Delirium LS question...Follow

XxDeliriumxX is the LS name... I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on the problem's I'm having with them if anyone knows them.

I'll be the first to admit I'm not the nicest person if someone provokes me. Without provocation I'm usually pretty nice though :P

So I've been farming Itzpapalotl scales out in Attohwa for the past week or so and until recently it was going just fine. Tuesday night however, after killing Itz then heading back to chigoes to gold farm, someone by the name of Phaffi shows up shortly after I pull and proceeds to steal all the chigoes I pull. Claiming that he had been there longer than us (he hadn't) and for us to just move in on the (empty at the time) camp was outrageous. I shrugged it off because I'm used to jerks since reactivating my account back in April. A little while later we pull again and sure enough, Phaffi comes alone to kill every one we pull. A racial slur and 30 mins later I'm in jail lol.

Tonight we're out here again trying to finish the dagger and sure enough I run into their LS again. This time at Blazing Eruca. We pop and buddy who's tanking it DCs so they steal it. I got KI anyways so I didn't really care, but could have killed it myself regardless. Next we move to Itz to pop it and as we're killing it they all gather around waiting for their chance to steal it, it looked like. They didn't but seriously, wtf? Does anyone know them? Maybe you could tell me why for no obvious reason they think they own everything?

Ok apparently you're friends with the guy. Understandable that you would take the time to point out the obvious that everyone is aware of.

Thank you, I understand yellow is fair game, but I guess I expected someone to be civil about it. You don't purposely go around (won't use stealing anymore because you don't seem to understand that I didn't mean it by the dictionary definition) taking all the mobs you can from people who are aoe killing mobs do you? Or maybe you do idk. If someone is at a location aoe killing mobs generally people will either A) move somewhere else or B) share the mobs like a decent human being. Then there's blatantly being a **** about it and thinking you should have all the mobs regardless, which is what they chose to do.

As for letting the NM unclaim, that WASN'T on me because I don't control how SE's claim system works. Guy DC'd and the mob instantly turned purple regardless that I had hit the mob and turned around before he DC'd.



I sling racial slurs for far less, and it was because of Phaffi taking all our chigoes, not the NM. I realize my first post was 2 paragraphs so I can see how someone might confuse it, not that it matters. Hell, I've said the Negro word in shouts before. People on this server seem to have gotten too sensitive since I stopped playing 3 years ago >.>

I too was also surprised that the GM wasn't worthless. It's good to know that if someone is calling me names and my feelings get hurt I can go tell on them to a GM and they will get put in jail.

Edited, Aug 5th 2011 12:20pm by Cadant

I believe you're the one that isn't reading; it doesn't ******* matter if you were the instigator or not; killing other people's cleave pulls is a **** move sure, but allowed by the mechanics of the game; whereas racial slurs are a violation of the ToS, plain and simple. I could give a **** if you think you're a nice guy when nobody is pissing you off, most sane people don't fly off the handle about such petty things, and think that using racial slurs are a perfectly acceptable recourse.

You need to get it through your thick skull that just because you pulled a bunch of chigoes, they are not yours, they do not belong to you, and somebody that comes along and pulls from or kills your train is not stealing from you, as it's pretty hard to steal something that never belonged to you in the first place. You can feel free to disagree all you want, but until SE makes it so you can hold claim over 20 mobs at once, I'm pretty sure they agree with me on the issue.



If you're going to go online and ***** about things, yeah, it usually helps to have some sort of clue as to what you're ******** about. The only thing you 'had coming to you' was the jail sentence for using such ugly language; everything else is just a result of game mechanics working as they should. Chigoes are a popular camp because they're weak as **** and easy to pull; competition of that sort is rather prevalent in FFXI, and especially Abyssea. The smart thing to do in that situation would've been to try and work out an accomodation with the other players, or go cleave at a different camp and avoid wasting more time; the response you chose goes to show who the 12-yr old is in this discussion, I think.

Though Phaffi, from my personal experience, does tend to be extremely selfish and will go out of his way to ***** others over for his own self gain (such as going into Walk of Echoes with a few others in his ls and having one of them intentionally and repeatedly MPK any people that were in there that weren't part of their group so that they'd not be able to score high, etc), you were in the wrong here as far as your response to his actions. Intentionally pulling off you and killing mobs you were mass pulling is an inconsiderate move no matter how you look at it, but as people have pointed out, if it's yellow, it's fair game in the eyes of a GM, regardless of how it went yellow. However, you throwing out derogatory comments in response was in very poor form, and against the Terms of Service for playing the game, so you getting jailed was your own fault.

As anyone would tell you, there are better ways you could have handled it. Moving to a different camp would have been one solution, or even just doing the same to Phaffi in kind as far as killing mobs his group would be mass pulling (I'm not saying that would have been the best course of action, but it would have at least been better than the choice that you made. As for the NM situation, all I can recommend is just do whatever it takes to make sure that it stays claimed to your group at all times, because if it goes yellow (without any interference on their part as to what led it to go yellow) and they take it, they were well within their right to.

As for the comments in here, let's try to avoid any insults guys. There's no need for any flaming, so keep it clean.