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#1 Apr 02 2007 at 6:02 AM Rating: Sub-Default
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EDIT2: Updated LS Website.

Heya! As the years on FFXI have gone by, I have decided that it is time to quit following people and make a LS. With this responsibility, I needed to clean up how I word things, how I talk to people; and in order to gain respect I must give respect to the ones I want respect from. So after much cleaning up; I believe I am ready to start a shell of my own. Here are the listing of what the LS is about, and the LS site.

The LSs name is called Enigma, a Sky LS based on attempting drama-free Endgame LS. The website is www.ffxienigma.proboards61.com -- Register here for your application.

This LS will be like no other(please don't flame), It will have very strict rules; and more or less less: If fighting occurs non-stop from players..they will be removed. This is a game to have fun, not a game to bicker.

This LS will also be doing Dynamis with the JP leader Ingram. Which runs a very nice smooth LS as well. He is a very good leader, but the times are very odd with those of you who have work in early mornings. ExileForce is also a LS I do Limbus with, and as a sackholder of that LS; I can speak with Showmo if you wish to participate. ^^

If you have any questions or concerns, please reply here or give a PM on my website/here. And to those of you who will post flames(and I know this will occur)You will be ignored and not replied to by me. Please keep this thread as clean as possible, thank you ._.

Also a Thanks to the many LSs I spoke to, giving me advise how to handle money drops and Item drops as well. Kilik being one of those players from FateSealers. Which also got his relic Shield the other day, Grats^^ And thanks to other un-named friends as well. ^^ Take care Ifrit

If you have any questions or concers reguarding anything, PM me or email me at Escashop@yahoo.com

EDIT: The LS's Website is currently under construction, so thank you for your time in waiting for it to be completed. THe Application thread, and Rules thread is currently active upon going to the site.

Edited, Apr 16th 2007 2:04pm by Escaflone
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#2 Apr 02 2007 at 7:21 AM Rating: Default
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im not going to flame but just a hint esca, if they dont have internet on a computer they wont see this post.
#3Escaflone, Posted: Apr 02 2007 at 7:32 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Eh...duh, thanks for hinting that XD lol...I'll reword it, but I'll just notify them when I talk to them in the game. ^^; I been shouting about registering on the website~
#4 Apr 02 2007 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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#5 Apr 10 2007 at 9:57 PM Rating: Default
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Despite the rumors I have heard of Esca, and my encounters with him long time ago; I have heard good things about Enigma. They have not done sky but once yet(When they were new), but the people seem friendly; and Esca seems to have calmed down a bit, and seems to know what he is doing.

Thumbs up to the LS ss far, I'll post my application in there soon, after a week or so. Have things to do before I get into Endgame again. Not messing with HNM tho.
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#6 Apr 16 2007 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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#7 Apr 16 2007 at 9:38 AM Rating: Default
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Esca im not gonna flame you but you trying to fool people you know what your doing up there yes you learned alot from lonn and his group and you have turned for the better . Im gonna leave it at that and i wish you luck
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Hi? That was a flame by the way. Yes, I learned almost all my things from Lonn(Mainly directions where to go). I give credit where it is due. Thanks for the wish of luck, alot of people thought my LS would fail..and grats me when it started to suceed...even people who disliked me. lol

But I object tho about not knowing anything about sky, many leaders from many sky LSs taught me how to beat gods, and do sky-so I thank them o so much on that...otherwise I couldn't start a LS. I have been doing Sky for 2 years; if thats not enough to know strategys/ways to beat things....then ok lol.

BUT now to brag a bit(Sorry my happyness I am just real happy with the LSs ability thus far, specially since most of them are 100% new to sky LOL) We killed our 1st 2 Gods in that LS with only a chainstun stunner and 1 BLM, all the "DD" were NINs(most lvl 70 lol) and PLDs and 2RNG a MNK/WAR, WAR/NIN and 5 RDMs....Only 1 death(our PLD/WAR tank...)..of course that is not only me, but the cooperation of my entire LS, now if we can get some more melee...

I am a little disoriented at times with maps(and NM repops, but educated guess says when to recamp a NM), but other then that, when it comes to killing something. We are Ace at strategy-we know how to adapt well.

On Suzaku We rotated ES Silence and Para(GREAT strategy) and kept the gods silenced/paraed(Procc alot) most of the fight. We haven't wiped to 1 NM for trigger yet(Cept when Ackz basically MPKed us @MG). My LS actually knows how to follow instructions too, they don't get lost(maybe twice a few did only? And those ppl never been to sky before and they got to Ulli/Faust etc real nicely)and the fact they don't fight with each other. I am proud to say for the supposive reject of my server that people call me...my LS has become very good in a very short amount of time.

By the way, I don't do everything my way. I ask the LS if they want to throw out ideas to make it happen for better/or worst. No need to do the same thing over and over. If you do something your way all the time, people might think there are better ways to do something; so I give them the chance to make the LS better. ^^ That way also they don't have their ideas stuck in them, but no one wants to listen.

By the way everyone: The new LS Site is http://www.ffxienigma.proboards61.com if you would like to submit an application. ^^

Edited, Apr 16th 2007 2:09pm by Escaflone

Edited, Apr 18th 2007 12:30pm by Escaflone
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#9 Apr 21 2007 at 9:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I like the idea of silence instead of chainstun... chainstun is actually a bad way to counter sazuka -.-; At the same time ES silence likely wouldn't stick off a BLM and RDM/DRK is more usefull than /blm over all so I don't find it likely most LS will get it to work, none the less its still a good idea.
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#10 Apr 21 2007 at 11:31 PM Rating: Default
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Well, it's better for the WHMs to do so-because WHMs have more MND correct? SIlence is a MND Based spell. AS a modifier MND affects duration/ability to not be resisted when casted on MND based spells(Also known as White magic)

We have the WHMs have a ES SIlence Order. Equip all the MND Gear they have, ES(100% Land)Silence. And we have a good 25~sec Silence. If that does not work the next person does the same thing. If you can rotate this through various mages, you can lock down Suzaku and all other gods(Cept Seiryu) to the point where Stun is not needed, if not at all. ES Para also helps in this way.

RDM can ES+Silence too. Enfeebling Magic and +MND gear along with Wind/Auster's Staff equipped, Silence lasts quite a while; and no needing to cure bomb your chainstunner because of hate. It's quite useful really, I advise anyone to do it. It's very helpful. And less tideous when fighting a God(s).
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#11 Apr 22 2007 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
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lol guess what Condor gets to do on our next Sazuka >_>
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#12 Apr 24 2007 at 1:37 AM Rating: Default
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zomg nigma lawl!!!

lookin good, lookin good man. i look forward to many more gods ^^
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#13 Apr 27 2007 at 5:49 AM Rating: Default
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Good Job on Cerby Esca, ^^
#14 Apr 27 2007 at 6:12 AM Rating: Decent
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@#%^off an die rabbi

that is all
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#15 Apr 27 2007 at 6:20 AM Rating: Default
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Yeah i congrats him and you tell me to die GG.
Grow up !

Edited, Apr 27th 2007 10:20am by Sevenheavens
#16 Apr 28 2007 at 12:01 AM Rating: Default
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Cerby? o.O We didn't do Cerberus. lol I tried soroing him hahaha.(Manaburn btw ;p I wanted to touch it ;;)

Thanks for the Grats tho Rabbi~Reguardless of the arguements between us we've had, least you came here to say grats thinking I did beat em w/my LS ^^
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#17 May 30 2007 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
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You're a hypocrite. You say you are going to begin respecting people? That's a lie. You just called me a "worthless monk" in Caedarva Mire.

That's not respecting anyone. I did nothing to you either.

If you want respect, you need to give it. That's all I'm going to say.
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#18 May 30 2007 at 11:24 AM Rating: Default
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I'll say this then I won't comment. You fail to review the whole deal kid.

I politely said "Should Boost when its up bro, it maximizes your damage, should get yer af hands too" He didnt have any of his AF-he was wearing all lvl 25 gears except his hand to hand and a SH, Crow head too.

He told me to go away I dont need your advice(not so nicely) I told pty to boot his worthless mnk. All you are is stubbern and wasting peoples time. It's your 12$ playing FF, it's our 72$ you're wasting I tried to give nice advise -obviously wasn't wanted. Which leads ot my last part:

But I know I wasn't an @#%^ till you decided to be one. Have a good day. And please dont try to start drama in my thread, thats the last thing we need.

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#19 May 30 2007 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
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First off, if you didn't want any drama then you should have just let the topic die Esca, but since you felt a need to defend yourself, the drama llama will make a visit.

I don't know if you have MNK leveled, but as I'm sure every good MNK on this forum can attest to, boosting whenever it is up will only result in the MNK receiving excessive hate and becoming an MP sponge. This is all speculative though, so let's talk numbers.

With 334 base attack, without food or buffs or anything, and 221 base defense, again no food or buffs, the average damage output on an IT mob in Mire is roughly 42-43. With boost the damage is increased to 45-46. Yes, the extra 2-3 damage every 15 seconds does sound nice, if it were free.

Boost increases a player's attack by 12.5%, while the AF gloves essentially multiply the boost attack enhancement by 1.5x. With the AF gloves on, attack is boosted by 18.75%. If 12.5% adds the minute 2-3 damage, an extra 1-2 damage at the cost of time for gear swapping and possible healer aggravation is hardly worth it.

Finally, it is understood that boost's enmity increase is roughly equal to 1/3 that of provoke. MNKs already have hate issues from intense job abilities, traits, and weapon skills. If boost is used every time it's up, then the delay on normal attacks is interrupted, and hate is gained. While already stealing hate from most tanks, MNKs certainly don't need to be using provoke every 45 seconds.

You said that this "worthless MNK" was wasting the $72 of the party by not boosting every chance he gets. However, it is entirely in the best interest of the party to sacrifice 5-6 damage so that the tank can keep hate and MP will not be wasted.

It's a simple number game, should probably learn to play the algorithms before pretending they don't exist.
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#20 May 30 2007 at 12:19 PM Rating: Default
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They had a PLD tank with a THF to TA+WS, if a PLD can't hold hate off a MNK in exp PT @69? Then something is wrong.

Maybe if you was talking about NIN tank then I would agree, and due to his lack of equips(lvl25..)-I highly doubt his hate gain is going to be so much output that he'll "be a mp sponge". They had a THF too for TA+WS. PLD+THF TA WSing Flash, provoke, PLD buffs TA dancing edge etc...a PLD won't loose hate, less they are a poor PLD in which they should replace the tank. But the Tank was a good tank.

In other words you are right, but you was not there; so you didn't factor in the other numbers there was to make your point valid. In other words, MNK with poorly equipped gears is not going to omgwtfbbq rape hate off a PLD@69 with a TA partner TA WSing him every fight. Until AFists your comment is politely ignored, but dully(sp?) noted.

I made my point, just like you said I should know my number games, you need to please be there next time before you comment on something you lack information on. Thanks.

Edited, May 30th 2007 4:20pm by Escaflone
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#21 May 30 2007 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Despite your entire post being a complete lie (Though I will admit that some of my gear are low levelled - but they do add ATK and other important stats.)

First.

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I'll say this then I won't comment. You fail to review the whole deal kid.


You have commented. Strike one.
I've reviewed the issue. I know what your complaints are. It is how you've expressed your opinion to me that is the problem. Strike two.

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I politely said "Should Boost when its up bro, it maximizes your damage, should get yer af hands too" He didnt have any of his AF-he was wearing all lvl 25 gears except his hand to hand and a SH, Crow head too.


Completely false. You did say something in say about boost being on a 10 second timer. Yes, that is more or less correct. You also mentioned equipping AF hands. I will admit that I do not have them and I probably never will. That is my decision and it's really not as big of a problem as you make it out to be. I've been doing great damage up to now without them. I'm sure I can handle it as I progress too.

Since more of your complaint revolves around my choice in hand gear, I will elaborate further.

I currently use Republic Mittens. They are a level 15 hand gear, HP +3, MP +3, ATK +3 DEF 5. Level 15. I totally agree with you, they are pretty low level and there's better stuff out there to wear. The ideal hand gear to wear at this level would most likely be an O. Kote. However not all of us have 1 million to spare and as such I cannot afford them. Regardless, the +3 attack on my hands do contribute to my attack.

Now then, the rest of this piece of your post attacks the rest of my gear. I'll quote the exact part so you know what I'm talking about.

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He didnt have any of his AF-he was wearing all lvl 25 gears except his hand to hand and a SH, Crow head too.


Again, completely false and another lie. Are you making things up to try and make your argument better?

I will list off everything I currently use while exping.

Race: Hume

Weapon: Feral Fangs
Level: 66
DMG +19, Delay +96
Notes: Probably could upgrade this but haven't had time to browse the AH. Regardless it does pack a nice punch. No pun intended.

Head: Crow Beret
Level: 50
DEF: 15, EVA +4, ENM -7
Notes: Even with this, I still take hate from time to time.

Neck: Chivalrous Chain
Level: 60
DEF: 4, STR +3, ACC +5, Store TP +1
Notes: The ACC boost really helps as well as the extra 1.5 atk :)

Earrings: Spike Earring x2
Level: 55
ATK +5, EVA -5
Notes: That's +10 ATK. That's a ton.

Body: Scorpion Harness
Level: 57
DEF: 40, HP +15, ACC +10, EVA +10
Notes: Enough said, increases ACC by a lot.

Hands: Republic Mittons
Level: 15
DEF: 5, HP +3, MP +3, ATK +3
Notes: We've gone over this already.

Ring 1: Tiger Ring
Level: 59
DEF: 3, AGI +2, ATK +2
Notes: Might need to upgrade this but the ATK+2 is nice.

Ring 2: Assailant's Ring
Level: 42
ATK +5
Notes: Helps with attack.

Back: Amemet mantle +1
Level: 61
DEF: 8, STR +2, ATK +15, RATK +15
Notes: I love this thing. It helps with attack so much.

Waist: Life belt
Level: 48
ACC +10
Notes: While a brown belt would be better, I do prefer the accuracy boost.

Legs: Bastokan Subligar
Level: 25
DEF: 12, VIT +1, ATK +3, RATK +3
Notes: Yes, it is a level 25 piece of gear. I realize this. But the boosts from it are great and as far as I know there's not much else that's better out there. Also, it's fun to talk about my panties.

Feet: Windurstian kyahan
Level: 25
DEF: 5, ATK +3, RATK +3
Notes: Yep, another level 25 piece of gear. Again, it helps with attack and I do not think there is anything better that is worth me spending my money on just yet. However like the legs, I haven't been able to check the AH in a few levels. I switch these out for my AF legs when I get hate on occasion.

From my gear alone, that is an additional 33ish attack or so. That's a lot. So before judging my gear based on level alone, take a look at the stats themselves.

And if you want proof, here's a screen shot of my equipment.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Szaan/Gear_NoFood.png

And here's a shot of my attack with food in case you were interested. That is without boost or any other job ability:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Szaan/Gear_WithFood.png

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He told me to go away I dont need your advice(not so nicely) I told pty to boot his worthless mnk. All you are is stubbern and wasting peoples time. It's your 12$ playing FF, it's our 72$ you're wasting I tried to give nice advise -obviously wasn't wanted.


Oh how I wish I was on PC when you had said all of the REAL things you said instead of these lies. You know that through all the things you said about me and my worthlessness I never spoke to you once. Not even one time. It's amazing how I can respond to someone when I didn't type a thing to you. Again you are creating "quotes" that were said during our "discussion". Did you talk to yourself in your head?

I will admit though, I did speak to you after you initated a conversation after my inital post in this thread. The words exchanged were not kind. I believe you threatened to ruin my reputation. Of course, that is how I put it and I said the same to you.

Regardless, this a he said she said thing. If I were on my PC at the time I could have posted everything you REALLY said. Ah, but if only we could turn back time.

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Which leads ot my last part:

But I know I wasn't an @#%^ till you decided to be one. Have a good day. And please dont try to start drama in my thread, thats the last thing we need.


I respect your opinion if it is given in a fashion that does not seem "pushy". It's not what you said that really bothers me. It's how you said it. And the comment as you left was ridiculous. You simply said "worthless monk" and left. That, to me, is quite disrespectful.

And even through that comment, I said nothing to you. However you seem to think I did. I'd like to know where you came up with that?

I have given you a thorough explanation to all of your complaints. I'm not going to act childish and say I won't respond because I will as long as you continue spewing out bold face lies.
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#22 May 30 2007 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
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#23 May 30 2007 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
here a hint for you
atleast upgrade to Combat Caster's mitts lvl 40 +5 att it cheap but atleast better than what you got on.get either woodsman or/and sniper rings on so you can wear a brown belt. as for feet lol um try looking up kung fu shoes lvl 51 or wulong shoes lvl 66 (please do not post why look the info up for yourself). Do not EVER go to the monk forums and ask what they think about your gear(it will be just to brutal to watch). Well hope you like the few hints i gave i would say more but i dont have all day
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To the MNK: For someone being so poor as to not afford Okotes, you seemingly have SH...Mantle+1...etc...

I don't know why people are as stupid as to think they need to buy everything they want and/or need...keep reading...

Okotes are now Rare/ex, you do not need to buy them. If you want to buy something, buy the level 30 hand equips. The +STR on those will outnumber the +3 attack form your hands. +4STR on AF that you seemingly refuse to quest is also another alternative.

Your attack may be high, but your attack does not make up for the sh*t in equips you have. Haste is your friend on MNK.(IMO) Brown Belt like TreasureHunterx just stated.

Quit being lazy, do your AF quests; farm the rare/ex kotes.. like every good player does in FFXI. Don't make excuses to gimp your equips, just because you have "Alot of attack" does not mean you are hot sh*t in exp ptys; or are too lazy to camp NMs. Let alone other things.

To Esca: Stfu dude, no matter how much you want to opinionize on something, noobs will not ever change their equips, and remain the way they are; and make pityful excuses as to why they are gimp. Don't give advise, because more likely people don't want it. There is my two cents worth.



Edited, May 30th 2007 6:08pm by Jarmarious
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#25 May 31 2007 at 3:52 AM Rating: Default
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I had hopes this thread wouldn't be derailed, well it lasted awhile before it was. Enigma Sky Ls thread, not a "Omg Esca made a comment thread"
#26 May 31 2007 at 8:48 AM Rating: Default
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Hmmm... I like the way Jarmarious does business, he is not one of those people who simply states "What is your problem!?" but has no interest or idea how to solve it and actually gives some advice about alternative ways to fix someone's apparent problem.

However...
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For someone being so poor as to not afford Okotes, you seemingly have SH...Mantle+1...etc...


If you have the audacity to call someone poor for not being able to afford something why not buy it for them?

The one and only time I called someone poor myself is when a WHM did not have MND rings, Raise III or Erase at an unreasonable level in my opinion. So I personally left the party briefly and bought them for the WHM. Problem solved. I got 4 levels in that party and dinged 75 SMN, I was ecstatic.

Anyways...

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It is how you've expressed your opinion to me that is the problem. Strike two.


Priceless

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I believe you threatened to ruin my reputation.


LOL...

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I have given you a thorough explanation to all of your complaints. I'm not going to act childish and say I won't respond because I will as long as you continue spewing out bold face lies.


Ohhh snap >_> Zicash just used Dedication skillz irl.






Edited, May 31st 2007 12:48pm by Vahnslet
#27 May 31 2007 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
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It's your 12$ playing FF, it's our 72$ you're wasting I tried to give nice advise -obviously wasn't wanted.


You're such a loser for saying that Esca.
#28Aurara, Posted: Jun 04 2007 at 6:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OK dude, you've pretty much pissed me off with your sh*tty job gear and such. For your sake, and everyones' sake, I highlightd the retarded parts of your gear. O.kotes are rare/ex now. Or you could do the BCNM. get come cross counters from the NM, r you could bcnm for them.Bastokian Sugligar...the HQ is better. But you should be using different legs. OMFG+33 attack!!!! WOW, thats not very much. And by the way, your anidiot for not getting brown belt. The 10 acc is NOT better than 8% haste and 5 STR. I would have booted your ass if it was me in that party and not esca. Anyone who knows me knows I'm a dick about people's gear sometimes. Get some better gear...listen to other people, and stop sucking.
#29 Jun 04 2007 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
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roflmfao this is a ls thread? btw nice spike wayrne
#30 Jun 04 2007 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
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LOL, Who's gear is that ? its abit Gimped even in comparison to my Mnk's gear at 55, If your happy that your gear looks that bad you keep smiling and we'll keep laughing!

Though +10 Acc from the belt department is probaly better than brown belts bit of haste as anything under 10% haste isnt worth even contemplating. Thats the only smart deiscion i seen.
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#31 Jun 04 2007 at 12:42 PM Rating: Default
as i said earlier 2 sniper/woodsman an a brown belt would be better set up. +8 haste +5 str 10 acc will out perform 7att 10 acc +2 agi
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Lets just end it guys, I had him /tell me today or the other day(forgot) to go @#%^ myself for even mentioning it on this thread, when in reality-he is the one that commented about it on this thread. I told him he deserved the flames he got.

So lets just leave him to his own little world and we'll all just keep playing.
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#33 Jun 04 2007 at 2:13 PM Rating: Default
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Though +10 Acc from the belt department is probaly better than brown belts bit of haste as anything under 10% haste isnt worth even contemplating. Thats the only smart deiscion i seen.

the 5 STR and 8% haste is better than 10 acc since he should be eating sushi and using focus/dodge/zerk in xp
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