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So I met a few people while exping tonight...
good players, awesome attitudes. You know, the old "where in the hell have you decent folks been hiding" kinda group.
anyway, I noticed they were all in the same LS, it's a small group of friends.
I get the forum adress from the them, and what is the first thing I find?
Quite possibly the funniest thing I have ever witnessed.

Be warned: drain bladder and take a deep breath before clicky-clicky action on this one.

http://deleriumls.com/index.php?showtopic=96

Be warned: drain bladder and take a deep breath before clicky-clicky action on this one.

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That was awesome,... i didn't know he had that bad of a rep.....

...Maybe we should start a thread entirely devoted to him.....

I don't quite get where David is worried so much about his rep.
He's infamous on Kujata, up there with Genjo/Dokaka and the RMTs. Hell, for a long time I thought he was an RMT (could be, who really knows for sure?)

This is gold. Now lets see here is my own Davidmelendez story I shout for a tele I start every shout at 5k doesnt matter which tele it is, Dave invites me to party I trade him 5k. He accepts the payment and then just stands there for a long time, I start to get impatient of course and ask what's going on and he refuses to teleport me unless I give him another 5k. Now of course I didnt, I disbanded and bought a bloody teleport ring. I dont tend to blist people often, (unless Im leveling a new job up through the jungles) but he's on there and he's never coming off.

hmm...I dont know exactly why Im typing this up.

I know Dave very well =P he's been in my ls for the past year or so and he's even declared his 'love' for me *eye roll*

I will however try and defend dave somewhat. Dave as far as I know has no access to a computer and unlike the majority of FF11 users, he has no way of looking up info on the game. Dave is very very slow when it comes to a majority of the games mechanics and even slower on internet etiquette.

Dave has a 75 thf but uses his whm to make money with teleports. He has made ls members pay for teles and pay for his other services. When confronted about (because it obviously doesnt go over with the ls when you do this) he is pretty much oblivious to the reasons why him making people pay is wrong.

and ofcourse when confronted about it he'll play a game of 100 questions and try and figure out what he's doing wrong as well.

and if Dave is teleporting he wants 10k a teleport than he's not teleing unless you pay him that amount =P although that price looks a little steep for him...I dont see why he'd demand so much. I honestly dont pay 5k a tele >> ever, for anyone...

Pinky- I've had that happen to me by other people =P I think alot of tele-ers try and go in the order of which they pick up people. The thought of whether or not a person has that tele crystal doesnt quite occur to them. Atleast you got your money back or didnt have to pay again.

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Ive gone on several peacock charm runs with him (with no dropage for me) and Ive never seen him run away with anybodys money before. The way he does it is both selfish and profitable with everybody in the pt.

Ever been on a bcnm run and never get your turn? or you get your turn and you die? or you dont get your drop or a drop worth anything and wasted 60 seals?

Daves way nets you money if you win and its not even your orb (his runs are not for the PCC, its for the PCCs gil)..Or you can look at it the orb holders way and Dave is cashing in on your money. It really depends on if you win or not on what your opinion of it is.

I've never heard the guaranteed orb thing either. How you die in that bcnm I will never know =P concidering dave and his partner do all the work and all the third person has to do is run down a slope with the slowest mob on the planet. He's had people win the bcnm and never open the chest.....imagine how bad those poor losers were kicking Dave because it was obviously his fault and he ripped them off =P

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Now...Dave is a really nice and easy to get along with guy alot of the time. He enjoys helping people with AFs, missions and bcnms and he's very helpful.

But he's also very slow. I dont recommend doing anything with Dave that revolves around money...I dont recommend doing anything really with anybody that revolves around money.

You guys complain and everybody on the server knows of him, so theres no reason why you have to ever be involved with him.

edit: Alexis- Did you tell him that? "If you want to join you have to stop teleing and accept invite" Ive known people who continue to farm, tele, pt and other such stuff until the pt/alliance was fully formed. Maybe Dave thought you'd allow the same.

Edited, Oct 3rd 2006 at 8:46am PDT by Glddaisy

Good for him, lots of people do that, that's not where the problem lies.
The problem lies when he takes a fare, and doesn't deliver the person to the original requested destination, but still charges.



Exactly, therein lies another point.
He doesn't understand why charging his friends to help them out is wrong. That speaks volumes about his character.


It happens more now that people like David and RMTs are teleing. It's pretty much common knowledge that not everyone has a Yhoat or Vahzl crystal. As such, when taxiing multiple fares, either go to the first three crags first, or don't do multi-fare trips.

Only after having an entire LS send him /tells for a long time (long time is relative, however in this case even 1 /tell is too much).



That way is the standard way of doing it, however there is one caveat:
You know how many orbs are going in. If there are 3 orbs going in, and everyone bails after the first one, then there are issues, again, of the strength of character of the other two members.
As well, in the case of Ret, Dave had said 'if you die, you can have my orb'.
So, now Dave owes 2 orbs to Ret, one for the one he put in, and one being the second orb in the trio of runs that Ret originally joined (to be fair, the third orb should come from the third person who was 'helping' Dave).


I'm not the one who had issue with him in regards to a mission/quest. I was simply responding to Tinkky's attempt to clear Dave's name.


You said yourself in your post, (I'm paraphrasing here), that you wouldn't trust Dave to help with anything, due to his 'slowness'.
Replace 'slowness' with 'asshatness', i.e. general immaturity, lack of common decency, and lack of respect, and you've about summed up how we feel about him.
It doesn't matter who comes here to his defense, we've made up our minds based on constant, recurring actions on his part.
Until he changes, it's his problem.


Not having 'access' to info on the game isn't what makes someone a bad player. People who don't understand the rules can be taught. Being a bad person makes them a bad player. DavidMeLendez cannot be taught, not for lack of trying. Whether he is socially retarded, or actually mentally disabled is not up for discussion, and frankly I don't care. If it's the latter I feel sorry for him, as it's not something he can do anything about. Most likely, however, the former is the case. That, he can fix (I know, as I used to be very similar to that type of person), but doesn't want to.

I actually said I dont trust him with anything money related =P He's very good at helping with missions, coffers and quests (expecially if you agree to do something ahead of time) but not money.




I think there are many reasons why a person would become a bad player and not all of them have to do with being a bad person >>

I agree that there are alot of things that seem impossible to teach him. I've seen alot of complaints about the way he plays his character in general and how he pts..he's lvling rdm right now and he constantly seeks the linkshells advice for how to play, so I know he's somewhat capable of learning that.

but for social interactions..I just dont think he'll ever understand it. But I dont think he's a bad person. A noob, quite possibly..slow..definately...but as far as I can tell he doesnt do it on purpose =P Not saying that he should be excused from anything he's done. He has good intentions but he's just a bad player.



...yes...he does the PCC bcnm almost religiously..the things got to drop sometime and when it does he sells it. Why is that a bad thing?

Edited, Oct 3rd 2006 at 5:45pm PDT by Glddaisy

Maybe I see this diffrently than most people; but when I shout for a tele and say Im willing to pay 5k for it and you then invite me and take that money you have entered into a verbal contract for the price of that tele. If you think I should pay more for that tele you dont first take my money and then say I should pay more. Its a matter of Ethics it wasnt about the money because at that point I would rather buy a 50k ring I only used once than give him another 5k for a tele. Buisness is buisness perhaps but in the end what he lost was buisness.

well, i know im a bit bias but i think he should have been left in his mother... /shrug


btw fie im taking a mini break for a little grades sliped and my credit card comes soon so yay i figure 2 weeks at most be back then

im sure half the server has storys about this nut case...




well, no sh*t.

not only is he slow he is arrogent and i think he should be in a white padded room.

Why would you say such a thing?

why? because hes a emotionless drone, a friggen pod person. I think i may have seen him on star wars or something idk.

are you the "friends" hes talking about??? you two?

im glad to see you exist and aren’t invisible or blow up dolls. very kool. you must have the patience of a saint. Or have gotten a labotomy or even, your completely brain-dead.

Now i don’t say this brain-dead thing lightly what i mean by this is...

every time i talk to davidmelendez a little part of my cerebellum dies. Sence you are his "friend" i figure you’ve spoken to him a lot thus your brain-dead through association. grats we should report both of you to Merc post haste.


well, i did insult him for being stupid, and golly G i spelt it wrong. I guess im as stupid as davidmelendez. well time to sell off my drg gear and buy a brass sublegar and pt in it!!! or or maybe i should go pull 4 mobs at a time then not understand what I did wrong. OH WAIT NO I GOT IT!!!! I should invite people that shouted for a teleport accept their money then demand more.

/nod {I'm sorry} im ganna go check myself in to the nearest asylum maybe some shock therapy may assist and hey if it doesnt maybe ill just stick my finger in a socket, that sounds like something david would do.


bah my English teachers have been doing it since 97 :P

Edited, Oct 5th 2006 at 8:04pm PDT by ketrel

British people are so queer at times.

Edited, Oct 6th 2006 at 2:59pm PDT by Fidant

I see no reason to Blacklist the people posted on here. I’m not saying the people who posted on this thread are wrong but I would rather give the people the benefit of a doubt then blist them all together.
I noticed on this thread Davidmelendez being brought up quite a bit, I’ve had a chance to Bcnm and teleport with him, I haven’t had any of the problems mentioned. Until he does rip me off and Screw me over I have to say he has been a good player.
I would like to just say one last thing before ending this Post. Please give people a chance before you take what other people write on the Internet as gospel.

I think that very few have actually /blisted someone in game from something they read here. This thread is intended (I believe anyway) to act as an early warning system. Sort of a "Party with this person at your own risk" kind of deal. By all means go ahead and have interactions with people listed here but do so with caution.

sure was



ever given him money/xped with him?



hes not new thats the problem, if a newb were to do this it may possibly be acceptable to some people. (not me stealing is stealing but w/e)



Thats just it though had it been one isolated insodent then it probably could have been negligable im talking about 100+ people this guy has messed with...



because your defending him with out concidering the people he's effected and or hurt

have i won the internets yet?

I don't know the guy, but when the LS member who writes posts to "defend him somewhat" can say nothing more than that he's "not that bad of a person," that he's socially inept, that he's incapable of learning some things, and that he might actually be slow in the clinical sense of the word, I'm not sure I want to.

Can't really blame people for wanting to defend (even halfheartedly) a fellow linkshell member, though. It's certainly no bad reflection on that person's character; speaking on behalf of an LS-mate, particularly one who's not widely known to be crooked or a malicious scammer, is a decent thing to do.

Still, though...weird taste in friends. Not that that's a bad thing, necessarily, just...weird.

Wow, you are a nasty person.

Don't question lylia, you will lose and ignite into flames.

Stop using comma's.

Oh. And you look like an idiot. Dont post anymore; it hasn't been worth reading yet and i am doubting that will change.

@#%^ yea, and you should, be, to, maybe, you should know, or be, ripped off by davidmelendez, befor you can, make any kind of comment to his, charicter.

BTW its not fear, its respect. Most of the time we respect each other here. If your not ganna respect that the regulars have friendship then GTFO[/quote]



First of all if you were ganna be like lylia you'd be nice. But your not and could never be. only one lylia Richardhead and its not you so like i said above






Edited, Oct 8th 2006 at 6:57am PDT by ketrel

Actually, I do understand it quite well, which is why I wrote a post more or less defending Glddaisy/Daus who appeared to be under a dogpile of folks getting on his/her case just for trying to defend his/her LS-mate. I don't think it's right to criticize someone who commits no sin except defending someone they feel is being treated unfairly (whether it really is unfair treatment or not), and I posted about it for that reason alone. It certainly wasn't to get a rate-up, since just about every time I post on the Kujata forum I get rated down anyway--not that it's an issue to me, just noting a fact.

So maybe you and the large chip on your shoulder can just go back to lurking now instead of posting to criticize someone for defending another poster who seemed to be getting treated more harshly than the situation would warrant? That is, unless you want to commit the same breach of civility that people were by piling on Glddaisy/Daus, the same behavior that made me want to post in the first place, in which case you should just feel free--you're the one who's going to look asinine for it, and that certainly won't bother me.

lol... Yes, what i wrote was absolute truth and was not sarcasm. It was not over the top at all. You will actually burst into flames.

@#%^ing irritating little bug, go away. While you are at it, learn some english, grammar, and punctuation skills.

commas, shouln't, be, butchered, in, such, a, horrible, manner, please, stop, with, the, runons.

i like gwen :3 i want to steal.

Dammit, troll! Are you playing the grammer card already? Are you that low on ammo already? You actually made me do something I never do, and that is coming back after saying goodbye.

Now, my use of comma's in the sentence you are referring to is perfectly fine. Open up a book sometimes and see for yourself. But here is what I want you to think about:

Do you think that someone who uses "i" instead of "I" (feeling inferiour perhaps?), forgets to start a sentence with a capital letter, doesn't know that English in the context he is using it should be written with a capital letter E and doesn't seem to know whether it is comma's (#1) or commas (#2) should make any remarks about somebody elses spelling, grammar and punctuation skills?

Damn, you are such a dumbass. No wonder you are afraid of your friend. Now go rate up Gwen so Gwen can rate you up again.

For the second and last time: bye-bye.

See, the ironic thing, Maaia, is that you bothered to post to tell me...what? That I shouldn't have posted? If that was the case, then why did you post? What exactly was the point of implying that I was "despicable" for defending someone who was getting dogpiled (though admittedly not defending his choice of friends)? I'd love to have you explain just why you felt the need to post and criticize; exactly what were you trying to accomplish, anyway?

At any rate, you've already stamped your foot in a fit of pique and declared that you are taking your ball and going home, so I guess I shouldn't expect an answer. But I understand that your "GOODBY 4EVER, losers, I win because I ran away first!" post puts you in an unenviable predicament; on the one hand, you'll look like an obsessive little troll if you return like a dog to its vomit to a thread you've already recused yourself from, but on the other you'll look like a cowardly little ninny if you don't justify why in blazes you posted your garbage in the first place.

Maybe you can flip a coin: heads, you're a troll, tails you're a coward. OKGO! :)

well thats just it...Dave is weird and odd but when I met him it wasnt under "zomg you stole my money" type of situation =P he was a low lvled thf and seemed to be a nice guy. Ive had my fare share of "dave, go away" moments and he aggrivates me alot.

so I have no reason to utterly hate him like a majority of people do. I wanted to share my experience with Dave but apparently its the wrong one to some users on this website. Now it seems like me posting here was probably worse for my reputation than anything else. What a great way to get attention from certain other people in certain other linkshells and am now the butt of many jokes =P.



thank you =P

Edited, Oct 8th 2006 at 6:59pm PDT by Glddaisy