Well, after a quite embarrassing end to a poorly constructed venture into the DM arena, I've decided to skip the crap and just host a manaburn version. Unless you have already spoken with me, if you aren't 73+BLM, then you have no reason to read any further. Sorry.
Requirements(Not negotiable):
-BLM, level 73+(Thundaga III, 'nuff said)
-/WHM subjob available for use(Fast Cast is bad)
-Some form of RR(Be it hairpin, or the spell)
-The ability to tell time(See below)
-The ability to pay attention(See below)
-The ability to follow instructions(See below)
-The flag for Divine Might's quest(See "Outlands")
-And most importantly, Reliability
*If you qualify for all of those things, keep reading*
For all of you who are not familiar with how a manaburn of Divine Might is taken into action, here is cheating one of the hardest BCNMs in the game in a nutshell.
An alliance of BLMs(varying in size, see below) gather together at that the closest range to the enemies that will allow them to cast. When said measure is taken, I, the timekeeper(yes, the timekeeper, I'm all-powerful dontcha' know), will call out a time on the Vanadiel day-clock. Be it :05, :58, :23, or what have you, that is the time in which every BLM will cast Thundaga III on the target. Doing this will instantly kill every Ark Angel in the arena, at which point we will have won.
Now, as you could probably guess by my sarcastic comments in the requirements section, there is a bit of risk involved. Why? Well that's simple, little Billy. I'll let you in on a little secret.
Most - BLMs - Are - Self-absorbed - Idiots
Yes, thats right everyone. Most of us don't like to take orders, and are unable to follow instructions. The key to winning this BCNM in this manner, is to time it perfectly, or as close as we can come to perfect. There can be a lot of mishaps if timing is off. BLMs can die, Ark Angel EV can Benediction... you name it, and it can happen(Yes, Maat can teleport inside the arena and AoE-Asuran Fists us for the wipe).
N-E-Who. That's Divine Might. The minimum number of BLMs required for this fight(without merits in Thunder Potency), is 15. I will require that at least 3 people have Ark Pentaspheres. Not because I want to have to do this 3 times, more because I don't want to do this 3 times, get it perfect, and be **** out of luck. I'm sure you understand.
The date for this event will be Saturday, April 1st. The time will be decided once I get a better idea of what works best for everyone. So when posting your request to join, please note your available times, along with your current lvl. Also post if you have a friend who isn't a BLM who would like to come along. We need a minimum of 15 to be successful, as I said, so that means there are 3 spots open for leeches. I will decide which 3 leeches get to go with us, granted we don't have more than 15 BLMs who want to go. BLMs take precedence over leeches.
One day before the run, Friday, I will post the official time, and directions to the La'off Ampitheater.
I hope to hear from you, and know we will have a very successful quest run.
1.Neejee(BLM74)
2.Yobun(BLM75)
3.Seansweann(BLM73)
4.Captainplanet(BLM75)
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17.Vadiant(Sam75)
18.Teronix(BRD75)
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Edited, Mon Mar 27 18:28:13 2006 by TaruBeneathTheTaru
Edited, Tue Mar 28 19:18:46 2006 by TaruBeneathTheTaru
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need bards? :P
If so, me (Skirmish) and Teronix can come as 75 bards.
We will be free on Saturday anytime as long as we are noticed at least a day before so we can fit in our time. :P
Edited, Mon Mar 27 09:19:27 2006 by SkirmishLakshmi
If so, me (Skirmish) and Teronix can come as 75 bards.
We will be free on Saturday anytime as long as we are noticed at least a day before so we can fit in our time. :P
Edited, Mon Mar 27 09:19:27 2006 by SkirmishLakshmi
Yo Neejee can you add me to the list? Even though I'm lvl 70 BLM I'll try to lvl it up this week and squeeze it to lvl 72 at least. I can get a couple of BLM buddies to go in as well who are lvl 73+ if I can hopefully join. I also have a RDM buddy who is interested. Plus my wife should be around lvl 72 with me if we push it this week so thats another plus. So if I join it will be a nice package deal.
Edited, Mon Mar 27 08:59:09 2006 by djnemonic
Edited, Mon Mar 27 08:59:09 2006 by djnemonic
Everytime something gets manaburned, God kills a mithra.
Well as long as they aren't the Mithran BLMs that will be participating, let 'em die. Djnem, I'm not allowing any BLMs under 73, so if you can get to that by Saturday, you're welcome to join.
I'll add you to the list when I see leveling progress.
I'll add you to the list when I see leveling progress.
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Wasup Neejee I want to do this so I will give you a tell ingame I can be there at any time on saterday just as long as I get a few days notice. count me in 73blm/whm
I apologize for this ensuing rant:
Is this the default response to
You lost once to with a poorly organized event (shock!) and now send in the BLM troops? Yeah I know you don't care, but still it's so retarded. One loss and the response isn't what went wrong what were we missing? How could I make this work? Nah ***** that crap, just send in BLMS. No stategy, no learning, no accomplishment, just victory.
Well whatever, have fun with your "victory" or whatever you call it.
since you asked (though not that you care since I obviously chose the wrong job and are thus only a 3rd class citizen to the glorious BLM overlords):
/nominate "Hate 'em"
Is this the default response to
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Well, after a quite embarrassing end to a poorly constructed venture into the DM arena, I've decided to skip the crap and just host a manaburn version.
You lost once to with a poorly organized event (shock!) and now send in the BLM troops? Yeah I know you don't care, but still it's so retarded. One loss and the response isn't what went wrong what were we missing? How could I make this work? Nah ***** that crap, just send in BLMS. No stategy, no learning, no accomplishment, just victory.
Well whatever, have fun with your "victory" or whatever you call it.
since you asked (though not that you care since I obviously chose the wrong job and are thus only a 3rd class citizen to the glorious BLM overlords):
/nominate "Hate 'em"
So Neejee even if I bring about 2-3 BLMs with me that are qualified for helping purposes and a RDM I can't be one of those leeches? I heard that only 12 BLMs are needed anyways.
Having all BLMs dont mean victory lost in a manaburn in the past so its not a perfect win thats for sure lol
I'm 0/5 on DM I'll get it done w/e but not in a huge rush I will wait for a properly planned run.
I'm 0/5 on DM I'll get it done w/e but not in a huge rush I will wait for a properly planned run.
meh, manaburn definately don't gurantee win. Any pickup pt is subject to retarded ppl, thats blm included. The melee DM pts are just fine, u just have to know the strategy. U can't fly into anything like that halfassing, and if u do it with blm u will whipe too. If one blm goes too early, the AA will whipe u real good, just be mindful of that.
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FinalElysium, were you on the Sunday, 26th March 2006, DM run?
If you were there, you should know what happened there. The chance for that setup to work is really slimmed. Thanks to the great organizer who actually made everyone from the original list wait for 5 hours just to be wiped in about 5 minutes.
7 BLMs (range from 70-75), 3 DRK (72-75), 1 NIN (75), 1 WAR/NIN (73), 1 THF/NIN (73), 1 MNK (75), 1 RNG (75), 2 BRD (75), 1 WHM (75)
That was the setup after the people for original setup left (you can read the original setup either here or in VNboard). If we went in with the Original setup, we would have a high chance to win but the great Organizer had to ruin it all up himself by turning up late and pissed most of the people in list.
What was wrong?
1. Organizer posted asking everyone to gather at Sky at 7 PM EST and he himself still in Sacrarium by that time. Many /tell were sent to him and all he replied 'I'm omw' and even after 1 hour, He was still there. People got pissed and left. Eventually he got there at 8:30 PM EST or around there. And of course, with almost everyone left, there was not enough people to run. And the organizer getting desperate and decided to invite all BLMs to fill the spot.
2. Organizer himself did NOT have the Ark Pentasphere (showing how unprepare he was or does not care about the run as well as turning up late). IMO, the organizer himself should have any items required to enter the battle ready before setting up a run.
3. The Organizer himself did NOT realise until the end that there was not enough Kiters (from here you should have the idea how great he is in organizing stuffs). The melees were 73 WAR/NIN, 73 THF/NIN, 75 MNK, 75 RNG, 75 NIN, 2x DRK. The only available Kiter good for this was the NIN. In a desperate strategy, 73 WAR was placed as the other Kiter. And of course from the setup you should know, there was not enough support class at all to help with kiting.
4. Eventhough the chance was pretty slim, everyone decided to give it a go, went in, some of the BLMs did not pay attention and the Timing was way off and you know what happened next. All the Mages were wiped in less than 3 minutes and none of the Ark Angels dead.
It wasn't meant to be a half-*** manaburn run. But since everyone left coz the Organizer himself turning up so late without any notice at all, the run was desperately being set-up and trying to get all BLMs and some other jobs to fill the empty slots which was a retarded move.
And because of that half-*** manaburn setup, the idea to setup a real manaburn run came across Neejee's mind.
so.. to everyone, unless you know what was going on, please do not post any negative comments.
Edited, Mon Mar 27 18:19:24 2006 by tuinkkk
If you were there, you should know what happened there. The chance for that setup to work is really slimmed. Thanks to the great organizer who actually made everyone from the original list wait for 5 hours just to be wiped in about 5 minutes.
7 BLMs (range from 70-75), 3 DRK (72-75), 1 NIN (75), 1 WAR/NIN (73), 1 THF/NIN (73), 1 MNK (75), 1 RNG (75), 2 BRD (75), 1 WHM (75)
That was the setup after the people for original setup left (you can read the original setup either here or in VNboard). If we went in with the Original setup, we would have a high chance to win but the great Organizer had to ruin it all up himself by turning up late and pissed most of the people in list.
What was wrong?
1. Organizer posted asking everyone to gather at Sky at 7 PM EST and he himself still in Sacrarium by that time. Many /tell were sent to him and all he replied 'I'm omw' and even after 1 hour, He was still there. People got pissed and left. Eventually he got there at 8:30 PM EST or around there. And of course, with almost everyone left, there was not enough people to run. And the organizer getting desperate and decided to invite all BLMs to fill the spot.
2. Organizer himself did NOT have the Ark Pentasphere (showing how unprepare he was or does not care about the run as well as turning up late). IMO, the organizer himself should have any items required to enter the battle ready before setting up a run.
3. The Organizer himself did NOT realise until the end that there was not enough Kiters (from here you should have the idea how great he is in organizing stuffs). The melees were 73 WAR/NIN, 73 THF/NIN, 75 MNK, 75 RNG, 75 NIN, 2x DRK. The only available Kiter good for this was the NIN. In a desperate strategy, 73 WAR was placed as the other Kiter. And of course from the setup you should know, there was not enough support class at all to help with kiting.
4. Eventhough the chance was pretty slim, everyone decided to give it a go, went in, some of the BLMs did not pay attention and the Timing was way off and you know what happened next. All the Mages were wiped in less than 3 minutes and none of the Ark Angels dead.
It wasn't meant to be a half-*** manaburn run. But since everyone left coz the Organizer himself turning up so late without any notice at all, the run was desperately being set-up and trying to get all BLMs and some other jobs to fill the empty slots which was a retarded move.
And because of that half-*** manaburn setup, the idea to setup a real manaburn run came across Neejee's mind.
so.. to everyone, unless you know what was going on, please do not post any negative comments.
Edited, Mon Mar 27 18:19:24 2006 by tuinkkk
You read my post, and instantly know my life story? Hey, guess what? **** you. I did DM the traditional way on both THF, and RNG. I have decided not to put myself into another overly difficult situation that isn't necessary, because of my job.
This may be a much easier approach to a difficult BCNM(Of which I recognized it as one of the MOST difficult, mind you), but it requires strategy. You know what? You're not part of that strategy, sorry. Am I a god because I'm a BLM? Of course not, thats silly. Are you welcome into a fight that has a job-based strategy just because you think we are full of ourselves? No. And before you throw around comments of my thinking of I have a God mentality, cruise on over to where I insulted most of the population of my job. I have very, very little respect for 90% of the BLMs on our server.
I'm sorry, but no one person's friend takes precedence over anyone else. I'm making this fair. And FYI, I know Jersey and Kennyster too, I could have gotten them to help just as easily as you could. BTW, I really don't know how you expect me to take critisizm from you after that joke of an event you "lead".
Again, please refer to my original post. I already regarded this as a difficult BCNM to master, even in a manaburn setting. Personally though, I find myself to be a very good leader in most situations, and I know a lot about this BCNM. I made a well-thought-out post about an event I want to sponser. We would love to have you along, Octavious, but its ultimately your judgement call.
meh, manaburn definately don't gurantee win. Any pickup pt is subject to retarded ppl, thats blm included. The melee DM pts are just fine, u just have to know the strategy. U can't fly into anything like that halfassing, and if u do it with blm u will whipe too. If one blm goes too early, the AA will whipe u real good, just be mindful of that.
See the first part of the paragraph above you.
The last post pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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since you asked (though not that you care since I obviously chose the wrong job and are thus only a 3rd class citizen to the glorious BLM overlords):
This may be a much easier approach to a difficult BCNM(Of which I recognized it as one of the MOST difficult, mind you), but it requires strategy. You know what? You're not part of that strategy, sorry. Am I a god because I'm a BLM? Of course not, thats silly. Are you welcome into a fight that has a job-based strategy just because you think we are full of ourselves? No. And before you throw around comments of my thinking of I have a God mentality, cruise on over to where I insulted most of the population of my job. I have very, very little respect for 90% of the BLMs on our server.
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So Neejee even if I bring about 2-3 BLMs with me that are qualified for helping purposes and a RDM I can't be one of those leeches? I heard that only 12 BLMs are needed anyways.
I'm sorry, but no one person's friend takes precedence over anyone else. I'm making this fair. And FYI, I know Jersey and Kennyster too, I could have gotten them to help just as easily as you could. BTW, I really don't know how you expect me to take critisizm from you after that joke of an event you "lead".
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Having all BLMs dont mean victory lost in a manaburn in the past so its not a perfect win thats for sure lol
I'm 0/5 on DM I'll get it done w/e but not in a huge rush I will wait for a properly planned run.
I'm 0/5 on DM I'll get it done w/e but not in a huge rush I will wait for a properly planned run.
Again, please refer to my original post. I already regarded this as a difficult BCNM to master, even in a manaburn setting. Personally though, I find myself to be a very good leader in most situations, and I know a lot about this BCNM. I made a well-thought-out post about an event I want to sponser. We would love to have you along, Octavious, but its ultimately your judgement call.
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meh, manaburn definately don't gurantee win. Any pickup pt is subject to retarded ppl, thats blm included. The melee DM pts are just fine, u just have to know the strategy. U can't fly into anything like that halfassing, and if u do it with blm u will whipe too. If one blm goes too early, the AA will whipe u real good, just be mindful of that.
See the first part of the paragraph above you.
The last post pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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FinalElysium, were you on the Sunday, 26th March 2006, DM run?
If you were there, you should know what happened there. The chance for that setup to work is really slimmed. Thanks to the great organizer who actually made everyone from the original list wait for 5 hours just to be wiped in about 5 minutes.
7 BLMs (range from 70-75), 3 DRK (72-75), 1 NIN (75), 1 WAR/NIN (73), 1 THF/NIN (73), 1 MNK (75), 1 RNG (75), 2 BRD (75), 1 WHM (75)
That was the setup after the people for original setup left (you can read the original setup either here or in VNboard). If we went in with the Original setup, we would have a high chance to win but the great Organizer had to ruin it all up himself by turning up late and pissed most of the people in list.
What was wrong?
1. Organizer posted asking everyone to gather at Sky at 7 PM EST and he himself still in Sacrarium by that time. Many /tell were sent to him and all he replied 'I'm omw' and even after 1 hour, He was still there. People got pissed and left. Eventually he got there at 8:30 PM EST or around there. And of course, with almost everyone left, there was not enough people to run. And the organizer getting desperate and decided to invite all BLMs to fill the spot.
2. Organizer himself did NOT have the Ark Pentasphere (showing how unprepare he was or does not care about the run as well as turning up late). IMO, the organizer himself should have any items required to enter the battle ready before setting up a run.
3. The Organizer himself did NOT realise until the end that there was not enough Kiters (from here you should have the idea how great he is in organizing stuffs). The melees were 73 WAR/NIN, 73 THF/NIN, 75 MNK, 75 RNG, 75 NIN, 2x DRK. The only available Kiter good for this was the NIN. In a desperate strategy, 73 WAR was placed as the other Kiter. And of course from the setup you should know, there was not enough support class at all to help with kiting.
4. Eventhough the chance was pretty slim, everyone decided to give it a go, went in, some of the BLMs did not pay attention and the Timing was way off and you know what happened next. All the Mages were wiped in less than 3 minutes and none of the Ark Angels dead.
It wasn't meant to be a half-*** manaburn run. But since everyone left coz the Organizer himself turning up so late without any notice at all, the run was desperately being set-up and trying to get all BLMs and some other jobs to fill the empty slots which was a retarded move.
If you were there, you should know what happened there. The chance for that setup to work is really slimmed. Thanks to the great organizer who actually made everyone from the original list wait for 5 hours just to be wiped in about 5 minutes.
7 BLMs (range from 70-75), 3 DRK (72-75), 1 NIN (75), 1 WAR/NIN (73), 1 THF/NIN (73), 1 MNK (75), 1 RNG (75), 2 BRD (75), 1 WHM (75)
That was the setup after the people for original setup left (you can read the original setup either here or in VNboard). If we went in with the Original setup, we would have a high chance to win but the great Organizer had to ruin it all up himself by turning up late and pissed most of the people in list.
What was wrong?
1. Organizer posted asking everyone to gather at Sky at 7 PM EST and he himself still in Sacrarium by that time. Many /tell were sent to him and all he replied 'I'm omw' and even after 1 hour, He was still there. People got pissed and left. Eventually he got there at 8:30 PM EST or around there. And of course, with almost everyone left, there was not enough people to run. And the organizer getting desperate and decided to invite all BLMs to fill the spot.
2. Organizer himself did NOT have the Ark Pentasphere (showing how unprepare he was or does not care about the run as well as turning up late). IMO, the organizer himself should have any items required to enter the battle ready before setting up a run.
3. The Organizer himself did NOT realise until the end that there was not enough Kiters (from here you should have the idea how great he is in organizing stuffs). The melees were 73 WAR/NIN, 73 THF/NIN, 75 MNK, 75 RNG, 75 NIN, 2x DRK. The only available Kiter good for this was the NIN. In a desperate strategy, 73 WAR was placed as the other Kiter. And of course from the setup you should know, there was not enough support class at all to help with kiting.
4. Eventhough the chance was pretty slim, everyone decided to give it a go, went in, some of the BLMs did not pay attention and the Timing was way off and you know what happened next. All the Mages were wiped in less than 3 minutes and none of the Ark Angels dead.
It wasn't meant to be a half-*** manaburn run. But since everyone left coz the Organizer himself turning up so late without any notice at all, the run was desperately being set-up and trying to get all BLMs and some other jobs to fill the empty slots which was a retarded move.
AAAAA hahaha, Im sorry to all thsoe that wiped, but thats got to be one of the funniest things Ive read in awile.
Ouch...just.... ouch.
Yeah, I have to admit it was funny, but in a pathetic way. 5 hours of waiting, 3 minutes of battle, 1 charge on my RR hairpin, and 500 EXP... For nothing.
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That was the setup after the people for original setup left (you can read the original setup either here or in VNboard). If we went in with the Original setup, we would have a high chance to win but the great Organizer had to ruin it all up himself by turning up late and pissed most of the people in list.
Then why didn't you kick the leader and get a replacement? Or was he so important that you couldn't win without? You said so yourself with the original setup you had a high chance of winning, so what happened that suddenly a manaburn is the only solution? Not to be rude, but i think a good leader would've stepped up, kept people together, and made it happen (with the original 17 + replacement). That's most likely unfair though so I'll leave it at that.
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And because of that half-*** manaburn setup, the idea to setup a real manaburn run came across Neejee's mind.
Oh I see, because the half-*** manaburn party failed miserably, the idea that a real manaburn was the way to win came to Neejee's mind. Faulty reasoning 4tw.
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You read my post, and instantly know my life story? Hey, guess what? @#%^ you. I did DM the traditional way on both THF, and RNG. I have decided not to put myself into another overly difficult situation that isn't necessary, because of my job.
LOL oh i know you, the mysterious connection problems during exp parties (of which I was in), the elitist ignoring of tells (also a first party too). Anyway I heard that you have changed for the better so that's good and I won't hold it against you. Old reputations die hard, but everyone gets a second chance.
Anything more I type will just degenerate into a flame war so I think I'll cut my losses and run. Sorry for the mini-war as it is. I just have strong feelings on the matter and had put my nose in where it doesn't belong.
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Then why didn't you kick the leader and get a replacement? Or was he so important that you couldn't win without?
You make hostile takeovers sound much easier than they really are.
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You said so yourself with the original setup you had a high chance of winning, so what happened that suddenly a manaburn is the only solution?
Of course it wasn't the only solution. I've done the tradional method twice, and its a lot of hard work. Maybe some people think that style is fun, but I'm not one of them. I, personally, have never had the opportunity to manaburn it. Opinion is in the eye of its beholder. I think trying to manaburn it for change would be -fun-.
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Oh I see, because the half-*** manaburn party failed miserably, the idea that a real manaburn was the way to win came to Neejee's mind. Faulty reasoning 4tw.
This is an exageration, nothing more. The only time manaburn came up in our run, was in our approach to wipe out AATT. He is arguably the biggest threat in the beginning, and we wanted to have all the BLMs wipe him out right off the bat with a timed line of Flares. No other Ark Angel was going to be handled in that manner.
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LOL oh i know you, the mysterious connection problems during exp parties (of which I was in), the elitist ignoring of tells (also a first party too).
When I feeled pressured into staying in a party that I've made it clear I don't want to be in, yes, I sometimes intentionally disconnect myself. I suppose you could assossiate me with "crying wolf" in this category, because for every time that I intentionally did it, you can count on the fact that just as many were real DCs. I sometimes can't control the pop-ups on my computer, and when I'm on PS2, my connection isn't always reliable.
I don't ignore /tells unless I've been given a reason to. It is not a form of elitism, just personal choice to avoid conflict which will usually come out of responding to said /tells. Other than that, I probably just missed them.
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Anyway I heard that you have changed for the better so that's good and I won't hold it against you. Old reputations die hard, but everyone gets a second chance.
I would strongly like to agree with that, I have changed for the better in a very large way. Despite your seemingly-hostile posts in here, based on that I can tell pretty clearly that your not here to start a war with me, so I'll respect your opinions and walk away. If you would like to discuss this further, in a civil manner, feel free to /tell me in game, I would love to chat.
All of that said, lets get some more BLMs for this! d^.^
First of all i didn't criticize you in any way Neejee. I KNOW it was a ****** run that I put on my behalf it was my fault don't have to keep ***** repeating it to those who know what happened it happened. I said sorry already nuff said so stop bragging about it. Another thing I DO know other BLMS other than the ones you mentioned Neejee. So its ok forget I even bothered asking I'll set up my own manaburn run in the future I'm not even sweating this game anymore and XBOX 360 has way more exciting games than this atm. So I'll just patiently hit lvl 75 BLM and get my own buddies to set up a run if anything. I'm not even gonna bother putting anymore posts asking to join up on this run to this thread. Good Luck if you beat it you beat it if you don't you don't.
Edited, Tue Mar 28 09:20:56 2006 by djnemonic
Edited, Tue Mar 28 09:20:56 2006 by djnemonic
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Hello, it's Gumu. I was part of Djnem's catastrophe of a run... I was one of the 3 or 4 people who actually showed up on time >.> Freaking Djnem didn't even appologize after being an hour and a half late for his own event...
Anyways, if you end up having any spare spots, please let me know, I've been dying to get this done forever :P
Anyways, if you end up having any spare spots, please let me know, I've been dying to get this done forever :P
Gumu, I apologized 10 times. Everyone who was there knew I apologized before and after that ****** run. I'm sorry again FYI. Anyways Good Luck on your Manaburn Run. I should have just cancelled it alltogether since 1/2 the people on the list didn't show up even if I was on time.... Sorry again Gumu I'm sorry to waste you time on that run. I spent another 4 hours trying to shout for BLMs as fillers.....but that didn't work still. Sorry again to everyone who attended.
Edited, Tue Mar 28 09:28:38 2006 by djnemonic
Edited, Tue Mar 28 09:28:38 2006 by djnemonic
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Everyone who was there knew I apologized before and after that sh*tty run. I'm sorry again FYI. Anyways Good Luck on your Manaburn Run. I should have just cancelled it alltogether since 1/2 the people on the list didn't show up even if I was on time.... Sorry again Gumu I'm sorry to waste you time on that run. I spent another 4 hours trying to shout for BLMs as fillers.....but that didn't work still. Sorry again to everyone who attended.
I won't say anything anymore, those who were there know the best what was going on and whether the stuffs you just said above is all true or not. Gumu and couple others might know best too, since they were already there since 7 PM EST until the alliance was disbanded.
Just an advice, setting up a run is not an easy task.
A great responsibility is required such as turning up on time, having the items required, posting up what kind of preparation needs to be done such as cutscenes and where/how to get them, posting up on forum about what medicines or food/drinks to bring for each job (tank, melee, mages), posting up a briefing on the strategy that will be used and asking if anyone has better opinions and so on.
You can't just go around and telling people I gonna lead a run on x day, those who need it, sign up here, i'll make a list and everyone gather at X place at Y time without telling anything else. This could work if everyone already know what kind of run it will be. But there will be always new people who don't know anything about the run so it would still be better if you revise everything.
I honestly think I did a pretty good job on my post for this, I see no revisions to be made. If you can think of anything else that needs to be added, please let me know. Suggestions are always welcome.
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My previous post was not aimed at you, Neejee, since you already posted that you will give instructions and such a day before the run.
The post was meant to everyone to actually reconsider the points before they setup a run and not just somehow setup a run without knowing/doing much.
If the run is successful, it's the organizer who will get credit the most and it will give good impression to those who joined in the run. Even if the run is unsuccessful but if the organizer already showed good effort and good attitude in organizing stuffs, he/she will still get a good credit. So I don't see the bad things to do more research and be well-prepared and well-informed before trying to organize a run. If you are lazy or do not have time to do that, it's better to just wait for someone else to setup the run and join in.
The post was meant to everyone to actually reconsider the points before they setup a run and not just somehow setup a run without knowing/doing much.
If the run is successful, it's the organizer who will get credit the most and it will give good impression to those who joined in the run. Even if the run is unsuccessful but if the organizer already showed good effort and good attitude in organizing stuffs, he/she will still get a good credit. So I don't see the bad things to do more research and be well-prepared and well-informed before trying to organize a run. If you are lazy or do not have time to do that, it's better to just wait for someone else to setup the run and join in.
28 posts
I would like to try and join. The time might be the biggest problem for me though. I should be able to join anytime after 8:00 PM EST. If for some reason I cannot make it, I will either post on the messageboard or try to send you a /tell in game. I am a 75 Black Mage.
Scholar
47 posts
Its me again Neejee the man with the only Pentasphere the other day lol. Your probably full but if you have 1 spot open send a tell please. Dauntess 75 DRK.
Ah, cruel irony.
I hit 75 BLM recently, would love to get this done, but I am helping friends move to their new house on Saturday and I can't commit to any timeframe during that day. I couldn't even be sure we won't be out with them late into the evening.
If by some chance or reason this is postponed to another date, I'd be interested in adding some Thundaga III to the mix.
Dwyn
I hit 75 BLM recently, would love to get this done, but I am helping friends move to their new house on Saturday and I can't commit to any timeframe during that day. I couldn't even be sure we won't be out with them late into the evening.
If by some chance or reason this is postponed to another date, I'd be interested in adding some Thundaga III to the mix.
Dwyn
I shouldn't even care about this post since I've had my earring, but something caught my eye:
And hence..................This is the bull$hit mentality why people say "Black Mage are too powerful and need to be nerfed."
I really really hate to be in a flame war and waste my time, but I really feel the need to address this because the poster used "overlords," which is plural meant to attack all BLM and even nominates to hate them all from the way he states his opinion.
The only reasoning from your original post was that you are crying because you lost on your run for DM and a member from your original run won't let you leech on a manaburn setup. Now you've decided to be bitter and instead of finding a resolution to your problem, you've resorted to bashing BLM and add to the moronic stereotype in regards to BLM.
The only real thing BLM have going for them are thier powerful nuking ability. BLM have, if not the lowest defense in the game, then one of the lowest. Thier melee damage is miniscule compared to any and all regular melee DD. Not to mention that we are restricted to subbing another mage job and probably really only have two options (whm or rdm) because we heavily rely on Stoneskin and Blink or else our spells get interrupted by mobs as low level as EP.
God forbid that BLM could get so lucky as to be able to burn somthing with magic.... the only thing we have going for us!
I don't hear people bashing BLM when they need Sleepga for ZM, CoP, Quests, Missions, Links, etc? I don't hear people bashing BLM when they need them for Gods, HNMs, and Kings for bursting and/or Stunning? I don't hear people bashing BLM when they pwn things for Dynamis and all the drops are for melee?
I hope a BLM never helps you or is in your gods/hnm LS. I'd love to see how far you go and the difficulty of you reaching your goals without BLM. (Too bad that wish is not realistic)
~B
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since you asked (though not that you care since I obviously chose the wrong job and are thus only a 3rd class citizen to the glorious BLM overlords):
/nominate "Hate 'em"
/nominate "Hate 'em"
And hence..................This is the bull$hit mentality why people say "Black Mage are too powerful and need to be nerfed."
I really really hate to be in a flame war and waste my time, but I really feel the need to address this because the poster used "overlords," which is plural meant to attack all BLM and even nominates to hate them all from the way he states his opinion.
The only reasoning from your original post was that you are crying because you lost on your run for DM and a member from your original run won't let you leech on a manaburn setup. Now you've decided to be bitter and instead of finding a resolution to your problem, you've resorted to bashing BLM and add to the moronic stereotype in regards to BLM.
The only real thing BLM have going for them are thier powerful nuking ability. BLM have, if not the lowest defense in the game, then one of the lowest. Thier melee damage is miniscule compared to any and all regular melee DD. Not to mention that we are restricted to subbing another mage job and probably really only have two options (whm or rdm) because we heavily rely on Stoneskin and Blink or else our spells get interrupted by mobs as low level as EP.
God forbid that BLM could get so lucky as to be able to burn somthing with magic.... the only thing we have going for us!
I don't hear people bashing BLM when they need Sleepga for ZM, CoP, Quests, Missions, Links, etc? I don't hear people bashing BLM when they need them for Gods, HNMs, and Kings for bursting and/or Stunning? I don't hear people bashing BLM when they pwn things for Dynamis and all the drops are for melee?
I hope a BLM never helps you or is in your gods/hnm LS. I'd love to see how far you go and the difficulty of you reaching your goals without BLM. (Too bad that wish is not realistic)
~B
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