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#52 Oct 18 2004 at 7:30 PM Rating: Good
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Si, una pagina para mi!

Y por favor...dame la perla? Quiero la!
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#53 Oct 19 2004 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
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A las 3:30am EST crei la LS UnionLatina. Por Latinos, para latinos. Bueno, para todos que quieren hablar espaņol y hacer cosas con los hispanos de Gilgamesh. Por favor me mandan un /t Etherael si quieren meterse. Hasta luego.
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Que bien, luego te mando un /t ever que onda

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#55 Oct 21 2004 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
Added more people.. so Bumpin the thread :D


Pero bueh.. Si quieren una perla de la LS UnionLatina.. Bienvenimos a cualquiera que pueda hablar completamente espaņol o parcfialmente. Pero tienen que tener algun conocimiento de espaņol.

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#56WayOfTheThief, Posted: Oct 23 2004 at 3:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Halarious but Im not mexican u ******* im cuban thankyou very much and u can add me or take me off this thread makes no sence how ever but it is nice to see some fellow latinos and latinas playing the game :)
#57 Oct 23 2004 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
Che boludo... Soy de argentina para tu informacion. Y ademas nadie se merece que les digas "**************
Tu reputacion apesta y yo no quiero a nadie alrededor mio que tenga una reputacion tan jodida.

Que tengas un buen dia.
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#58 Oct 24 2004 at 8:07 PM Rating: Decent
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/em trata de controlarse

OK, /sigh, estoy asi de explotar, "************* quien se cree que es para decir eso? no solo porque alguien sea de una nacionalidad,raza,religion o color distinto te da derecho para insultar a alguien y mucho menos a generalizando a gente que no conoces.

Quoting to the movie "the 25th hour"
"Slavery ended 137 years ago, move the F**k on "

sinceramente no ando de humor para meterme en rollos raciales y ese tipo de cosas, pero llamar a alguien por algun nombre y mas de ese tipo es ofensivo y muy degradante.
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#59 Oct 24 2004 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
GRacias.. pero es que ma sacan de quicio estas cosas.
Toda mi vida la vivi confrontando comentarios racistas, son daninos y yo no le desearia a nadie la experiencia que yo tuve.
Por eso no puedo quedarme sin hacer nada luego de algun comentario racista
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#60 Oct 24 2004 at 10:30 PM Rating: Default
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OK Lets Get this Straight That Post Was Meant For:


FFXINETBoshi Scholar Wrote:
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heh, and "spanish" but he had to leave do to problems paying for ffxi.

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I just dont like people automatically assume i cant pay for something because im hispanic and that comment "************* was Directed to him please dont not try and make something out of what u cannot Triella u will loose now u are getting on my bad side and i am honeslty trying to be nice and make a change dont make me regret changing my mind just a warning...
#61 Oct 24 2004 at 11:36 PM Rating: Decent
Hola a todos, Molimo saludando :)

La respuesta a: FFXINETBoshi "heh, and "spanish" but he had to leave do to problems paying for ffxi."

fue: WayOfTheThief "Halarious but Im not mexican u ******* im cuban thankyou very much and u can add me or take me off this thread makes no sence how ever but it is nice to see some fellow latinos and latinas playing the game :)
TOMA!!!"

Sinceramente no le veo sentido, no menciona nada de alguien ser mejicano, cubano, argentino ni de ninguna nacionalidad, ni la incapacidad de los latinos de pagar el servicio. Solo menciona las razones porque "Spanish" (supongo un jugador) tuvo que dejar de jugar. Es increible como hay personas que buscan razones para jugar la carta de racismo por cualquier comentario que pueda ser malinterpretado, definitivamente hay mucha gente que le gusta hacerse la victima, es lamentable. Mas impresionante aun es la poca capacidad de la gente de enfrentar un supuesto acto de racismo sin recurrir a insultos y comentarios de odio.

Felicitaciones por el LS, yo pertenezco a el y me parece muy entretenido, conversaciones fuera de lo normal para salir de lo cotidiano :)
#62 Oct 24 2004 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Por todos que no sabian, yo soy Mexicano. ^_^ Yo quiero mi nombre en la lista!
#63 Oct 25 2004 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
WayOfTheThief wrote:
OK Lets Get this Straight That Post Was Meant For:


FFXINETBoshi Scholar Wrote:
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heh, and "spanish" but he had to leave do to problems paying for ffxi.

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I just dont like people automatically assume i cant pay for something because im hispanic and that comment "************* was Directed to him please dont not try and make something out of what u cannot Triella u will loose now u are getting on my bad side and i am honeslty trying to be nice and make a change dont make me regret changing my mind just a warning...


Creo que haz perdido el punto principal.
Me disculpo por haber creido que fue dirijido a mi. Pero ese no es el punto principal por el cual me enoje. Me enoje porque tu haz dicho...

"[b]Halarious but Im not mexican u ********************

Por que agregar Mexican ahi?? Y por que relacionarlo con ********

No mal interpretes, yo me enoje por esa frase.
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#64 Oct 25 2004 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Wed Nov 17 23:16:20 2004 by oberonqa
#65 Oct 25 2004 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
I ignore people who are not worth discussing with cause I know they wont change their way of thinking.

I am discussing with Coniver.. Guess why? I havent added him to my Blist in game yet. I got annoyed more with him cause he is hispanic too. And.. the rest of what I think.. I think you make it up by what I said above.

I dont talk to people who I know wont even think about changing their minds.

EDIT: And in regards to this
"heh, and "spanish" but he had to leave do to problems paying for ffxi." by Boshi. I thought about it.. and I think "Spanish" could have been a Chara name. And as I dont have proof if he is or he is not, I havent replied to him at all. I dont think Boshi is Mexican.. just saying "Mexican ************* is what started my fuse. It is wrong to assume that any Mexican person is ********

Edited, Mon Oct 25 13:03:55 2004 by Nonomee
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#66 Oct 25 2004 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Wed Nov 17 23:16:47 2004 by oberonqa
#67 Oct 25 2004 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
oberonqa wrote:
So you are choosing to continue this "discussion" with Coniver aka WayOfTheThief. Should this "discussion" also include FFXINETBoshi?

More importantly, why even continue this "discussion"? Let FFXINETBoshi and Coniver aka WayOfTheThief do their apologizing. By continuing this "discussion", anyone who participates in it (including myself) are taking the Hispanic Community in Gilgamesh thread away from what it was intended and are instead leading it into a "Coniver is a <fill in the blank> because <fill in the blank>" thread.


This thread was intended for Hispanic People to know each other. Making a racist comment started all this.

As I said before... I am not defending Boshi.. If I had proof "Spanish" wasnt a chara name then I would have butchered down Boshi. But due to the fact in the lack of proof. I didnt.

And.. Think about it... Why is Coniver using "Mexican" to reply back to Boshi? Why not use "White Tr2ash"? Or something like that.

Coniver made a mistake in the words he used. Unless he apologizes in regards of that I am not leaving him alone.
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#68 Oct 25 2004 at 12:18 PM Rating: Default
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Edited, Wed Nov 17 23:17:09 2004 by oberonqa
#69 Oct 25 2004 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
@Oberonqa..

Read the post... How can Coniver claim what Boshi said is racist?

I said.. I would bashed/flamed/butchered if I had enough proof. There nothing saying there wasnt a Character named "Spanish" who might have quit due to financial problems.
How do you know "Spanish" is someone nonexistant?

Why do you think I didnt Reply to Boshi at all??????

Give me proof Spanish never existed and I'll make Boshi pays for making a racist remark. Until Then.. I am Leaving Boshi alone.
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#70 Oct 25 2004 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Nonomee, how would you feel if someone said something to you along the lines of "So how can you afford to pay for FFXI when you work in a slant-eye sweat shop making $1 US dollar a day?" You wouldn't like that very much. I know I wouldn't. Now let's say the person who said that was North Korean. I'm pretty sure you would respond with an equally racist and condescending remark as WayOfTheThief responded to a similiar remark from FFXINETBoshi. You would be lying if u said you wouldn't. Anyone, regardless of their moral values, would lash out at a racially condescending remark.


BTW.. forgot to answer this.
The answer is .. NO.
I been through Racism **** all my life. Race is something I wouldnt use as an insult nor a weapon of attack. I rather insult them with pure simple curse words.
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#71 Oct 25 2004 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Wed Nov 17 23:17:31 2004 by oberonqa
#72 Oct 25 2004 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
oberonqa wrote:
There isn't a character named "Spanish" in the game because the name would be a violation of the Playonline User Agreement.

Article 4: Ownership, Rights, and Restrictions

4.3: Restricted Material

As used in this agreement, "Restricted Material" means, collectivly:

a) Any copyrighted material, unless you have first obtained the copyright owners express written permission to use that material.

b) Any material that defames, abuses, or threatens others, or violates the privacy, intellectual property, or other priopretary rights of any third party.

c) Any material that violates any U.S. or foreign law or regulation, or that promotes illegial activity.

d) Any material that contains obscenity or images or content that exploit children under 18 years of age.

e) Any statements or images that are bigoted, hateful, or racially offensive or.

f) Any material published for commercial purposes, including without limitation, any offering of products or services for sale, any solicitation of advertisers or sponsers, or any display of sponsership information.

While the word "Spanish" is not bigoted, hateful, or racially offensive when used to name a language, it is considered bigoted and racially offensive when used to describe a person of hispanic origin. If such a character existed, a GM would have notified the player that the name "Spanish" is not appropriate under Article 4.3e and the player would have had to change the name on the spot.


Errr.. how do you call someone from Spain then? -_-

The nick name is still fully valid.
If you want proof I will create a whole new chara name Spanish.
Then.. Latinolover should also be considered inappropiate under Article 4.3e?

Spanish is not racial nor insultive. It is the name of the language we speak. How can you say Spanish is insultive to describe someone who is from hispanic origin??


Edit: Sorry Latinolover.. nothing against you.. :p It is just that your nick came sooooo in handy :D


Edited, Mon Oct 25 13:53:41 2004 by Nonomee
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#73 Oct 25 2004 at 1:07 PM Rating: Default
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Edited, Wed Nov 17 23:18:01 2004 by oberonqa
#74 Oct 25 2004 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
oberonqa wrote:
Like I said... the word "Spanish" is appropriate when used to name a language. When used to describe a people... it isn't so politically correct. I grew up in Southern California in a hispanic neighborhood and all my friends and their familites HATED being called "Spanish" and "Mexican" even though they spoke spanish and they were from Mexico. They preferred the term "Hispanic" or "Latino" because it was less racially offensive.

That is the same rationality that SE uses when people create character names. It isn't about what the individual playerfind racially offensive... but what other players as a whole find racially offensive.

And the name "Latinolover" isn't racially offensive or bigoted. Even the name "Spanishlover" wouldn't be considered racially offensive or bigoted because it could be interpreted as a lover of the Spanish language (or the racially offensive lover of Spanish people).

The only time "Spanish" could be used as a character name without being in violation of Article 4.3e is if the player is living in Spain. And even then, it's sort of a grey area because how are people in the game going to know where the player is from? It would be a grey area and certainly would end up falling upon the discretion of the GM.


Lets see.. do you promise to bow down to me and apologize if I prove you wrong by creating a Character Named "Spanish" and Playing him/her?
If you do.. I'll go and do it tonight when I get home. Heck.. I can afford the 1 extra buck I need to pay for that chara.
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#75 Oct 25 2004 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
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OMFG PLZ STOP!

I am from Venezuela, and you knwo whta people call me many ways, Latino, Indian ( long time ago heheh ), NA ( in play i am an NA ), spanish here, maracicho for me city.. etc etc etc. Who cares? i dont! and you know why? coz in latinoamerica we leave with out that presuare of racism in my country everyopne have a cousin black and a cousin blond so no a big deal.

Plz let this alone if you cant even understand how the people who is supouse to comunicate here think, i dont care what a lost soul who is afraid and insecure, if you ask me thats what people who come here to flame is..... So peace out people ^^
#76 Oct 25 2004 at 1:23 PM Rating: Default
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Edited, Wed Nov 17 23:18:23 2004 by oberonqa
#77 Oct 25 2004 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
oberonqa wrote:
Don't even bother - I'm through defending Coniver. My rating continues to plummet with each and every post and that disturbs me. **lol**

That said, I'm taking myself out of this conversation and am going to go back to working on my guide.


If you truly believe in what you said until now.. why wont you stand by it until the very end?
Is Karma Rating so fearfull that can make you stop your beliefs?

You brought the point up... and you are going away without even wanting to see the conclusion of it?

Should I try to enrage you by saying... Haha you are running away cause you are afraid you might be wrong?

Dont bring up arguments that you are not willing to take to an end. It is a waste of everyones Time.
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#78 Oct 25 2004 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
-=Fin=-
Ya no discuto mas.

Pero mi opinion no cambia.

Gracias y perdon Samza.. ~_~ Es que estas cosas realmente me sacan de quicio.
No me enojo facilmente, :p Me crees en eso no? Seņorito?

Hee hee.. pero bueh.. Los veo.. capaz.. hoy noche.
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#79 Oct 25 2004 at 1:58 PM Rating: Good
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Pienso que hay cosas mucho mas importantes como para perder el tiempo y energia con "gente" (uuuuuu) que no razona :) Soy Mexicano y la neta me vale un comino lo que diga el tipo ese :S
Hi Trie, no seas tan enojona ^^;;;;;;;;;; y para que carambas me quitaste de la lista? >< deseguro no te llego el /tell :(


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#80 Oct 25 2004 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
Agregado de vuelta Flecha :p
Pero bueh... asi son las cosas.

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#81 Oct 25 2004 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I am cuban, my char name is Varuka. I'm in Gainesville, FL. Just adding myself to the list. I just started playing 3 days ago and I love the game but I haven't felt the "community" presence. Most people just run away when I talk to them or answer: I dont understand English. Hope to meet some of you in game. Send me a message!

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#82WayOfTheThief, Posted: Oct 25 2004 at 2:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok ok im stoping here this will be my last post on this Thread about anything hispanic i apoligize to Boshi i didnt mean to use that term "************* i am deeply sorry to any mexican or any other hispanic person i may have offend during this time and what ever u choose to make out of my apolige i dont care just take it for what it is and stop making your lives worse by getting mad and it wasnt Boshi who got me ****** it was Triella because of here comment "Coniver is also Hispanic but i cant think of any reason to post his name /Think" if u dont wish to hear from me do not post my name anywhere u are not wishing to hear from me because its not gonna work like that u will not talk behide my back and get away with it i will find out and reply to your comment weither good or bad.
#83 Oct 25 2004 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
WayOfTheThief wrote:
ok ok im stoping here this will be my last post on this Thread about anything hispanic i apoligize to Boshi i didnt mean to use that term "************* i am deeply sorry to any mexican or any other hispanic person i may have offend during this time and what ever u choose to make out of my apolige i dont care just take it for what it is and stop making your lives worse by getting mad and it wasnt Boshi who got me ****** it was Triella because of here comment "Coniver is also Hispanic but i cant think of any reason to post his name /Think" if u dont wish to hear from me do not post my name anywhere u are not wishing to hear from me because its not gonna work like that u will not talk behide my back and get away with it i will find out and reply to your comment weither good or bad.


Si estuviera hablando a tus espaldas no pondria eso en un Forum publico. LOL... o es que no sabes lo que significa hablar a las espaldas de alguien? Ooo.. Ya se.. prefieres que haga /shout insultivos como los que haces tu?
No gracias.
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#84 Oct 25 2004 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
Xedeus wrote:
I am cuban, my char name is Varuka. I'm in Gainesville, FL. Just adding myself to the list. I just started playing 3 days ago and I love the game but I haven't felt the "community" presence. Most people just run away when I talk to them or answer: I dont understand English. Hope to meet some of you in game. Send me a message!

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#85 Oct 25 2004 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
Hasta luego gentes.. me voy... Tengo un midterm ahora. Voy a ver como me va. ~_~

Tengo miedo.. :x
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#86 Oct 27 2004 at 6:55 AM Rating: Good
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People should put up the Hispinic LS in Gilgamesh.

I wanna see how many.

Edit:

Opps...dint see page 2...wow..

anywats...

Nonome, you should make a Spanish LS listing^^
bah...watever...i'm soo tired...

::flop::

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    #87 Oct 27 2004 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
    Tenemos 1 ahora.. UnionLatina...
    Se que alguien me pidio una perla pero me olvide de quien era.. Perdon.. m(_ _)m

    Tengo una memoria impresionantemente mala. Asi que chiquillos si os olvido en algun momento..
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    #88 Nov 02 2004 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
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    Hola Trie, chin ya esta muriendo la thread ; ; Bueno, si alguien necesita alluda nomas echen un grito :s


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    #89 Nov 03 2004 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
    Felicitaciones~!
    Pero bueh, la verdad en este thread era yo hablando con yo algunas veces. No todo el mundo conoce sobre estos foros.

    A veces me pregunto por que sera que sigo jugando este juego?
    Y no encuentro otra respuesta que... Amigos, los quiero mucho me dais un monton de diversion cuando la necesito :)

    \(^^)/ un abrazo aaaaaassssiiiiiii de grande!
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    #90 Nov 04 2004 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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    Sip, hablas solita :x Oyes? que onda con el comentario de "Mana, who needs mana?" Si ayer estabas subiendo tu blk?? :P
    Acaso sera cierto el dicho que dice "Mas pronto cae un hablador que un cojo?" ;D
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    #91 Nov 04 2004 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
    YO nunca quise nivelar Mage jobs.. pero bueh.. no me queda otra porque necesito WHM.
    MNK/WHM es una cosa que se pide luego... /sigh
    Como dice la frase.. si no puedes vencerles.. uneteles >_<

    Voy a llevar a BLM a 18 o 20 y WHM por lo menos 37. No soy muy buena jugando con Mana Jobs.
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    #92 Nov 08 2004 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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    Esta padre jugar con clases que usen Magia, pero como sos Elvan, >.< Nimodo, a comprar lo mas caro para compensar por no tener tanta magia... :P
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    #93 Nov 08 2004 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
    Ummm...
    2 Astral Rings, 2 Onyx Earring y, ademas, Apple Pie.
    :) Termino teniendo tanto MP como un Tarutaru a mi nivel :p Pero yo tengo mas HP igual.

    XD
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    #94 Nov 08 2004 at 2:03 PM Rating: Good
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    Oh, yo te puedo vender unos astrals D: oh te caes con tu mano :P

    Edited, Mon Nov 8 14:04:39 2004 by Flechaxp
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    #95 Nov 08 2004 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
    Ah no.. me refiero a que ya los tengo. :)
    Luego de que termine de ahorrar para mis 2 snipers fue y empeze a juntar para Astrals. :p
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    Bueno, yo te puedo cocinar los apple pies ;)
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    #97 Nov 08 2004 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
    XD Perdon Flecha.. pero eso Dept ya lo tiene mi hermanito. :p

    Antes de nivelar algo yo me preparo por un buen rato :p
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    #98 Nov 08 2004 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
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    LOL, ta bien, no hay quien te gane :P
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    #99 Nov 08 2004 at 5:45 PM Rating: Decent
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    Ganarle a Triella ..... impossible to gauge... si le interesa el tema le baila uno tratando de ganarle, si tiene sus puntos ciegos pero son raros. Lo unico que no me a contestado es como hacer para que se le quite lo corriente al BLM de su static.
    #100 Nov 09 2004 at 4:35 PM Rating: Good
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    Sip, teneis razon, pero ala mejor tiene otras devilidades por hay XD
    Cambiando de tema.... alguien es de Bastok (o conoce a alguien) y le gustaria acer 7-1? Aparentemente no hay nadie interezado en este momento ; ; Asi que si cualquiera que guste, diga para organizar algo :)
    P.S.: 65lvl + >.<
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    Flecha~retired>>----->
    75RDM|75BLM, @190+ Merits~ (soloed 150+ :)
    Rank 10
    Meteora~retired >>----->
    54THF|27WAR
    LS:DigitalBoyz, LylaihsJuiceBar, and DH
    Gilgamesh
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    #101 Nov 10 2004 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
    Che Flecha.. hay otro foro de gilgamesh que puedes probar tambien..

    Um.. ve a Google y serchea por... Vn Gilgamesh
    Y va a aparecer. Ahi hay un poco mas de actividad que aqui.

    Espero que esto sirva :)
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    Triella MNK70/WAR35 <<Bye buh>> Coniver = Judis = jerk

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