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#1 Aug 27 2005 at 11:40 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, so the two runs didn't go that well. We had a near full turnout on the Friday night (12/12), but on the Saturday night we managed to just get a party together to take up to Dem (6/18).

So here we are, organising this again...



Run Information:
Check with the Promyvion 101 section at the bottom of this post for information regarding this mission. Even though you might already know about it, it's good just to check over it incase there's something that you didn't know.

Only look at the information below that relates to you (otherwise the time zones will mess with your head). If something happens or not enough people, date will be put forward a week. This will change by Thursday. If no change by then, everything is green to go.
 
   First Run: Europe + Asia 
   Saturday 3rd September, GMT 10:00, JST 19:00, AEST 20:00 
 
   Second Run: North America 
   Saturday 3rd September, GMT 00:00, PST 17:00, CST 19:00

Please have Anima's pre-farmed. If possible please have all three Anima's synthed, with the additional three Rare/Ex items, so that we can go back after each Promyvion and get a new batch. If you need help farming Anima's I will be out farming them during the following times:
 
   Farming Run: Europe + Asia 
   Friday 2nd September, GMT 10:00, JST 19:00, AEST 20:00 
 
   Farming Run: North America 
   Friday 2nd September, GMT 00:00, PST 17:00, CST 19:00

Send a tell if you want to come out, I will be starting at Dem to farm, and will be there for a few hours (so don't worry about the start time).

Make sure that you have your memories cleared before the event, even though it's quick and easy to do at the time of the event, it just saves alot of time and running around. We are doing Dem first, so if you open your mind in that area it would be a great help.

Call for Help: If anyone out there that has finished Promyvions with a high WHM (R2 or better) and wants to help, would be ok to come up with us to aid in raises if the last party wipes? Additionally if the party format that is last to go through fails on the first attempt, we should nominate a rescue party to go up after them to replace members and regroup. We will see what happens in regards to this plan on the day.



The List:
Schultz (BLM/WHM, WHM/BLM, BST/NIN) or Zangief (RNG/WAR) EU[/yellow">red]NA, EU[/yellow
Sasukekun (PLD/WAR, WAR/NIN) red]NA[/red
Talya (PLD/WAR, RDM/BLM, RDM/WHM) red]NA[/red
Lennie (WAR/NIN)
Neejee (BST/WHM)
Yul (WHM/BLM, BST/WHM) yellow]EU[/yellow
Crimsonshadow (RNG/NIN) red]NA[/red
Lathia (RNG/NIN, NIN/WAR) red]NA[/red
Dalziel (???/???) yellow]EU[/yellow



[yellow]Parties NA
Schultz (BLM/WHM, WHM/BLM, BST/NIN) or Zangief (RNG/WAR) EU[/yellow">red]NA, EU[/yellow
Sasukekun (PLD/WAR, WAR/NIN) red]NA[/red
Talya (PLD/WAR, RDM/BLM, RDM/WHM) red]NA[/red
Crimsonshadow (RNG/NIN) red]NA[/red
Lathia (RNG/NIN, NIN/WAR) red]NA[/red
Tsuzume (NIN/WAR, WAR/NIN)EU[/yellow">red]NA, EU[/yellow



[yellow]Parties EU
Schultz (BLM/WHM, WHM/BLM, BST/NIN) or Zangief (RNG/WAR) EU[/yellow">red]NA, EU[/yellow
Dalziel (???/???) yellow]EU[/yellow
Yul (WHM/BLM, BST/WHM)
Tsuzume (NIN/WAR, WAR/NIN)EU[/yellow">red]NA, EU[/yellow



[yellow]Notes:
I don't wish to sound like an evil over-zealous dictator, but please if you are going to nominate yourself to come along, check with LS and RL sources to make sure that the time stated will be free. We understand that sometimes things spring up out of the blue, but if you decide not to show up without letting anyone know, you will be letting down everyone. So if you have a change of mind, please say so before the due date.

Upon ascent (technically the promyvion is flat but we won't take that into account), single form lines. If you grab aggro, don't worry, run with the line to the nearest open area. Don't stop. Stopping causes blockages which can cause to more aggro if people have to break formation to get around you. Deal with aggro in an open space free of any other possible links.

If everything is looking bad, WHM exit the BCNM so that you can raise when the party is removed from the field. Any other /WHM that is in the party with Raise capabilities remove yourself as well. If possible members bring out Reraise and Warp scrolls, we don't want anyone left out there and have to ghetto warp back.

Summoner's using Astral Flow. If possible the tank or near by Melee uses Hysteroanima or Terroanima and Provoke. Keep that bug in one spot. If it moves Astral Flow will miss and there goes a huge chunk of damage. So if the Summoners about to Astral Flow, everyone that can get hate move in close to it to minimise any random hate bouncing that might occur.



Promyvion 101:
Opening the Missions - To get to the point where you can enter the Promyvions you need to have completed a few different mini-missions, some of which you have probably already done. Zone into Lower Delkfutt's Tower, and you will get a nice cut scene introducing you to the Promathia story line. After that head to Upper Jeuno, where when you zone in you will see another cut scene. After that head to the infirmary and talk to Monberaux where you will get yet another cut scene. Goto Ru'Lude Gardens and talk to Pherimociel in the Guards quarters. Talk to the other guards there then go up to the doorway to the audience chamber and talk to Rainhard and High Wind. They will speak of Alchemists, so go to the back of Ru'Lude Gardens to the Duke's House and talk to Harith (who will just mumble stuff about emptiness etc.. this is normal). Now head off to the Crags and examine the shattered crystals. If you can enter the Promyvion/Hall of Transference then you have successfully opened the quest up to where you need to be.

Anima - Some say that they are not that important during the fights, and other say that it's essential. It really does depend on your party setup though, if you can get through without using one, congratulations. But there's times when using one even though you didn't have to, will help alot.

You obtain Anima's by collecting Rare/Ex items from the Promyvions: Recollection of Fear, Recollection of Guilt, Recollection of Pain. You then take these to Harith and for an additional 2000 gil he will Synth them into the following.

Recollection of Pain: Hysteroanima
Recollection of Guilt: Terroanima
Recollection of Fear: Psychoanima

Hysteroanima - When used this will cause the Boss' Special Attacks to be interrupted. Very good to use at times when you know the mob will be using nasty TP attacks.
Terroanima - This Anima causes the Boss to run like a idiot. When this is used all ranged jobs (RNG, BLM etc) start attacking the mob as none of the standard melee will be able to touch it.
Psychoanima - Causes the Boss to be intimidated by the user.

Anima's last up to 20 seconds after using, and only one can be used at a time so someone needs to keep track of timing them if you are going to use them side by side. When throwing Anima's you have to be up close to the Boss or it will miss.

Bosses
Don't worry I will summarize the bosses at the bottom of this part (items needed, special attacks etc), this is just overviews of tactics and what the bosses will do in the fights. If you've done the battle and have additional information please post it and I will update this thread.

Promyvion - Dem: Progenerator - This boss has High Defence but Low Attack (except for the HP Drain attack). Around 60% this boss will start producing Offspring (Note: Once Boss is dead, Offspring will despawn). RNG's should assist in taking these guys out as they will cause nothing but problems for the main melee and mages. They are not that hard, and can usually go down with a TP attack. At <25% I've noticed that it only uses it's HP Drain attack for TP, this causes alot of problems (and has been the cause of a few wipes I've been in). At this stage using Hysteroanima might be a very good option.
Promyvion - Holla: Wreaker - This boss is one of the nastiest with it's AoE TP attacks. It's TP attack gives the status effects: Sleep, Curse and Blind so it's a good idea for all melee to have Poison Potions and to have Holy Waters on them to remove curse. It also has a TP attack that it uses on low HP called Trinary Tap, where it will remove 3 buffs. Might be a good idea for a /WHM to put up some bar-element-ra spells so that it doesn't absorb everything as if it hits no more buffs it will start eating HP. These TP attacks can be stopped by using Hysteroanima.
Promyvion - Mea: Delver - Has to be the most hated of the bosses, but only because of it's TP attacks. Impalement is reported to be like Throat Stab, reducing your HP down to next to death. Carousel is a standard AoE attack. Promyvion Brume is the bad one, AoE, Poison effect and Hate Reset. Again best bet is to use Hysteroanima's to reduce it's ability to use TP attacks and if it does get off Impalement have one of the other melee's provoke off if they can and Stun it somehow, while the tank Hi-Potions (or who ever got hit by it).

Progenerator - Strong Defence
Wreaker - Poison Potions, Holy Water
Delver - Antidote, Hi Potion

I haven't made not of them in the details above, but Allakhazam notes them as based on Water and weak to Lightning, but from what people said on the Wreaker and Delver fights, Water did more damage than normal. I've always thought that these mobs were random elements, so it would be hard to say what element they are. I will try to find out more in the days to come.

Edited, Sat Sep 3 02:47:29 2005 by Argonaut
#2 Aug 27 2005 at 11:51 PM Rating: Decent
count me in! pld/war or war/nin!
#3 Aug 28 2005 at 6:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I have WHM ready as of now... If you need I can level my SMN (20 at the moment) but for now, just count me as whm.
#4 Aug 28 2005 at 6:47 AM Rating: Good
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Hey Schultz. You know I'm there.
Pld/War or Rdm/Blm-Whm, whichever is needed.

I should also be able to come friday to help farm animas. I'll give you a more definite answer on this as the week moves on.

Edit: Oh, 9p EST is my usual log on time. Sometimes as early as 8:30, but I say 9 to be safe. Got to get the kids off to bed and such.

Edited, Sun Aug 28 08:00:55 2005 by chluke
#5 Aug 28 2005 at 7:06 AM Rating: Good
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Still working on the original post with directions for those that have never been. I'm not going to nail this down to an alliance, if we have 30+ people wanting to come then 30+ people can come. What is crutial is that we have teams that work and teams of 6.

One thing that I want to see (and many might not like this) is the weakest teams go first. This means if they wipe, they have someone outside that can raise and help by replacing with others where they need. This will help with everyone getting through successfully.

What happened on the EU run was strange, we thought we were the weakest team, and to be honest I was ready to eat dirt (or mold what ever it is up there) about half way through the battle, but then everything went good and we passed. I was sad to hear the other party which I would have put money on getting through didn't. I don't want that to happen again ; ;
#6 Aug 28 2005 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Count me in!

I will go as war/nin and I might have my smn to 30 by then.
#7 Aug 28 2005 at 12:30 PM Rating: Good
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Please, please, PLEASE!

For the love of God, please sign me up -.-;;

No offense to Greenith, but the "Run"(If you could even call it that) we did last Saturday, was a complete and utter failure. Not only did most of the people on the list not show up, but the organization of the people who DID show up was a joke. We ended up with 2 odd parties when it came time for the Dem-Boss. The first party won, while the second party(That I was in >.<;;) lost to it with about 10% of its HP left.

Shortly after we lost, my entire party HPed and left after I was mid-raise, including the BLM, leaving me there...Shortly after I came to the realization that I wouldn't be leaving in a peaceful manner, so I went outside and Death-Warped...

I lost {Leave}, lvl 35, and food/Anima/Jug-Pet money...

Sorry for the rant, but It was a very disapointing morning for me.

EDIT: Sorry, In all my frustration I forgot to actually stick to the topic (My bad ^.^); I would love to go, and my availablity is set. I can go as BST/whm, or BLM/whm.

I will also look into my availability for helping you farm Anima.

o(-.-)=o )))) {Chi Blast} Out...

EDIT2.0: I read this again, and it kinda' looked like I was bashing 'Greenith's' organizational skills. Greenith, man, you set up a great run, and you were a great leader. In the end, it was an overall lack of luck, and rude people not showing up. Sorry if my post kinda' makes you look bad, it's not my intent.

Edited, Sun Aug 28 13:39:54 2005 by WarlockInRed

Edited, Sun Aug 28 13:42:34 2005 by WarlockInRed
#8 Aug 28 2005 at 4:23 PM Rating: Good
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Neejee: being in the party that went through before you guys, I was the RNG, it was my first time playing RNG post patch, I made a heap of mistakes, and I was ready for another wipe (so familiar to me on this boss). We almost did, Yul messed up something (I think it was DS Curaga), then she ate a reraise scroll and Bene'd saving up. She died reraised and used Anima and that's when everything started going good.

As I said before, I thought your setup was going to be a success 100% after seeing how we fumbled through it. I'm not blaming any organiser for the failure of any of the events, I know how hard it is to organise these thing (one reason why I hate being a leader, but someone has to do it), but if everyone follows set procedures then it should go smooth.

I think the thing with Greenith's run was the fact that people were still farming Anima's and hadn't cleared their memory, not Greenith's fault, but not anyone elses really. This is why I'm asking everyone to have their memory wiped and Anima pre farmed to the event. The times put down is when we organise the parties, there's 30 mins before we set off.

Oh and also nominate the run that you are going on since there's 2 going. Forgot to say that ; ;
#9 Aug 28 2005 at 7:45 PM Rating: Good
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Quote:
Oh and also nominate the run that you are going on since there's 2 going. Forgot to say that ; ;



Sorry, I forgot that part in my last post. I'm in for NA runs.
#10 Aug 28 2005 at 8:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Im going to have to pull out, actually >.< Other things have come up, sorry :( I wish I could make it though, good luck to you guys when you go.
#11 Aug 28 2005 at 8:56 PM Rating: Good
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Krelian: no problem, if this week goes well, might see about running these every month or so. I don't know what it is about that place but I love getting up there. I want to take an exp party up there some time ^^

Imagine that, can't level because nobody will invite a DRG, bring it to Promy parties.. If we could find a sweet safe spot up there where we could pull mobs all night and just chain (even though it would be crappy exp), it would be so fun.

*ahem*

I know some have said in other threads that they are coming but I just want to get some sort of official confirmation here:

From LS (and will ask during the week):
Greenith
Tsuzume
Dalziel
Jonnara

Others:
Crimsonshadow

When we get a few more people I will start putting everyone into faux-groups just to see what jobs we are missing. These groups will probably change around on the day, so please don't think that what I've put down is set in stone, as I said it's just a guide to see what else we need.

Edited, Sun Aug 28 22:07:31 2005 by Argonaut
#12 Aug 28 2005 at 10:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I have to agree, that the run on Saturday Night didn`t go as planned, i to thought that the 2nd pt would surely win, but these are hard bosses, so anythign can happen. I was pretty impressed how we went in the Dem boss. I to made some mistakes, since i was a bst/whm, i was trying to heal people, but had a hard time doing it, since not everyone was macroed in. Next time i will add more macros for the healer etc.
Also as a leader, i know i have much to improve, and every party im leader of, i learn from :).

How did the run go on Sunday morning?
#13 Aug 28 2005 at 11:38 PM Rating: Good
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Results of Sunday Morning (AU time)

Basically we waited around, I sent of a few tells to those I could see on the list that were online, and after about an hour there was only 5 of us. We managed to find a SMN and decided to head off.

Basically the way up to the spire was uneventful, we had a few aggro's but we took care of them easily (even one on Lv4). It was funny I was leading most of the way, I'd run past things (holding my breath) thinking "Oh please don't be sound aggro" as we were that close. It seemed like the big ones are sight (truesight) aggro only.

Anyhow after the aggro on Lv4, we just ran for zone, I think there was an additional aggro near zone, but only one and that didn't even give us much grief while zoning. We tried Dem twice, Yul was able to get out the first time, and only the SMN got out the 2nd. Took it down to 10% (that's when it started spamming the HP Drain attack) and we kept it at 10% for a min or two. We just weren't doing enough damage.

We nearly had it the first time but Astral Flow missed due to the mob moving.. we would have had it >_< oh well.. it actually was heaps of fun.
#14 Aug 30 2005 at 9:55 AM Rating: Good
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shameless bump.
#15 Aug 30 2005 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah I've just been editing the last post. They need moderators here I swear, so they can sticky important event topics like this.
#16 Aug 30 2005 at 10:16 PM Rating: Decent
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congrads, on your 1000 post :) Argonaut


As with Saturday, would you be able to put me as a standby reserve, since im still not sure whats happening on saturday night, but if im on, and you are short a couple of pt memmers, i would be glad to help. i also got 2 animas now too.

by the way Neejee, its all cool my bst friend :)
#17 Aug 31 2005 at 12:04 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah I was going to save it for a special post, luckily I got it in before that other thread I replied to.

Anyhow, I'll also be doing a search around the time to try and pick up additional help. One thing that might happen though is if it takes to long we might as well retire and do the others the next weekend. We'll look into that after we finish one successfully.
#18 Sep 01 2005 at 5:28 PM Rating: Good
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Just updated with the parties for each run (or should I say parts of a party). We'll see how things go for getting people before hand. I will start shouts an hour beforehand to see if I can pick up extra people that want to come.

I still have to ask 2 more people from my LS if they are coming or not.

There's a few people I left off the party lists, as I still havn't heard which time they would prefer to play in.
#19 Sep 01 2005 at 6:15 PM Rating: Decent
I'd like to join. I live in PST and usually free on Saturdays.
I can come as a BLM/WHM a WHM/SMN a WAR/NIN or a PLD/WAR. Choose.
#20 Sep 02 2005 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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I should be able to help farm animas tonight, though I may be a tad later than my normal 9p EST. I'll look you up when I get on and see if you still need me.

I'll also speak with a few friends of mine tonight who may be willing to join us.
#21 Sep 03 2005 at 7:01 AM Rating: Good
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Curse you SE. They really need to fix the "Boot a player after their Content ID's get nailed" actions. So there we were, past the first MR, on our way up and WAR/NIN #1 drops. Didn't hear anything from him. So we wait around and decide, yeah we'll try it with 5. We get to the next MR and BAM! after we kill the MR and up to level 3 other WAR/NIN drops. He called me to say that his account had been "billed" from what SE said, but he couldn't log back on.

The feeling I got with this party was a good one. If I was to put money on it, I would have placed a hefty 1mil on us actually doing it without a problem. Curse you SE, Curse you. Make the Boot player option happen 24 hours after billing and give them a warning to when they will be booted. Or if they log back in within the 24hrs it boots them, not while they are in the middle of doing something.
#22 Sep 03 2005 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
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that 2nd nin was me.

what happen was they didnt actually bill me. this morning when i logged i got a noticing "you have been billed for this month would you like to see log /yes? /no?" i didnt check it i never do. anyway later that night during promy dem i got booted and it said my my account was suspended due to over due fees etc...
im thinking if they send me that you have been billed msg they must have billed me i check my ccard and money wasnt taken. anyway they didnt even bill my card they just booted me /fume very angry right now
#23 Sep 03 2005 at 12:07 PM Rating: Good
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Schultz...

What do you think as a party set up for Dem at least as this...

Sasukekun & Tsuzume War/Nin - Duel Tanks
Lathia & Crimsonshadow Rng/Nin - Better to keep off spawns & good DD
You - Blm/Whm for nuking & back up heal
Me - Rdm/Whm for healing

My successful (and rather easy) run at Dem was similar.
2 War/Nin
1 Rng/Nin
1 Smn/whm
1 Drk/War
1 Rdm/Whm

The Smn did not 2 hour, and we killed it quickly enough that I only used 1 yag drink for the fight. I'm not suggesting this other setup would work exactly the same, but I think that it may give us the fire power to kill it fast enough for it not to do too much damage. The downside is less healing power, but again, the goal is to kill it quickly and not need as much healing.

Think it over. I'm open to anything.
#24 Sep 04 2005 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
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Ok recap, due to current events (be it hurricanes or SE's broken billing methods), we've moved it forward a week, same bat time, same bat channel. Hopefully we can get some more people this time around.
#25 Sep 08 2005 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
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Bump.

Are we still on for Sat?
#26 Sep 08 2005 at 7:39 PM Rating: Good
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As far as I know yes, unless some freak of nature DDoS' SE over the weekend.... (touch wood)!!!!
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