could have cast Patrick Stewart again.
Has anyone heard rumor of the rest of the series? I hope they finish it off, at least through Chapterhouse.
I have also seen the old Dune movie (long and short versions) and the new Sci-Fi channel Dune and Children of Dune. I think the Sci-Fi channels version was better (closer to the book) but I wish they could have cast Patrick Stewart again.
Has anyone heard rumor of the rest of the series? I hope they finish it off, at least through Chapterhouse.
This is my favorite series. What I would really like to read is a biography of Frank Herbert himself. The man seemed to have lead and interesting life and I often wondered how he ended up writting such an interesting collection of books. I went back recently and found most of his shorter books that predate the Dune series and was equally impressed by these and some of the ideas he conveys in these books. I still need to read the Dosadi Experiment though, heard it is good.
Brian Herberts books... meh. I read them just because of my craving for more of the Dune Universe in my life. I almost wish I hadn't read them, honestly. I suppose, as a true addict, I will read the next Dune sequel when Brian finishes it, hopefully Franks notes will help it be a better story.
Brian Herberts books... meh. I read them just because of my craving for more of the Dune Universe in my life. I almost wish I hadn't read them, honestly. I suppose, as a true addict, I will read the next Dune sequel when Brian finishes it, hopefully Franks notes will help it be a better story.
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Above is the biography written by Brian Herbert, haven't read it myself though, hopefully it's better than what Brian made of the Dune books he wrote/helped write.
Frank Herbert's other stories are not bad, but I'm not fond of his books with Bill Ransom. ("Lazarus effect" for instance) Other than that, only read good things.
Above is the biography written by Brian Herbert, haven't read it myself though, hopefully it's better than what Brian made of the Dune books he wrote/helped write.
Frank Herbert's other stories are not bad, but I'm not fond of his books with Bill Ransom. ("Lazarus effect" for instance) Other than that, only read good things.
I read most of he White Plague before I had to return it to the library and never saw it again. It was pretty cool.
Kevin J anderson needs to have all his limbs capable of producing literature removed for the good of humanity, that is all.
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Kevin J anderson needs to have all his limbs capable of producing literature removed for the good of humanity, that is all.
True, true, but I would still vote to wait until he finishes Dune 7 and 8. I know someone else could do a better job, but I'm just too impatient, I just have to know next year what happens.
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I read most of he White Plague before I had to return it to the library and never saw it again. It was pretty cool
That's a good one, almost a completely different genre (like "The Dragon in the Sea" is) but still pretty good.
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