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#1 Mar 06 2006 at 12:09 PM Rating: Default
http://flypicture.com/bin/?id=rt/9kand
last night this Harbingers THF with famous RMT team Atii camp against me ww

i think Harbingers LS turning to RMT LS
/sigh Harbingers R.I.P.



Edited, Mon Mar 6 12:35:15 2006 by sinocast
#2 Mar 06 2006 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent


Edited, Mon Mar 6 12:35:43 2006 by sinocast
#3 Mar 06 2006 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
Ok we are NOT and RMT LS so that will stop right there and I am very upset that you said that and please next time you wanna flame someone use your real name and dont make a new account to do so, as I am a SH for Harbingers I will look into this.

#4 Mar 06 2006 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
Ok follow up: I just talked to him in game and he said RMT is his friend and was helping him but that doesnt not matter in my eyes and Synikal was removed from our LS...Harbingers does not support RMTs!

Edited: Typos probally more

Edited, Mon Mar 6 12:58:31 2006 by MilkManMOO
#5 Mar 06 2006 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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The actions of one person hardly dictate the attitude of an entire LS....

Its good that the LS Leaders are now aware of the problem, however this is not a very respectable way of bringing it up. They have already delt with the issue at hand, so its now your turn to step up and retract your statement abour the LS as a whole.

Wich isnt likely to happen. Mr/Mrs. whothehellareyou? >.>

Edited, Mon Mar 6 13:15:17 2006 by DexxH
#6 Mar 06 2006 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
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http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/deathbeckonslakshmi/detail?.dir=d7c9&.dnm=3cfcre2.jpg&.src=ph
my conversation with synikal....
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#7 Mar 06 2006 at 1:20 PM Rating: Default
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I'm glad to see the LS sacks and leaders handled this quick and effectively. We need more of this. And Synikal can hide behind whatever friendship he claims, but the fact is, you help RMT's, you **** over the rest of us, big deal if they helped you. That's -why- they help people, so said people will later help them, to hell with the legit players.

Props to Harbingers.
#8 Mar 06 2006 at 1:22 PM Rating: Default
OK Thanks for follow up. i really don't know any other LS what they do.

thankz for clearing up my mind.

btw. i was afk there and they try to MPK me. ww

Edited, Mon Mar 6 13:26:43 2006 by sinocast
#9REDACTED, Posted: Mar 06 2006 at 2:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok this is to clear this kid lies up.Im synikal in game
#10REDACTED, Posted: Mar 06 2006 at 2:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hmm and to answer that about i help RMT i say **** you to the server if thats how you feel then so be it lol because i have friends that are RMT dosent make me not legit player i worked for evrything i have now over 3years almost to get alli have now i dont have anytype of problem with any race chinese jp NA i dont care there as many ******* that are JP as in NA you seem to fit 1 of the ******** from NA if i recall youre the guy that was ast adam HNM cursing SnD out cuz they coudent kill it fast enough because they had only 4 ppl there while you were telling em off ******** like a little girl so coming from you that coomment meant nothing!
#11REDACTED, Posted: Mar 06 2006 at 2:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) that last thread was for sixtail sorry for even posting this up again
#12 Mar 06 2006 at 4:14 PM Rating: Default
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Honestly, while I in no way condon RMT I can see where Syn is coming from.. If the LS wasnt there to help him kill this NM but RMT's were, what does it matter?... on the note of helping them.. well regardless what they did a favor is a favor.. if he told them hed help he shouldnt break a promise to a friend under any situation. If some of my Game life long friends turned out to be RMT's (the ones that have extended there hand to more people including myself than I could even count) I could not and would not turn my back on them, Even if it was social suicide..

I just dont see why this is an issue he is not helping them farm or sell gil.. and not to mention can you honestly sit here and say that if you were working for X Months straight to get X Item that if an RMT gave his time to help that you wouldnt be grateful?.. would you spit in the kindness he gave you?.. or when the time came and he said "Man i just need a DD for this R/E Sword can you help me please?" Could you say nah man your an RMT?.. if so i see that being low..

Well just my Opinion.. Syn did not help the RMT with anything that has to do with Selling so why should he be attacked for repaying a debt?

Edit to add:

I have had the pleasure of having Syn's help on a few things.. Namely running to beaduax (sp?) to help a mnk in my ls he didnt even know to end up getting there right after key dropped.. so i can see syn being the type to help alot of people so even with this on his record this should not desocialize him as if was a RMT himself.

Edited, Mon Mar 6 16:19:13 2006 by DarknightMagnus
#13 Mar 06 2006 at 4:58 PM Rating: Default
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argg wrote:
Hmm and to answer that about i help RMT i say **** you to the server if thats how you feel then so be it lol because i have friends that are RMT dosent make me not legit player i worked for evrything i have now over 3years almost to get alli have now i dont have anytype of problem with any race chinese jp NA i dont care there as many ******* that are JP as in NA you seem to fit 1 of the ******** from NA if i recall youre the guy that was ast adam HNM cursing SnD out cuz they coudent kill it fast enough because they had only 4 ppl there while you were telling em off ******** like a little girl so coming from you that coomment meant nothing!
synikal


Learn to spell, braintrust. So what if you've been around 3 years? You trash your rep by helping RMT's get better gear, who f'n cares if they helped you?

And no, I was telling FH along with SnD to kill the King Turtle that their pld warp claimed faster instead of half-assing it so I could go farm. They had about 18 people, five of them blm's. Get your facts correct, but thanks for at least being open that you help RMT's.
#14 Mar 06 2006 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Although I suppose I... Kinda see.. Where Magnus is coming from, As I doubt I would turn my back on a longtime friend. However, There really isn't any excuse for helping a RMT get Byakko's Haidate. Or any item. What makes them better, Makes them richer. What makes them richer, Hurts all clean players on the server. Alright, You're friends with them. To each his own. But helping them damn near makes you yourself an RMT, In my eyes, And the eyes of most people.

As for bashing the entire LS becuase you saw one of them with RMT's, It is not only idiotic and unsupported, But you don't even show your name in your post.

To sum it up, If you flame Synikal, Fine. If you plan on bashing Synikal's LS, Which I have heard quite good things about.. GTFO.
#15REDACTED, Posted: Mar 06 2006 at 5:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Heh ok well im glad that some ppl have open-minds and can see where im coming from when theres others that like to make fire just to see it burn becuase they have nothing better to do. If this decimates my ""Rep"" then so be it because really at the end of the day who is helping me my friends are all the critics that have something very smart to say ... hmm and again i dont support what my friends do but im not god to change there minds i cant stop a jp from saying JPONRY or a NA from being greedy evrybody is diffrent i dont push them aside vecause of what they do friends are friends ! if you ever have a loyal friendship you would know what i mean! and for sixtail he seem to have a lot of opinions on almost evrything i see hes bit@hing evrywhere what makes you so perfect to put others in the spot light im sure youre no saint!! so umm ya i have the decensy to step out and admit what i did im not here to beg all of lakshmi to forgive me for i did nothing wrong in my eyes im not helping nobody make profit and just like mag put it "wash my hand ill wash youre" so if you very offended because i have chinese RMT friends then well by all means hate me lol if not keep a open mind and see it in my eyes if nobody else is on and you camps nm for hours at end and youre RMT friends are on and ask nothing in return woudent you say sure thank you for the help or i guess yorue to perfect >.> you judge me w/o knowing me six you should shut youre mouth and think about the dumb bs you say instead of talking about me like you know me.!
#16 Mar 06 2006 at 5:57 PM Rating: Default
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Yeah Barry, I know but if you owe the guy a favor (one you voiced of course) then you need to make good on your word as it will not only reflect who you are in the game, but in real life.. if you helped an RMT cause you owed him a favor and repaid it, i would have more respect for you than if you turned your back on him...

By turning your back you show what you have to offer to a friendship that.. if in the servers eyes what you are doing is wrong that you would turn your back when this guy was there as a friend when the server was not, before you were known or <insert bond here>. I understand that they RMT and what they do is low.. and you shouldnt help them if you can avoid it.. but a debt is still a debt.

By helping them you are showing that regardless of the consequence you make good on your debts and words.. that is someone id want going on a mission with me anyday rather than the ones who say "im here to the end" and after they get what they want/need they warp/dc/make excuse and log.

Way i see it was they helped him get (joy?.. with it being char id guess?) so he helped them get an item they cant sell?.. (not sure what said item is, not into gots yet, {75 brd not one god/hnm fight sad huh?})

So i hate to say it but in my eyes (i know no one, or few will agree...) but i think what syn did was in the best... if he continued to help them now that his debt was paid then it would be an issue.


*Sorry ****** grammar in a hurry*
#17 Mar 06 2006 at 6:08 PM Rating: Default
JPONRY is an RMT ls! Don't trust them! They sell gil!
















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#18 Mar 06 2006 at 6:13 PM Rating: Good
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RE item -> IGE -> $65

All Right!
#19 Mar 06 2006 at 9:40 PM Rating: Good
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Edit: Obviously to many people lack common reading skills and took alot of this post out of context. Read post 51.

Edited, Fri Mar 24 00:17:53 2006 by Scuzzlebuns
#20 Mar 06 2006 at 11:38 PM Rating: Good
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First off, it is baseless accusations like this one that cause such drama over RMTs. Yes, Synikal was in league with the RMT while wearing a Harbingers pearl, but if a moment had been taken, could Atii not have been checked as well to verify whether he/she was in Harbingers? That would have been somewhat conclusive evidence to infer that Harbingers may have had dealings with RMT. But one person wearing a pearl while fighting with RMT is hardly enough to even think let alone spout on allakhazam forums that this LS caters to RMTs. As well, one should already know enough by now that even alluding to someone or an LS being with RMT is a very damaging accusation that would affect party invites and even friendships. Next time, do some research before coming to us saying an LS is RMT.

Second, I can attest to the generosity and helpfulness of people in the Harbingers LS. If it weren't for Panday, I would have been stuck trying to solicit help for a magick skull in Valkurm Dunes. As well, several of the LS members helped me numerous times in AF. As for Synikal, I have known him to be a pretty good guy. But I will admit that this has shaken my image of him, not only with the picture of him partying with RMT, but as well one of his characters being Deviant, who I cannot stand. He may be an RMT, but lest we forget, one does not comprise all.

And as for Darkmagus's post, if you help an RMT, you help their business. If I'm going to get an RMT Byakko's Haidate, I am in effect, contributing to their cause and strengthening them. If I am to strenghten them, I am puting more gil into his pocket which translates to money for IGE.
#21 Mar 07 2006 at 8:00 AM Rating: Good
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Harbingers isn't RMT ._. I'm in it and its full of nice people who help each other out ^.^
As for Synikal, I can't say. I haven't seen him/ talked to him on our ls in while o.O
But our ls doesn't like/help/condone RMTs. :3
#22 Mar 07 2006 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
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TheRealLeroi wrote:
And as for Darkmagus's post, if you help an RMT, you help their business. If I'm going to get an RMT Byakko's Haidate, I am in effect, contributing to their cause and strengthening them. If I am to strenghten them, I am puting more gil into his pocket which translates to money for IGE.


Someone gets it. Synikal can hide behind whatever claims of friendship and whatnot he likes, but the point is when you help RMT, you give them the power to pull in more gil and cause even more damage. So yeah I'd like to say I know you Synikal. Your the same type of moron Kronoz is. But hey, your RMT buddies will be around in one fashion or the other till they turn the servers off. So take heart.
#23 Mar 07 2006 at 8:17 AM Rating: Good
Well as far as I can tell this subject about Harbingers being an RMT LS is over in my mind as he is no longer a member of our LS.

It may be his friend but he was wearing our pearl and I will never allow this LS to be tarnished like that because the game has been hurt alot over the years buy RMTs and I personally would like to see all RMTs put into a little room and beaten by a rubber hose but hey thats me :)

So if we can please let this subject be put behind us I would be gratful, and thak you all that helped defend our wonderful LS :)
#24 Mar 07 2006 at 10:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Indeed. His name has been noted in the server RMT list and I again give you props for quickly dealing with this in a timely fashion.
#25 Mar 07 2006 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
TheRealLeroi:
And as for Darkmagus's post, if you help an RMT, you help their business. If I'm going to get an RMT Byakko's Haidate, I am in effect, contributing to their cause and strengthening them. If I am to strenghten them, I am puting more gil into his pocket which translates to money for IGE.


Ok Im not trying to be an ***, but its Magnus (there is a magus on Lakshmi i think and i would hate for people to think im him.)

Ok i know that helping them is bad and in any other situation id agree but with them already being his friend and they helped him when he didnt have help he owed them regardless.

I understand that with this item he may farm more and faster but you cant always say that without syn's help he wouldnt have gotten it... most the jobs RMT level is thf so it would only have been a matter of what a few days?...

Besides Gil Sellers arent ruining the game, the buyers are.. if the market is there, there will always be sellers, but without sellers people will start the job to meet the market. Sadly gil sellers wont go anywhere as long as people are willing to buy.

So, from what i know of syn he doesnt seem like a bad guy, honestly he could have lied and no one would have known. so he knows what he did was wrong but just couldnt turn his back.

I do not! want people to go out and start helping RMT, just cause they are your friends.. but in this case syn could have said "oh i didnt know he was RMT, ive known him since the begining and never knew". but at as long as he was paying back this one! debt and not seen with them more, than i dont see why he should be crucified, they are RMT but they did help him (time they could have been farming gil)

Like the saying says "Forgive and Forget" I hate to see someone fry for something so grey. (world cant always be black and white)

Edited, Tue Mar 7 11:42:30 2006 by DarknightMagnus

Edited, Tue Mar 7 11:44:38 2006 by DarknightMagnus
#26 Mar 07 2006 at 1:45 PM Rating: Default
WoW ok first of all Synikal is notDEVIANT get the bs out of here asap i just met deviant a couple of days ago and i want to see him tell anybody thats hes me so that is str.8 up bs i am synikal i dont hav eany mules but synikall and playboi! deviant is a complete other person from me so DO NOT COMPARE me to deviant cuz thats not me

second of all why is this anybodys ******* problem you ppl are not my dad or mom or anytyhing of mine not even ppl that know me so why are you on my case.this affected none of you not even the person who started this thread.!!! if you ppl are so dam bored go read a book orsomething dont start probs with my name in it and for half of the ppl posting here Scuzzle i do not know you and again im not deviant so get the str.8! i havent lied to this point im not gonna start now again i dont care what other ppl think and nor is it gonna change that i have friends that do whats wrong thats there problem not mine. i helped them 1 time its over why is this thread still going.. are you ppl that bored!

Im out of harbingers so why does that name keep popping up! if you gonna flame me for something you have no say or anything to do with youre and idiot!!!! you ARE NOT MY FATHER to tell my what i can do i pay the bill for this game just like you do so let me do w/e i want and stop caring what i do seriously this is getting to me now >:] so go on with youre lifes and stop using this stupid inccident as youre daily lets flame somebody cuz im bored! IM NOT DEVIANT i accept what i did it was wrong i finished helping and thats final im on with my life youi hsoiuld move on 2 and sixtail again i dont know you so dont say you know me !!! nor i want to get to know you i think youre an idiot for having an opinion on evrything youre nobody special nothing diffrent then me i see youre name EVRYWHERE flaming some other person is that all you do is look for ppl to flame evryday !! youre NOT perfect so stop flaming others you seem to have something bad to say about everybody what makes you such a saint to say something supid about somebody you dont even know!!!!

This thread shoud die asap ppl gotta move on with there lifes so drop the bs!
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