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Happynewyear- Constantly logging and has raised the price on Elms from 3000 to 4000. There is also a Happynewyear doing the same thing on Siren I believe.

The Magic crew that Argonaut mentioned: I saw the 3 subjob-less lvl 23 Galka WARs in Delkfutt tower this past week. Their names were "Magickong", "Magicsong", and "Magiclong" (I might be a little off, but all their names started with "Magic" and ended with "ong"). Everything about them looks a bit too cookie-cutter for them to be Joe-average-players. It'll be interesting to keep an eye on them, so see if they get turned into DRG/WARs, who are then sent off to farm 24/7.

I've also noticed Dik, Luckly, Lovebaby and Lalol spending an inordinate amount of time farming and mining. They are all lvl 49 and 50 DRG/WARs. It was quite interesting watching them lvl as a party of 4 DRG/WARs. I watched them at around lvl 48 lvling on Soldier Crawlers and Flies in Crawler's Nest. When your party is 4 DRGs and nothing else, I guess you have to pick your mobs carefully and settle for mediocre exp. At the Nest, there was also a Taru mage in /anon mode that was quasi-PLing them. Whenver I do a search for these 4 DRGs, I notice that Toy is in a zone with one of them. Sometimes, he's in Jeuno offereing Teleport services. I'm guessing he's part of their gil farming group.

As far as the Rose* characters, I think there is one that's part of the *envoy gil farming group (i.e. Rosenvoy, Icenvoy, Firenvoy, Forcenvoy, yada yada).

What can we do? There's little we can do to stop their farming efforts without totally ruining our own time in the game. As long as there are gil buyers, there will be gil sellers. Don't buy gil, and convince others not to buy gil.

Update on the Magic* Family.

I saw them on a the ship to Kazham last night and manged to get into a party with them. 3 Galka Wars, with lvl 1-5 subjobs, with a LVL 50 BLM doing PL. Very broken english, seemed like 1 or 2 people were controlling them - mostly using /assist commands.

I didn't really want to xp with them due to the fact of possible Gil Farmers, but it beats no party at all. They are probably around lvl 28+ by now.

What about the Aneue(sp?) pt that was in Ordelles Cave for a month? Last check of PH on Archers Ring showed her selling 7 of the 10 for 560k each, total of 3.3 million. I'm not sure if they fall under the gil farmer tribe but that's insane.


Edited, Tue Sep 14 15:47:38 2004 by Animaeversor

The Aneue party spoken of is 6 player accounts that can be found camping Stroper Chyme in Ordelle's Cave pretty much 24/7. The names of the others are something like Bshilei, Ktiele, Shileia, Smallbaby and Yunaa. Ever since I noticed this group camping Chyme, the price of Archer's Rings has gone up from 420k to over 550k. If there was any doubt that these accounts were gil farmers, as opposed to average players taking time to farm, it was erased by the following observations:
1. None of them wore linkpearls. All 6 players are in their 50s, and none of them belong to a linkshell? Surely, inventory space shouldn't be the issue (it's not like Archer's Ring drops all the time). And as boring as it is to camp anything for any amount of time, if they did belong to a linkshell, you'd think at least *one* of them would be using one.
2. Most of them wore crappy gear. For a group that's making a killing on Archer's Rings, you'd think they'd be able to afford good stuff. Instead, you'll find gear like Onyx Earrings.

Organized gil farmers, doing their stuff 24/7, can lead to making it harder on regular players due to the following:
- If the gil farmer camps an NM, or even a regular mob that has a high price drop (e.g. Stroper Chyme or Spook), this makes it more difficult for regular players to engage in the same activity, to the point where those options are eliminated as possible ways to earn gil.
- If the gil farmers exercise monopolistic control over a certain drop, players are forced to pay a higher price on that item. Archer's Ring is a perfect example. Since one gil farming group dominates the supply of Archer's Rings, they exercise significant market power over the price of Archer's Rings (which also affects the price of Snipers Rings).
- If the gil farmers can't control the market on a specific item, they may very well undercut the market. There are at least 3 gil farming groups that use mining as their way of raising gil. If they continue this practice 24/7, there will be more ore of all sorts on the market than normal, causing the price of ores to drop. This is good for players who need these ores for synthing. But this hurts players who are relying on occasional mining to raise gil.

I am just really sick of seeing Gil Farmers just about anywhere I go in the game. Whenever I farm/mine/fish/etc, I see players are obiously just there to make gil. And when I go to lvl, I see even more gil farming accounts being created.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=46&mid=1094835417786446205&num=1


This link is to the thread about hunting down these gilfarmers.

Please read also if this topic interests you.



Dragonsoul

The problem is not with farming for gil. The problem is doing nothing else in the game but making money to sell to a company as your RL job. This hurts ALL people out there in your lower lvls because everytime you go somewhere there is that same person farming. And for higher lvls, theres crafting and honestly all sorts of other ways to make money. When you were a new player what would it have been like to not make the money because someone was there killing stuff 24/7. Especially considering you spent that money on your crafting, gardening etc..

Last rant on a serious topic for me: What about all the Europe and maybe sometime soon Australia and New Zealand players... what will happen when they start playing? imagine if you will.


Dragonsoul

Edited, Tue Sep 14 19:35:51 2004 by CelestialChaos

There are a lot of new ones, any idea who they are anymore?

I see someone cast Raise on this thread.

They did cast raise.... lol.